Reagan Was A Shitty President

[boedicca]

It's not revisionist. It's fact. You can verify the unemployment and inflation statistics for yourself.

And as Doggie The Bubble Mod still lives in his parents' basement, it's clear he doesn't grok the importance to grown-ups of JOBS and avoiding hyper inflation.

 

[Modbert]

It's not revisionist. It's fact. You can verify the unemployment and inflation statistics for yourself.

And as Doggie The Bubble Mod still lives in his parents' basement, it's clear he doesn't grok the importance to grown-ups of JOBS and avoiding hyper inflation.

Do tell how Reagan ended that recession in 1982. I'll give you a hint, it was impossible this time around.

 

[boedicca]

Reagan cut taxes effective Jan 1, 1983 and dramatically decreased inflation via the Volcker Fed tightening.

Any theory that you have that doesn't involve these facts is just leftwing hyperbole.

 

[uscitizen]

lets see...reagan normalized relations with the big bad soviet union ....set the economic engine in motion which payed off in the dot com era.....and created the political environment for germany to be unified....

does make one wonder why obama admires the man though doesn't it....

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The Y2K fixes was most of the dot com bubble.
that and investors gambling wildly on dotcom stuff.

 

[Jeremy]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8_G-mlKxTY]YouTube - Tribute to Ronald Reagan[/ame]

 

[Modbert]

Reagan cut taxes effective Jan 1, 1983 and dramatically decreased inflation via the Volcker Fed tightening.

Any theory that you have that doesn't involve these facts is just leftwing hyperbole.

Actually, even the CBO at the time attributed the recovery to cutting those interest rates. Couldn't do that this time around, they were already at zero. Reagan's solution was a bandage on a gaping wound.

If tax cuts spurred the economy, then goodness knows we shouldn't of lost all those jobs under Bush.

Though that didn't stop Saint Ronnie from taking spending to new levels.

 

[FireFly]

He ruined manufacturing jobs. He sided with big corporations, while hurting the middle class.

Unions Kill Jobs.

Democrats shipped your jobs out of country to spread the wealth around the planet for social justice.

Obama thinks paying people not to work, giving them free food, healthcare & letting them stay in their foreclosed homes is stimulus. He is the handout president who punishes workers & rewards slackers. What a fucking idiot!

 

[boedicca]

lets see...reagan normalized relations with the big bad soviet union ....set the economic engine in motion which payed off in the dot com era.....and created the political environment for germany to be unified....

does make one wonder why obama admires the man though doesn't it....

'

The Y2K fixes was most of the dot com bubble.
that and investors gambling wildly on dotcom stuff.

That is incorrect. Y2K most certainly fueled a lot of infrastructure spending, but the impact of the dotcom bubble spread into other sectors as well (everyone wanted a dotcom story for their business) particularly telecom with tons of fiber wrapping around the planet.

 

[AllieBaba]

"Critics of Reagan's policies continue to point to large budget deficits in the 1980s as the price of his success. These troubled him as well. But given the magnitude of Reagan's accomplishments in stopping inflation and bringing about the collapse of the Soviet Union, I don't think his failure in this area should be held against him.

As impressive as Reagan's tangible accomplishments in office were, his less tangible accomplishments were also significant. Together with Margaret Thatcher, he restored the idea that private individuals and businesses were the true sources of prosperity, not government. They gave legitimacy to free markets, open trade and sound money, in contrast to socialism, planning and price controls, which had dominated economic policy throughout the world for more than half a century. The renaissance of growth and freedom in Eastern Europe and the Third World owes much to Reagan's and Thatcher's discrediting of the socialist idea and their tireless defense of economic freedom. "

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2004/06/14/editorial3.html

 

[Modbert]

"Critics of Reagan's policies continue to point to large budget deficits in the 1980s as the price of his success. These troubled him as well. But given the magnitude of Reagan's accomplishments in stopping inflation and bringing about the collapse of the Soviet Union, I don't think his failure in this area should be held against him.

