Ron Paul

Are you implying he is nothing but hot air! :lol:
 
The rest of the field only WISHES they had enough regular joe supporters that actually gave a rat's ass enough to join together to do something like this.


I think it exemplifies America's true meaning.

Anyone care to place a wager on tomorrow's fundraising total?

I'm saying nothing less than 6.5 million, but i wouldn't at all be surprised if it tops 10.

There's double the amount of pledges this time, so automatically that places the estimate at around 9 million.

VIVA LA REVOLUCION Kathianne! I love ya!
 
Paulitics said:
The rest of the field only WISHES they had enough regular joe supporters that actually gave a rat's ass enough to join together to do something like this.


I think it exemplifies America's true meaning.

Anyone care to place a wager on tomorrow's fundraising total?

I'm saying nothing less than 6.5 million, but i wouldn't at all be surprised if it tops 10.

There's double the amount of pledges this time, so automatically that places the estimate at around 9 million.

VIVA LA REVOLUCION Kathianne! I love ya!
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Really. Can you imagine that kind of spontaneous support going toward... Fred Thompson?
 
William Joyce said:
Really. Can you imagine that kind of spontaneous support going toward... Fred Thompson?
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I can't even imagine a spontaneous FART going toward Fred Thompson.

No other candidates are offering any new ideas except Ron. The fact that so many people have come together to help spread those ideas, is a testament to the life that actually still exists in this country. And to think, I thought this country was all but gone less than a year ago.

Kathianne, thanks for the thread. I'll use this to update the fundraising total for the day.

So far, 2 MILLION.
 
I respect Ron Paul, I believe most of what Ron Paul says, Ron Paul would be the best thing to happen to America since I don't know when, hell, I may even vote for Ron Paul.

But you don't actually think Ron Paul will be more than a blip on the radar screen of American politics do you?
 
I do like the blimp/hot air analogy.
I have a quick question for Paul supporters. He advocates less government.
If that were to come to pass, who picks up the slack?
Less government would mean fewer agency/dept./bureau workers would mean less oversight of and enforcement of regulations affecting manufacturing/mining/lumbering/pharmaceuticals/memorials/parks/environment/veterans care/SS/Medicare/Caid, etc., would mean fewer grants/endowments/loans/bail outs/matching funds would mean less infrastructure maintenance/construction would mean less research into energy sources and medical break throughs, and on and on.
So who picks up the tab? The States? I already pay enough state sales tax and income tax and local taxes, thanks just the same.
 
trobinett said:
But you don't actually think Ron Paul will be more than a blip on the radar screen of American politics do you?
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Yeah, I do. Why shouldn't I? Because George Snuffaluffapuss says he won't? Because the US media is severely underreporting his actual support nationwide?

After the primaries are over, and the PEOPLE have all spoken, then we can start talking about who's going to be a mainstay, and who's going to be a radar blip.

If there's a huge snow storm on the day of the Iowa caucus, just for instance, you do realize that many people will stay home...but you also realize that probably not ONE Ron Paul supporter will miss the ballot, right?

This is just a hypothetical situation to ponder. I'm not saying it will take 'acts of god' to help RP's chances, but they certainly wouldn't hurt.

The only way you could think that he has no chance is if you take the scientific polls at their face value. And you probably have to realize how much of a potential RP voter demographic gets left out of those polls, based on how they're conducted, right?

Otherwise, he wins out against the opposition everytime.

Have some faith, brother!

Meemer said:
I do like the blimp/hot air analogy.
I have a quick question for Paul supporters. He advocates less government.
If that were to come to pass, who picks up the slack?
Less government would mean fewer agency/dept./bureau workers would mean less oversight of and enforcement of regulations affecting manufacturing/mining/lumbering/pharmaceuticals/memorials/parks/environment/veterans care/SS/Medicare/Caid, etc., would mean fewer grants/endowments/loans/bail outs/matching funds would mean less infrastructure maintenance/construction would mean less research into energy sources and medical break throughs, and on and on.
So who picks up the tab? The States? I already pay enough state sales tax and income tax and local taxes, thanks just the same.
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All you really just did was state your liberal position...quite ignorantly, I might add. You just argued FOR liberal government, and then ended by complaining about all the taxes you pay.

And like the government is doing a good job of regulating the pharmaceutical industry ANYWAY, much less the entitlement programs.
 
