Remember the Parents That Named Their Child Adolf?

[Asclepias]

Looks like they were members of a hate group in England that is actually "banned". This group was actively attempting to provoke a race war in the UK. They are going to prison. Hopefully someone renames the child.

Couple who named baby after Hitler found guilty of membership of neo-Nazi group - CNN

Convicted of being in a hate group? You mean like being a Muslim?

No like being a white nationalist.

What about BLM? Them too?

No one in BLM is a white nationalist. Sorry.

 

[pismoe]

Looks like they were members of a hate group in England that is actually "banned". This group was actively attempting to provoke a race war in the UK. They are going to prison. Hopefully someone renames the child.

Couple who named baby after Hitler found guilty of membership of neo-Nazi group - CNN

Except for the UK, how is it "illegal" to belong to an organization? We should follow their lead and brand the Black Panthers, Nation of Islam, Muslim Brotherhood, the SPLC, the Communist Party USA, and the Socialist Party as "hate groups", making them all illegal.

And The Proud Boys and the KKK and a bunch of others. I never heard the Communist Party, SPLC or Socialist Party engaged in hate speech, though.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------- you people are crazy , --- that being said , hate speech is simply a persons OPINION on Free Speech OldLady .

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's hilarious that people who want the government to dictate what parents can name their child have been convinced that they're actually against Fascism

Stupidest fuckers on the planet!

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Convincing and converting is better than banning.

True, but we're not doing so hot, are we?

As a race? No, generally speaking, our societies don't appear to be succeeding in spreading what is best for us. There are effective methods, however. This shows that the lack is of will.

How does one convince and convert racists without their participation?

How does one convince and convert racists by telling them their race is weak?

Who said you could convince or convert a racist by telling them their race is weak? All that would do is stick in the mind of the racist and make the racist even more angry and emotionally injured to the point that they would bring it up at every opportunity.

Don't flatter yourself Lumpy. I'm just using you as a tool to "decimate" your racist rhetoric to other folks here who may not be aware that you're a racist pig.

 

[Asclepias]

True, but we're not doing so hot, are we?

As a race? No, generally speaking, our societies don't appear to be succeeding in spreading what is best for us. There are effective methods, however. This shows that the lack is of will.

How does one convince and convert racists without their participation?

How does one convince and convert racists by telling them their race is weak?

Who said you could convince or convert a racist by telling them their race is weak? All that would do is stick in the mind of the racist and make the racist even more angry and emotionally injured to the point that they would bring it up at every opportunity.

Don't flatter yourself Lumpy. I'm just using you as a tool to "decimate" your racist rhetoric to other folks here who may not be aware that you're a racist pig.

You never came to the level where I would feel flattered because I emotionally injured you. Its just amusing to me that you remember the conversation even better than I do. I must have really touched a nerve.

 

[pismoe]

They don't have to say a single word, as their ideology speaks for them..

That's a cop out. Their "ideology" doesn't include killing millions. Just because you find their ideas hateful to you, doesn't make them hate organizations.

Either your memory of history has faded, or you're having difficulty looking at the big picture. Karl Marx's works didn't mention anything about slaughtering over a hundred million people. So you're saying today's Marxists are "kindlier, gentler Marxists" who have learned their lesson?

You're a sucker.

Go talk about your hatred of communism with someone who cares.

Ok, little Red. Thanks for showing the world your true colors.

You say that almost like its a bad thing. Its a good thing. Trust me. These violent animals should be in prison where the UK has put them.

--------------------------------- they shouldn't be in prison for their SPEECH or membership in a nonviolent org Ace .

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Looks like they were members of a hate group in England that is actually "banned". This group was actively attempting to provoke a race war in the UK. They are going to prison. Hopefully someone renames the child.

Couple who named baby after Hitler found guilty of membership of neo-Nazi group - CNN

I sure wish we could ban some of those assholes here. The Brits have sense.

Yeah, you would label everyone you disagree with as a hate group.

Now you hate the First Amendment along with the Second and if you love England so much why not move there, they will keep you safe from those you disagree with and they hate guns like you...

 

[Asclepias]

That's a cop out. Their "ideology" doesn't include killing millions. Just because you find their ideas hateful to you, doesn't make them hate organizations.

Either your memory of history has faded, or you're having difficulty looking at the big picture. Karl Marx's works didn't mention anything about slaughtering over a hundred million people. So you're saying today's Marxists are "kindlier, gentler Marxists" who have learned their lesson?

You're a sucker.

Go talk about your hatred of communism with someone who cares.

