Rep Doggett responds to Texas Gov comparing flooding to a football game

[JimH52]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/poli...sonds-greg-abbott-texas-flood-football-digvid

Incredible! Abbott defends Texas decisions in the deadly flooding by comparing it to.a football game. As I recall, people do.not die in football games. What a crazy comparison.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Trying to save face, are we?

After all the insensitivity the left has shown in this regard? Incredible!

 

[OKTexas]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/poli...sonds-greg-abbott-texas-flood-football-digvid

Incredible! Abbott defends Texas decisions in the deadly flooding by comparing it to.a football game. As I recall, people do.not die in football games. What a crazy comparison.

That's the way you and CNN chose to spin it. His sports anemology was to a losing team, they try to figure out what went wrong and how they could do better in the future. The fact is Kerr county didn't have any early warning systems in place, even though that area is known a flash flood alley. Exactly who's to blame for that is TBD. In my book it's on the county, they should have funded the early warning systems themselves, if they couldn't get the funding elsewhere. The county makes a ton of money off tourism on that river. They have a responsibility to make sure the tourist are safe.

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[Picaro]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/poli...sonds-greg-abbott-texas-flood-football-digvid

Incredible! Abbott defends Texas decisions in the deadly flooding by comparing it to.a football game. As I recall, people do.not die in football games. What a crazy comparison.

Too late for you sleazy sociopaths to save face now, gimp.

 

[Picaro]

That's the way you and CNN chose to spin it. His sports anemology was to a losing team, they try to figure out what went wrong and how they could do better in the future. The fact is Kerr county didn't have any early warning systems in place, even though that area is known a flash flood alley. Exactly who's to blame for that is TBD. In my book it's on the county, they should have funded the early warning systems themselves, if they couldn't get the funding elsewhere. The county makes a ton of money off tourism on that river. They have a responsibility to make sure the tourist are safe.

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Where those cabins were was fairly high up from the water level they last saw, so it was easy to feel safe. Nobody expected a 37 foot rise. I doubt many of the dopers here even have an idea of how high 27 feet is. It's a cinch none of them would be out there searching, in any case.

 

[OKTexas]

Where those cabins were was fairly high up from the water level they last saw, so it was easy to feel safe. Nobody expected a 37 foot rise. I doubt many of the dopers here even have an idea of how high 27 feet is. It's a cinch none of them would be out there searching, in any case.

The Guadalupe catchment saw 22.5 inches of rain over 3 days, most of it on the evening and night of the 3rd. That's why flood warning sirens are so necessary. It might not have been raining that hard where many of the campers were. CO had a similar disaster in 1976 where almost 150 died.

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[TemplarKormac]

That's the way you and CNN chose to spin it. His sports anemology was to a losing team, they try to figure out what went wrong and how they could do better in the future. The fact is Kerr county didn't have any early warning systems in place, even though that area is known a flash flood alley. Exactly who's to blame for that is TBD. In my book it's on the county, they should have funded the early warning systems themselves, if they couldn't get the funding elsewhere. The county makes a ton of money off tourism on that river. They have a responsibility to make sure the tourist are safe.

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Absolutely nothing wrong with the analogy.

And yes, I still think complacency got the best of everyone there. It should be mandatory for people to leave flood-prone areas when there are similar forecasts issued. I mean, similar to mandatory evacuations for hurricane-prone areas. There's gotta be a way to stop this from happening again.

 

[Picaro]

The Guadalupe catchment saw 22.5 inches of rain over 3 days, most of it on the evening and night of the 3rd. That's why flood warning sirens are so necessary. It might not have been raining that hard where many of the campers were. CO had a similar disaster in 1976 where almost 150 died.

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They don't usually put sirens out in the middle of nowhere, they put them in urban areas. That is a red herring argument, and just a feel good gimmick after the fact. As I implied earlier, it will be another 40-50 years before it floods like that again there.