Wow, it's from those folks that believe in Alex Jones, Bilderberger, etc. Whoops, that would be the Ron Paul supporters:

http://politicalvindication.com/?p=1551

They Want To Kill Ron Paul

By Evrviglnt | December 15, 2007

There’s something new on the agenda of those in the “higher level” of the American establishment, says “Best-selling author and Bilderberg sleuth” Daniel Estulin:

Best-selling author and Bilderberg sleuth Daniel Estulin says he has received information from sources inside the U.S. intelligence community which suggests that people from the highest levels of the U.S. government are considering an assassination attempt against Congressman Ron Paul because they are threatened by his burgeoning popularity.

Estulin, whose information has unfortunately proven very accurate in the past, went public with the bombshell news during an appearance on The Alex Jones Show today.

“I am getting information from my sources that there are people involved from a higher level of the American establishment who are seriously considering - this has not been confirmed - but assassination is definitely on the agenda and I pray to God that this is not the case,” said Estulin.​

Who the source is that is feeding Mr. Estulin this shocking news he wonÂ’t tell us, but my sources tell me his man on the inside goes by the moniker Deep Nut. Daniel Estulin can be trusted because he was featured in an Alex Jones schlockumentary.

Will Ron Paul live long enough to reinstitute the gold standard? Will he live long enough to save Iran from American imperialism? What about that new investigation in 9/11 with his good friend Dennis Kucinich? Finally, if Ron Paul is laid low by a poison dart from a passing dirigible, will all of his followers strap on their Velcro sneakers and smoke themselves a ticket to the mothership? Only Alex Jones knowsÂ…
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Mr. Estulin, best selling author? check out the Wikki disclaimer: "Written like an ad". :eusa_angel:
 
Kathianne said:
Wow, it's from those folks that believe in Alex Jones, Bilderberger, etc. Whoops, that would be the Ron Paul supporters:

http://politicalvindication.com/?p=1551



Mr. Estulin, best selling author? check out the Wikki disclaimer: "Written like an ad". :eusa_angel:
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Kathianne, I'm having continuing trouble trying to figure out how you expect to discredit a person, because of the people that independently support that person. What does people who follow Alex Jones have to do with Ron Paul the person, and his message?

You keep TRYING...VERY HARD, I've seen. But you aren't really making a point.

The reason why 9/11 truthers gravitate towards RP, is because they believe that the Federal Reserve is the keystone to the establishment's control over America. And Ron just happens to be the only candidate willing to take on the Fed.

You can keep trying though. You're my favorite anti-Ron Paul message board poster to laugh at.

Almost up to 3 million. What's he spending it on, you ask? Why, white sheets & pointy caps, and gas chambers for all his supporters! I mean, what the hell do you THINK he's spending it on? Advertising, maybe? Getting his name out in spite of media opposition, maybe? Come on, use your head.
 
Paulitics said:
Kathianne, I'm having continuing trouble trying to figure out how you expect to discredit a person, because of the people that independently support that person. What does people who follow Alex Jones have to do with Ron Paul the person, and his message?

You keep TRYING...VERY HARD, I've seen. But you aren't really making a point.

The reason why 9/11 truthers gravitate towards RP, is because they believe that the Federal Reserve is the keystone to the establishment's control over America. And Ron just happens to be the only candidate willing to take on the Fed.

You can keep trying though. You're my favorite anti-Ron Paul message board poster to laugh at.

Almost up to 3 million. What's he spending it on, you ask? Why, white sheets & pointy caps, and gas chambers for all his supporters! I mean, what the hell do you THINK he's spending it on? Advertising, maybe? Getting his name out in spite of media opposition, maybe? Come on, use your head.
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Well I must say I laugh at all the whiners that can't keep up and are looking to Mr. Paul and Alex Jones to 'save them.'

BTW, you never did say thank you for my posting that link for the fundraising effort. Happy Boston Tea Party Day.

So, do you know just where he plans on spending these millions, so far he averages less than 50¢ on the dollar?
 
Kathianne said:
Well I must say I laugh at all the whiners that can't keep up and are looking to Mr. Paul and Alex Jones to 'save them.'
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At least it shows that people can still find a common ground to come together on these days, instead of looking for ways to stay divided.

BTW, you never did say thank you for my posting that link for the fundraising effort. Happy Boston Tea Party Day.
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You've never thanked me for anything, Kathianne. The tension between us most of the time is so thick you could cut it with a knife, and the contempt towards everything I say doesn't help. You've been a Paulitics-hater since I first joined here, and from what I've gathered, it's really only because I believe something that you do not, and we don't agree on politics. Like that's a reason not to like someone...

So, do you know just where he plans on spending these millions, so far he averages less than 50¢ on the dollar?
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I'm not sure what you mean by 50¢ on the dollar.
 
Paulitics said:
At least it shows that people can still find a common ground to come together on these days, instead of looking for ways to stay divided.


