Do you really believe Jews shouldn't be in Israel because G-d displaced us?
Ok, now I get your point of view.
..I don't debate this issue with [any] who [I believe] know nothing about the history of the region.
Then why are you doing it?
As for what to believe, why would I ever take your slant as a credible view of history?
It really is horrifying that they allow an ignorant child like you to teach.
Where are you getting your misinformation? or is it a natural bent to make up facts when you have none?
...Jews didn't toss the pals. They were always there.
If the "pals" (cute racist term there, kiddo) were
ALWAYS there, then that gives them a right to their space. Those that chose to sell land, at a fair price, in fair negotiations (that means
NOT at gun or rocket point) are one thing.... bulldozing homes and orchards is not. It is the action of terrorist thieves.
As for who tossed whom, it was certain Israelis, as not all Jews everywhere agree with, or want what is being done, in fact, not even ALL Israelis want what is being done........... Like ALL Americans do not walk lockstep with Bush......
www.nkusa.org/
www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/zanda.cfm http://www.realnews247.com/spec_rpt_jews_against_zionism.htm
Then I guess now he doesn't much like the people who call themselves palestinians. (and, no, I don't believe that...it's about as stupid as what you wrote, though, so I figured you'd understand it).
Can't you control your babbling?
But you might want to start with the Balfour Declaration. I love how imbeciles like you love international law except when it doesn't displace jews.
Where have I ever said I love "international law?" On what are you basing your presumptions? Making things up because it suits you?
As for the Balfour, and what I think of that whole mess, and the after the war thing, Brits have a very long history of being anti-Judaist, but leading up to the WWs it began as a cousin fight, Brits against the Germans (Prussians) and the whatever, because the royal Brits were/are Germans, as to ethnicity.... Back to George I. And now, some of them still seem to like Nazi get-up!
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/05/01/Royal_Nazis.html
My personal opinion of the situation - the enabling of a Hilter by the Brits and by the US - people here, in government, knew exactly what was happening there, and those not in favor were of the "not our problem" or "have no opinion" schools. However, The US and its government being the chickenshits that we were, like depression era parents spoiling and enabling boomer children, allowed a guilting that just won't quit. Why? Because they knew what they did was wrong, and they knew that they had compounded their comtemptible behavior by believing, along with the Brits, that shipping the Jewish survivors to Palestine would bring on a series of massacres by the Arabs that would solve any Brit/US "Jewish" problems, especially if they were able to spread enough hate and discontent from the sidelines.
It didn't happen, and the primary reason that it didn't really come off as planned is that for the most part, except for CHRISTIAN meddling in the Middle East, Jews and Arabs/Muslims managed somehow to live together before and up to 1948.
I sincerely believe that so-called Christian Nations are responsible for most of what is wrong in the world. The Middle East misery escalated exponentially with US and Northern European meddling. First they enabled Hitler, then they fomented the current crap!
As for any of the rest, for ME, I personally do not find it necessary to clear my opinions with any group to comply with whatever their idea of politically correct is. You may find, after a while of reading what I post, that I am actually an equal opportunity disrespector of
all religions. I despise most, however, those that mask a political movement as religion, as the Zionists do, whether Christian or Jewish, are at the top of my comtempt list.
It would have been a total non issue if the US had opened the doors before Hitler, but the fact that they didn't, is not my fault, as I was not alive yet. Just as whites are anti-reparations for blacks, I am anti-reparations for Jews, especially in the context of the massive cash payments to Israel, a big welfare/guilt thing, not to mention weapons, and also forgiving spies and all the other bullshit, including but not limited to
Sex Slavery - The Growing Trade in Israel,
Israelis at center of ecstasy drug trade - Haaretz - Israel News,
The Jewish Quarterly (all about the porn industry...)
The Holocaust, incidentally, was
also about 12 million non-Jews who were murdered in various ways, in the camps and other places and the war was also about 40,000,000+ others who died, and the self-chosen do not own it, or all the pain, or all the bad memories. Where I think that what was done was horrible and disgusting, the suffering was just as great for the others whom Hitler, the Japanese, et al targeted, not just the Jews.
As for those Jewish people who were sent to the camps, you need to start the conversation with a big thank you to the Judenrat that were the facilitators, the enablers, who figured they could cover their own asses by telling others not to fight back.
I see no reason at all why I, along with many others, should be held hostage for what I didn't do, and I am totally tired of the self-serving whine for continous attention over what cannot now be changed. What can be changed is the attitudes of those who demand eternal mea culpas even of those not guilty.
As for Wright, kiddo, you are more of a racist, and you have the advantage over blacks, as you can change a name, and if looks are an issue, plastic surgery takes care of it. Blacks on the other hand cannot shed their skin, Michael Jackson IS an exception!
You might do yourself some good in looking into some groups that want peace and are actually working to make it so:
Additionel Jewish-Palestinian Reconciliation Peace Links
Oh, and I will think others have it less hard when I see as many blacks and women in government power and media control, in proportion to their numbers in the US population as there are Jews in proportion to their percentage of US population, in those areas. You want fair, then we can do it
BY THE NUMBERS!