SAn Antonio had a big flood in the middle of June. It's not far from the Guadalupe either. They are common in Spring here in Texas all over the state. That's why the Scouts here teach their members to not camp in a flood plain, ever, in pretty much all the western states.

 

[Picaro]

Absolutely nothing wrong with the analogy.

And yes, I still think complacency got the best of everyone there. It should be mandatory for people to leave flood-prone areas when there are similar forecasts issued. I mean, similar to mandatory evacuations for hurricane-prone areas. There's gotta be a way to stop this from happening again.

People do get complacent when it's years and decades between these types of incidents. Looking at a map of the campground's area, there was plenty of land at 1,800 and 2,000 feet they could have been built on and still be within portage distance of the water with canoes or whatever. But, hindsight is just feel good brainstorming.

 

[OKTexas]

Absolutely nothing wrong with the analogy.

And yes, I still think complacency got the best of everyone there. It should be mandatory for people to leave flood-prone areas when there are similar forecasts issued. I mean, similar to mandatory evacuations for hurricane-prone areas. There's gotta be a way to stop this from happening again.

There is, early warning sirens much like tornado warning systems, also geo tagged cell phone alerts.

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[OKTexas]

They don't usually put sirens out in the middle of nowhere, they put them in urban areas. That is a red herring argument, and just a feel good gimmick after the fact. As I implied earlier, it will be another 40-50 years before it floods like that again there.

SAn Antonio had a big flood in the middle of June. It's not far from the Guadalupe either. They are common in Spring here in Texas all over the state. That's why the Scouts here teach their members to not camp in a flood plain, ever, in pretty much all the western states.

Yeah, a total red herring, that's why Kerr county applied for funding to put sirens in twice in the past, RIGHT? Also I've live in TX for 30 years, that area has major floods every 10 years or so.

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[Picaro]

Yeah, a total red herring, that's why Kerr county applied for funding to put sirens in twice in the past, RIGHT? Also I've live in TX for 30 years, that area has major floods every 10 years or so.

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Why do they need funding if everybody thought they were needed? They cost around $10 grand to $50 grand. My city bought one, and it was cheap. Why would a county have to ask the state for one? Hell, 20 people could swing that.

I've lived here all my life, and I've never heard any sirens out in the middle of nowhere, just in the urban areas. I've camped in all kinds of weather.

We have cell phones now, you can see the weather radar and weather reports for anywhere in the country from one now.

They have floods every 10 years, but not one where the water rises that high that fast. That is about three stories high in less than 45 minutes. Like I said, there are floods all over Texas every year. Few are like that.

 

[OKTexas]

Why do they need funding if everybody thought they were needed? They cost around $10 grand to $50 grand. My city bought one, and it was cheap. Why would a county have to ask the state for one? Hell, 20 people could swing that.

I've lived here all my life, and I've never heard any sirens out in the middle of nowhere, just in the urban areas. I've camped in all kinds of weather.

We have cell phones now, you can see the weather radar and weather reports for anywhere in the country from one now.

They have floods every 10 years, but not one where the water rises that high that fast. That is about three stories high in less than 45 minutes. Like I said, there are floods all over Texas every year. Few are like that.

Hard to check a phone when you're asleep. Not going to argue about it, you have your opinion, I have mine.

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[Picaro]

Hard to check a phone when you're asleep. Not going to argue about it, you have your opinion, I have mine.

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If they had really wanted sirens, they would have had some already. Just a fact. They didn't see a pressing need for any, obviously. Now it's too late, and just a feel good pacifier after the fact. It's the truth.

 

[Cellblock2429]

That's the way you and CNN chose to spin it. His sports anemology was to a losing team, they try to figure out what went wrong and how they could do better in the future. The fact is Kerr county didn't have any early warning systems in place, even though that area is known a flash flood alley. Exactly who's to blame for that is TBD. In my book it's on the county, they should have funded the early warning systems themselves, if they couldn't get the funding elsewhere. The county makes a ton of money off tourism on that river. They have a responsibility to make sure the tourist are safe.