As impressive as Reagan's tangible accomplishments in office were, his less tangible accomplishments were also significant. Together with Margaret Thatcher, he restored the idea that private individuals and businesses were the true sources of prosperity, not government. They gave legitimacy to free markets, open trade and sound money, in contrast to socialism, planning and price controls, which had dominated economic policy throughout the world for more than half a century. The renaissance of growth and freedom in Eastern Europe and the Third World owes much to Reagan's and Thatcher's discrediting of the socialist idea and their tireless defense of economic freedom. "

Reagan's economic accomplishments were invaluable - Jacksonville Business Journal

Are you just going to keep spamming the thread with this?

Yawn.

 

[AllieBaba]

I know. Facts suck!

 

[Modbert]

Facts suck!

Well that explains why you're avoiding any of them in this thread.

 

[Jeremy]

 

[manu1959]

lets see...reagan normalized relations with the big bad soviet union ....set the economic engine in motion which payed off in the dot com era.....and created the political environment for germany to be unified....

does make one wonder why obama admires the man though doesn't it....

'

The Y2K fixes was most of the dot com bubble.
that and investors gambling wildly on dotcom stuff.

didn't clinton and al take credit for all that...and blame the crash on someone else....

 

[Middleman]

I didn't care for Reagan. Good points there. He seemed to appeal to Americans' greed and consumerist tendencies , for one thing. He capitalized on the religious sentiments of people to really recklessly further the greedy industrialists desires. And he said he was Christian but he and his wife were also into the occult actually

He made some off the wall comments about the environment that I disagreed with, such as "You've seen one tree, you've seen them all". He was no environmentalist.

I also disliked his whole movie star persona. It seemed shallow to me. I didn't like his silky, smooth manner.

 

[uscitizen]

lets see...reagan normalized relations with the big bad soviet union ....set the economic engine in motion which payed off in the dot com era.....and created the political environment for germany to be unified....

does make one wonder why obama admires the man though doesn't it....

'

The Y2K fixes was most of the dot com bubble.
that and investors gambling wildly on dotcom stuff.

That is incorrect. Y2K most certainly fueled a lot of infrastructure spending, but the impact of the dotcom bubble spread into other sectors as well (everyone wanted a dotcom story for their business) particularly telecom with tons of fiber wrapping around the planet.

Actually the fiber was not part of it. That mostly came later.
I know I used to work for a fiber company and worked most of my career in Telecom.
I was in the IT side of telecom during the dot com boom.

 

[uscitizen]

lets see...reagan normalized relations with the big bad soviet union ....set the economic engine in motion which payed off in the dot com era.....and created the political environment for germany to be unified....

does make one wonder why obama admires the man though doesn't it....

'

The Y2K fixes was most of the dot com bubble.
that and investors gambling wildly on dotcom stuff.

didn't clinton and al take credit for all that...and blame the crash on someone else....

Of course he did, he is a politician isn't he?

 

[manu1959]

I didn't care for Reagan. Good points there. He seemed to appeal to Americans' greed and consumerist tendencies , for one thing. He capitalized on the religious sentiments of people to really recklessly further the greedy industrialists desires. And he said he was Christian but he and his wife were also into the occult actually

He made some off the wall comments about the environment that I disagreed with, such as "You've seen one tree, you've seen them all". He was no environmentalist.

I also disliked his whole movie star persona. It seemed shallow to me. I didn't like his silky, smooth manner.

that sounds a lot like someone else...........

 

[Middleman]

I didn't care for Reagan. Good points there. He seemed to appeal to Americans' greed and consumerist tendencies , for one thing. He capitalized on the religious sentiments of people to really recklessly further the greedy industrialists desires. And he said he was Christian but he and his wife were also into the occult actually

He made some off the wall comments about the environment that I disagreed with, such as "You've seen one tree, you've seen them all". He was no environmentalist.

I also disliked his whole movie star persona. It seemed shallow to me. I didn't like his silky, smooth manner.

that sounds a lot like someone else...........

I probably don't care for that person either.

 

[Madeline]

Allie, be nice to hear what you think rather than right wingnut blogosphere copypasta.