Red State Tragedies

[Synthaholic]

Sure seem to be a lot of them. The Texas floods are still being dealt with by citizens. The devastation in Appalachia from last year's hurricane. Now this:

Mother, father and child killed by fallen tree in Tennessee heavy rains and flooding

An official says a mother, father and child were killed when a tree fell on their car as heavy rain and flooding hit Tennessee.

apnews.com

Watch: Car caught in whirlpool during deadly flooding in Chattanooga

A car and trash can were caught in a swirling whirlpool that formed on Interstate 24 in Chattanooga, Tennessee on Tuesday night.

www.foxweather.com

Is this just bad luck? God's wrath?

Or mismanagement of state resources and political priorities that don't put the safety of their citizens and the health of their land first?

Texas had many opportunities to mitigate damage from future potential floods, yet never did it. Why not? They were warned. And now they try to duck responsibility.

Contrast that with Blue New York: NYC was devastated from Superstorm Sandy, and have spent every day since improving the city's drainage and flood plans, and protecting their citizens.

https://www.nan.usace.army.mil/Media/News-Stories/Story-Article-View/Article/3201771/10-years-after-superstorm-sandy-whats-been-done-and-the-road-ahead/

 

[Missourian]

Sure seem to be a lot of them. The Texas floods are still being dealt with by citizens. The devastation in Appalachia from last year's hurricane. Now this:

Mother, father and child killed by fallen tree in Tennessee heavy rains and flooding

An official says a mother, father and child were killed when a tree fell on their car as heavy rain and flooding hit Tennessee.

apnews.com

Watch: Car caught in whirlpool during deadly flooding in Chattanooga

A car and trash can were caught in a swirling whirlpool that formed on Interstate 24 in Chattanooga, Tennessee on Tuesday night.

www.foxweather.com

Is this just bad luck? God's wrath?

Or mismanagement of state resources and political priorities that don't put the safety of their citizens and the health of their land first?

Texas had many opportunities to mitigate damage from future potential floods, yet never did it. Why not? They were warned. And now they try to duck responsibility.

Contrast that with Blue New York: NYC was devastated from Superstorm Sandy, and have spent every day since improving the city's drainage and flood plans, and protecting their citizens.

10 years after Superstorm Sandy: rebuilding, redesigning and rethinking New York City | 6sqft

What has really been accomplished–and is the city safer?

www.6sqft.com

Construction with no drainage there. See the whirlpool that car is caught in? That's where the drainage used to be. Six inches of rain is a very normal event. If the drainage wasn't compromised by the construction, there would be no issue.

 

[Synthaholic]

Construction with no drainage there. See the whirlpool that car is caught in? That's where the drainage used to be. Six inches of rain is a very normal event. If the drainage wasn't compromised by the construction, there would be no issue.

But Chattanooga looks wholly unprepared for 6 in of rain. It's not just this one scene.

 

[odanny]

Trump won't even support those who supported him.


The Department of Homeland Security is holding up more than $100 million in preapproved funds intended to help hurricane-battered North Carolina clean up storm damage and fix infrastructure still in disrepair almost a year after Helene hit the region, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post and officials familiar with the process.

On July 22, North Carolina Gov. Josh Stein sent a letter to DHS Secretary Kristi L. Noem urging her to rapidly release disaster recovery funds that the Federal Emergency Management Agency had already approved, which total about $115 million in public assistance grants. The state “faces nearly $60-billion in storm related damages,” the governor said, and while the federal government has already provided “considerable financial support … unfortunately much more help is needed to rebuild western North Carolina.”

 

[Missourian]

But Chattanooga looks wholly unprepared for 6 in of rain. It's not just this one scene.

You been to Chattanooga? It's in a valley created by the Tennessee River between Lookout Mountain, Signal Mountain and Missionary Ridge. Look at a USGS topographical map at the area between Missionary Ridge and the elevated ramps from I 75 and I 24 junction.

That's where the flooding was.

Ya see the problem?

You're in the low point of a man made bowl with an asphalt bottom and concrete sides that water is being funneled into down hill on both ends.

Without proper man made drainage, the water has no where to go.

 

[Synthaholic]

Trump won't even support those who supported him.


The Department of Homeland Security is holding up more than $100 million in preapproved funds intended to help hurricane-battered North Carolina clean up storm damage and fix infrastructure still in disrepair almost a year after Helene hit the region, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post and officials familiar with the process.

On July 22, North Carolina Gov. Josh Stein sent a letter to DHS Secretary Kristi L. Noem urging her to rapidly release disaster recovery funds that the Federal Emergency Management Agency had already approved, which total about $115 million in public assistance grants. The state “faces nearly $60-billion in storm related damages,” the governor said, and while the federal government has already provided “considerable financial support … unfortunately much more help is needed to rebuild western North Carolina.”