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/----/ Expect a flood of lawsuits. (pun intended)

 

[JOSweetHeart]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/poli...sonds-greg-abbott-texas-flood-football-digvid

Incredible! Abbott defends Texas decisions in the deadly flooding by comparing it to.a football game. As I recall, people do.not die in football games. What a crazy comparison.

Check out the ER episode named Homecoming and then get back to me. It was the opening episode of season seven in the fall of 2000. A high school football player fights for his life at the end after getting severely injured during a game.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[SassyIrishLass]

After the left's use of children dying as a political football they lost the moral high gound

 

[Picaro]

Why do they need funding if everybody thought they were needed? They cost around $10 grand to $50 grand. My city bought one, and it was cheap. Why would a county have to ask the state for one? Hell, 20 people could swing that.

I've lived here all my life, and I've never heard any sirens out in the middle of nowhere, just in the urban areas. I've camped in all kinds of weather.

We have cell phones now, you can see the weather radar and weather reports for anywhere in the country from one now.

They have floods every 10 years, but not one where the water rises that high that fast. That is about three stories high in less than 45 minutes. Like I said, there are floods all over Texas every year. Few are like that.

An addendum: They had a beeper system in place, and yesterday's WSJ has a more detailed story on the whole thing, from the preps days before the storm to the warnings issued at 1:14 A.M to the camp's staff starting to evacuate before 4 A.M. At 4 A.M. one counselor was standing on the roof of a cabin with flood waters lapping over her feet. The water rose very very fast, and reactions were not able to keep up.

I have a flip phone that still goes off and issues warnings for various things, and the phone account I had on it was cancelled a year ago. So, the beeper thing works regardless.

 

[AveMarica]

The Guadalupe catchment saw 22.5 inches of rain over 3 days, most of it on the evening and night of the 3rd. That's why flood warning sirens are so necessary. It might not have been raining that hard where many of the campers were. CO had a similar disaster in 1976 where almost 150 died.

Indeed:

Texas county where campers died was denied money to boost warning systems

Twice, the Texas Division of Emergency Management turned down Kerr County's requests for money to improve flood warnings.

www.usatoday.com

"The Texas Division of Emergency Management denied Kerr County’s 2017 application, meeting minutes show. Kerr County applied again in 2018, when more federal funding became available after Hurricane Harvey. But meeting minutes indicate that Texas’ emergency authority again did not approve it. (...) “We’ve been trying to get a new Flood Warning System here,” Thomas, the county's emergency management coordinator, said at the November 2020 meeting. “We just haven’t been able to do it."

Meanwhile:

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www.texaspolicyresearch.com

"A recent report from the Washington Examiner reveals that Texas has spent over $221 million on the migrant busing program. The costs include transportation, meals, and security for the buses. This figure highlights the significant financial burden that the program places on Texas taxpayers, a concern that has been echoed by various state lawmakers and citizens. This massive expenditure is part of Texas’ broader effort, which includes deploying the Texas National Guard and increasing law enforcement presence along the border as part of Operation Lone Star. This initiative has already cost the state billions of dollars, reflecting the sheer scale and complexity of addressing the crisis at the state level. It is worth noting that nearly all of the costs of the busing program have been borne by Texas taxpayers, as only a small portion of slightly over $460 thousand had been donated from outside parties. Put another way, less than 1 percent was picked up by nontaxpayers."

So Texas spent over 200 million of taxpayer money for a political stunt, but just couldn't find a way to spend the 2.5 million needed for a new flood warning system in an area know for flooding. Bravo Governor Abbott, glad you put attention-whoring above the lives of children.

 

[Picaro]

AS I already said, they did have a warning system, via beepers, and if they wanted sirens they would have them. They didn't need the state to buy them, they're not real expensive. Wanting 'Everybody Else' to pay for it is a self-inflicted problem.

If you clowns don't like the money spent on rounding up and feeding your deliberate flooding of the country with your pet criminal illegal aliens, then step up and sponsor them or pay for their expenses yourselves.