Ok, little Red. Thanks for showing the world your true colors.

You say that almost like its a bad thing. Its a good thing. Trust me. These violent animals should be in prison where the UK has put them.

--------------------------------- they shouldn't be in prison for their SPEECH or membership in a nonviolent org Ace .

They are in prison because they are part of a group that is trying to overthrow the government by starting a race war Ace.

 

[pismoe]

They weren't found guilty of trying to start a race riot

They were found to be members of a group that was trying to start a race riot. Same difference.

Not the same at all.

And that statement was naught but pure speculation

Yet they are still in prison despite your amazingly wrong beliefs.

No they are your and the UK's wrong beliefs.

Americans believe in freedom of speech and association

So why are people in the US put in prison for plotting to overthrow the government?

10 NAMED IN A PLOT TO OVERTHROW U.S.

------------------------------ Your link won't load for me but i'd guess that the 10 took actions to overthrow the USA Government .

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Raise your right hand if you believe the government should dictate acceptable children's names

 

[pismoe]

and after your article loaded up i see that they actually MURDERED people Ace .

 

[Asclepias]

They were found to be members of a group that was trying to start a race riot. Same difference.

Not the same at all.

And that statement was naught but pure speculation

Yet they are still in prison despite your amazingly wrong beliefs.

No they are your and the UK's wrong beliefs.

Americans believe in freedom of speech and association

So why are people in the US put in prison for plotting to overthrow the government?

10 NAMED IN A PLOT TO OVERTHROW U.S.

------------------------------ Your link won't load for me but i'd guess that the 10 took actions to overthrow the USA Government .

Thats typically what happens when your computer is infested with viruses from visiting right wing sites but yeah they took actions just like this couple took actions to join a group that is trying to overthrow the government of the UK.

 

[Asclepias]

and after your article loaded up i see that they actually MURDERED people Ace .

Yeah. Murdering people is also a crime.

 

[OldLady]

I sure wish we could ban some of those assholes here. The Brits have sense.

So you think people expressing their beliefs should be a crime because you don't agree with those beliefs? This is exactly why we have a First Amendment, to protect unpopular speech. As long as these people aren't directly harming other people, they should have every right to believe what they want, hateful or otherwise. Nobody should be locked up for simply having membership in a group, regardless of how reprehensible their ideals might be.

That's what makes you a great mod. I don't agree with that, though, in extreme cases. I think the US has taken its "rights" too far. We as citizens also have an inherent responsibility to follow the rules of a decent society. I do not see neo-Nazi types as being decent and I don't think any but neo-Nazi's do.

I don't think they are decent people either, but this is how the slippery slope starts. Back in the 50s, it was the far right persecuting the far left in this country for being Communist sympathizers, with Joe McCarthy at the helm. Now it's the far left in Britain persecuting the far right. We do NOT want to bring that here. The thought police is inconsistent with the ideals of a free society.

I know; I've thought long and hard about this issue, because a lot of people I respect have told me I've got the wrong end of the stick here. But explain how allowing groups such as those is supporting the ideal of freedom for those who are victimized by those groups?

 

[pismoe]

what violent acts did they do to try to start this race war Ace ??

 

[Toronado3800]

If you don’t defend people’s freedom of speech, they’ll come for you someday too.

These people are idiots, but the fact that a government is jailing people for their political beliefs is far more troubling.

I like your wording and agree.

Don't we just declare this or that "a terrorist organization" to make belonging to it illegal?

 

[Asclepias]

what violent acts did they do to try to start this race war Ace ??

You'd have to ask the people in the UK that arrested them. To me just being part of the group is a good enough reason to get arrested and shot for sedition.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Raise your right hand if you believe the government should dictate acceptable children's names

I am naming my son Lucifer and daughter Lilith...

I bet the only name that raises eyebrows is Lucifer while no one knows Lilith...

 

[Asclepias]

If you don’t defend people’s freedom of speech, they’ll come for you someday too.

These people are idiots, but the fact that a government is jailing people for their political beliefs is far more troubling.

I like your wording and agree.

Don't we just declare this or that "a terrorist organization" to make belonging to it illegal?

If your stated objective is to overthrow a government by violent means such as killing people of another race then you should do time in the pokey.

 

[pismoe]

and after your article loaded up i see that they actually MURDERED people Ace .

Yeah. Murdering people is also a crime.

---------------------- Murder , its the only crime that should get a person hanged or thrown in prison . Free speech shouldn't be a reason to be thrown in prison . That kinda law is thinking like a muslim if you draw a cartoon of 'mo' Ace .