You've never thanked me for anything, Kathianne. The tension between us most of the time is so thick you could cut it with a knife, and the contempt towards everything I say doesn't help. You've been a Paulitics-hater since I first joined here, and from what I've gathered, it's really only because I believe something that you do not, and we don't agree on politics. Like that's a reason not to like someone...


I'm not sure what you mean by 50¢ on the dollar.
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He spends less than 50&cent of every dollar raised, at least so far. That is not the norm in politics, I'll give you that. It does raise questions though about what the entry into the race and massive fundraising is for.

As for hating 'you'? Hardly. I have very serious reservations regarding Ron Paul and his backers. I've made that clear. My personal problem is the very strong links with Alex Jones, Storm Front, and anti-semitism. I think you've noticed.
 
He doesn't care where the $$$ come from, but where is he spending it? What's the plan for the $$$ IF he doesn't win?

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Paulitics said:
Kathianne, I'm having continuing trouble trying to figure out how you expect to discredit a person, because of the people that independently support that person. What does people who follow Alex Jones have to do with Ron Paul the person, and his message?

You keep TRYING...VERY HARD, I've seen. But you aren't really making a point.

The reason why 9/11 truthers gravitate towards RP, is because they believe that the Federal Reserve is the keystone to the establishment's control over America. And Ron just happens to be the only candidate willing to take on the Fed.

You can keep trying though. You're my favorite anti-Ron Paul message board poster to laugh at.

Almost up to 3 million. What's he spending it on, you ask? Why, white sheets & pointy caps, and gas chambers for all his supporters! I mean, what the hell do you THINK he's spending it on? Advertising, maybe? Getting his name out in spite of media opposition, maybe? Come on, use your head.
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Up to nearly 3.5 million now! How is he going to spend it? Where is all this money coming from? I know, he nor you cares. It's not about who supports him. :rolleyes:
 
Kathianne said:
He doesn't care where the $$$ come from, but where is he spending it? What's the plan for the $$$ IF he doesn't win?

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KATHIANNE you are the poster child for media mind control the mainstream media has done everything it can to ignore theRon PAUL REVOLUTION BUT OF COURSE FOX NEWS jumps all over a business owners support of RP to try and taint his image but ignore the fact he has the largest donations from active militaryand Little minions like you jump right on the fox bandwagon and bahhh on que
 
Kathianne said:
Wow, it's from those folks that believe in Alex Jones, Bilderberger, etc. Whoops, that would be the Ron Paul supporters:

http://politicalvindication.com/?p=1551



Mr. Estulin, best selling author? check out the Wikki disclaimer: "Written like an ad". :eusa_angel:
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so your are so media manipulated you don't believe there is a bilderburg group ?
and a donation from stormfront to you equates STRONG ties and whats your problem with Alex Jones all he is doing is speaking the truth and standing firm
and what about top level Intel people like Bauer saying all evidence points to a inside job on 911 how does your mind work that you can not see FOX IS THAN HAPPY to report a donation from a legal brothel and make it news but men like this cant get 30 secs of air time



Robert Baer &#8211; Former CIA Case Officer, Specialist in the Middle East, Directorate of Operations. Awarded Career Intelligence Medal. 21-year CIA veteran. Best-selling author, screenwriter, and actor. Academy Award-winning Syriana was based on Baer's memoir See No Evil. Writer and on-camera presenter for Emmy Award-nominated documentary Cult of the Suicide Bomber. Author of two nonfiction books about CIA operations, See No Evil (2002) and Sleeping with the Devil (2004) and the novel Blow the House Down (2007).

Audio Interview 6/9/06: Thom Hartmann: "Are you of the opinion there was an aspect of 'inside job' to 9/11 within the U.S. government?"

Baer: "There is that possibility, the evidence points at it."

Hartmann: "And why is it not being investigated?"

Baer: "Why isn't the WMD story being investigated? Why hasn't anybody been held accountable for 9/11? We held people accountable after Pearl Harbor. Why has there been no change in command? Why have there been no political repercussions? Why has there been no -- any sort of exposure on this? It really makes you wonder." http://www.911blog.


Essay 1/12/02: "Did bin Laden act alone, through his own al-Qaida network, in launching the attacks? About that I'm far more certain and emphatic: no." http://books.guardian.co


Bio: http://www.concertideas.

Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng &#8211; Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:
"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." http://www.ae911truth.org


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 200 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." http://www.ae911truth.org/joinus.php


Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories, and was not hit by an airplane. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.


Bio: http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov


no wait let me guess they must be off ther meds orthey are not real or better yet they must anti semites with strong ties to ALEX JONES AND RON PAUL
 
Nearly $5m. So how is he planning on spending that money?
 
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