Yes, we all know what a fuckup Trump is, but I'm talking more about prevention after state officials have been warned multiple times that this area or that is prone to flooding. They don't use state resources, usually matched with Federal grants, to improve land use, or redirect dangerous water. They use it for political ends.

 

[Synthaholic]

You're in the low point of a man made bowl with an asphalt bottom and concrete sides that water is being funneled into down hill on both ends.

Without proper man made drainage, the water has no where to go.

You're making my point for me. Thank you.

You're describing a situation that could have been fixed decades ago.

You also are agreeing that they have not implemented proper man made drainage.

It's a good day.

 

[Missourian]

You're making my point for me. Thank you.

You're describing a situation that could have been fixed decades ago.

You also are agreeing that they have not implemented proper man made drainage.

It's a good day.

This is the construction. They are adding a third lane right now. The construction is what fouled up the drainage. Been on this stretch of highway literally a thousand times in every type of weather. Other than overcrowding and gridlock, never been a problem.

This flooding is caused by growing pains and being in a valley. No Grand conspiracy.

 

[Missourian]

Here's your links.

Chattanooga Road Construction at I-75/I-24 Interchange

Major road construction in Chattanooga at I-75/I-24 interchange will impact traffic flow. Widening of ramps scheduled for early August.

www.herechattanooga.com

https://www.tn.gov/tdot/projects/region-2/i-75-interchange-at-i-24-phase2.html

 

[Harry Dresden]

You're making my point for me. Thank you.

You're describing a situation that could have been fixed decades ago.

You also are agreeing that they have not implemented proper man made drainage.

It's a good day.

synth much of that type of shit even happens in mighty California...many a time....i guess that would be called a blue state tragedy....

 

[Synthaholic]

synth much of that type of shit even happens in mighty California...many a time....i guess that would be called a blue state tragedy....

Really? Show me a natural disaster in California where, when it was over, the state didn't do a damn thing to either mitigate or prevent it from happening again.

 

[Anathema]

What you’re seeing is a difference in priorities. These states expect their citizens to be more self-sufficient, aware of the potential dangers around them, and prepared to deal with those issues personally rather than relying on big brother government to show up instantly and fix things; whether it’s a home invasion, a natural disaster or mouths that need to be fed.

 

[Synthaholic]

Here's your links.

Chattanooga Road Construction at I-75/I-24 Interchange

Major road construction in Chattanooga at I-75/I-24 interchange will impact traffic flow. Widening of ramps scheduled for early August.

www.herechattanooga.com

https://www.tn.gov/tdot/projects/region-2/i-75-interchange-at-i-24-phase2.html

Like I said, it's not just that one section of interstate. Only 6 inches of rain have totally crippled this Tennessee city.

Flash flooding strikes Chattanooga area - WDEF

I-24 submerged under water between Moore and McBrien Roads Tuesday evening. It has since reopened. CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. (WDEF)- Over a half foot of rain fell across portions of the Chattanooga metropolitan area, causing widespread flash flooding. The hardest hit areas were Fort Oglethorpe, East...

www.wdef.com

 

[Synthaholic]

"Chattanooga, Tenn., is the most flood-prone city in the Tennessee Valley because the city is just upstream of the narrow gorge where the Tennessee River cuts through the Cumberland Mountains."

Multiple deadly floods and how much money have Republicans in the state capitol spent to lessen the effects on their citizens? Not much, from what I can find.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Really? Show me a natural disaster in California where, when it was over, the state didn't do a damn thing to either mitigate or prevent it from happening again.

mismanagement of state resources and political priorities that don't put the safety of their citizens and the health of their land first.....that attitude has prevailed many a time in California......and unless you live out here synth, or have for period of time, i wont argue with you on this because all you know about California is what you read....like so many others here...California has many of the same problems other states have including what the OP is about.....

 

[Synthaholic]

mismanagement of state resources and political priorities that don't put the safety of their citizens and the health of their land first.....that attitude has prevailed many a time in California......and unless you live out here synth, or have for period of time, i wont argue with you on this because all you know about California is what you read....like so many others here...California has many of the same problems other states have including what the OP is about.....

Doubletalk. Show me a natural disaster in California where they didn't try to do anything about it to prevent it from happening again.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Doubletalk. Show me a natural disaster in California where they didn't try to do anything about it to prevent it from happening again.

unless you live there synth you only know what you are told....do you live in California?....otherwise you are doing nothing but running your mouth....

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Really? Show me a natural disaster in California where, when it was over, the state didn't do a damn thing to either mitigate or prevent it from happening again.

Every fire, no matter how catastrophic.