Zone1 Racial Discrepancies in Crime and Victimization

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We regularly have discussions about crime rates and victimization rates, comparing those for White people and the descendants of African slaves in the U.S.

In The Spectator World today, Heather McDonald has compiled some relevant figures that may be enlightening to those with an interest in the matter. They are not pretty.

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In Washington, DC, from 2019 to the end of 2020, black people made up nearly 97 percent of homicide suspects, according to the National Institute for Criminal Justice Reform. White people accounted for 0.8 percent of homicide suspects. Black people are 46 percent of the DC population, white people 38 percent. The black homicide commission rate is roughly 99 times higher than the equivalent for white people. In Los Angeles in 2022, black people were more than 21 times as likely to be suspected of a violent crime as their white counterparts. They were nearly 37 times as likely to be the suspect in a robbery. Black New Yorkers were 46 times as likely to commit a shooting as white ones in 2023.

Data on the race of crime suspects is becoming harder and harder to obtain; at best, most departments provide only victim race data. But victim race is a decent proxy for suspect race, since, as the left likes to say (without understanding the implication), most crime is intraracial. (The predominance of intraracial crime does not mean that interracial crime is not also racially disproportionate. The Zarutska killing was typical. A black person is roughly 35 times as likely to commit an act of violence against a white person as the other way around, according to the National Academy of Sciences.)

From 2000 to 2019, nationally, black men between the ages of 15 and 24 died of homicide at a rate of 75 per 100,000, according to a study in JAMA Network Open. The white male homicide victimization rate in that age group was a little over four per 100,000, making the black homicide victimization rate 18 times greater.

A CDC study found that black people between the ages of ten and 24 died of gun homicide at nearly 25 times the rate of white people in that age cohort from 2020 to 2021. A JAMA Network Open research letter published in March 2023 found that black juveniles were shot at 100 times the rate of white juveniles in LA, New York, Chicago and Philadelphia in the post-George Floyd era.

Who is shooting and killing these black victims? Overwhelmingly, black perpetrators. Disparities in criminal victimization rates mirror disparities in criminal offending rates. [End of quote]

As a result of these facts, any campaign to fight violent urban crime will seem to be directed at Blacks, an appearance that race hustlers, White and Black alike, pounce on to peddle their nonsense about "endemic/systemic racism." One of our correspondents here constantly claims that White people commit more crimes than Black people - a factoid that he believes excuses the racial differences cited above. It doesn't.

Are Americans finally starting to catch on?
 
We regularly have discussions about crime rates and victimization rates, comparing those for White people and the descendants of African slaves in the U.S.

In The Spectator World today, Heather McDonald has compiled some relevant figures that may be enlightening to those with an interest in the matter. They are not pretty.

[Quote]

In Washington, DC, from 2019 to the end of 2020, black people made up nearly 97 percent of homicide suspects, according to the National Institute for Criminal Justice Reform. White people accounted for 0.8 percent of homicide suspects. Black people are 46 percent of the DC population, white people 38 percent. The black homicide commission rate is roughly 99 times higher than the equivalent for white people. In Los Angeles in 2022, black people were more than 21 times as likely to be suspected of a violent crime as their white counterparts. They were nearly 37 times as likely to be the suspect in a robbery. Black New Yorkers were 46 times as likely to commit a shooting as white ones in 2023.

Data on the race of crime suspects is becoming harder and harder to obtain; at best, most departments provide only victim race data. But victim race is a decent proxy for suspect race, since, as the left likes to say (without understanding the implication), most crime is intraracial. (The predominance of intraracial crime does not mean that interracial crime is not also racially disproportionate. The Zarutska killing was typical. A black person is roughly 35 times as likely to commit an act of violence against a white person as the other way around, according to the National Academy of Sciences.)

From 2000 to 2019, nationally, black men between the ages of 15 and 24 died of homicide at a rate of 75 per 100,000, according to a study in JAMA Network Open. The white male homicide victimization rate in that age group was a little over four per 100,000, making the black homicide victimization rate 18 times greater.

A CDC study found that black people between the ages of ten and 24 died of gun homicide at nearly 25 times the rate of white people in that age cohort from 2020 to 2021. A JAMA Network Open research letter published in March 2023 found that black juveniles were shot at 100 times the rate of white juveniles in LA, New York, Chicago and Philadelphia in the post-George Floyd era.

Who is shooting and killing these black victims? Overwhelmingly, black perpetrators. Disparities in criminal victimization rates mirror disparities in criminal offending rates. [End of quote]

As a result of these facts, any campaign to fight violent urban crime will seem to be directed at Blacks, an appearance that race hustlers, White and Black alike, pounce on to peddle their nonsense about "endemic/systemic racism." One of our correspondents here constantly claims that White people commit more crimes than Black people - a factoid that he believes excuses the racial differences cited above. It doesn't.

Are Americans finally starting to catch on?
Jasmine Crockett said trying to ramp down on crime is racist.
 
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

The Democrat party is heavily invested in creating a world as they want it to be instead of the world that actually exists so fights tooth and nails to preserve the fantasy.
 
It is the logical fallacy of "disparate impact," writ large. Any initiative the disproportionately impacts a group of POC's is, by definition, racist. It's as simple as that. Therefore, crackdowns on crime are racist.
 
It is the logical fallacy of "disparate impact," writ large. Any initiative the disproportionately impacts a group of POC's is, by definition, racist. It's as simple as that. Therefore, crackdowns on crime are racist.
I remember when the Metro in DC wanted to reduce its late-night hours since the cars were almost totally empty by 11:00 pm. The leftists said that since blacks rode the subway more than whites, reducing the hours was “racist.”
 
We regularly have discussions about crime rates and victimization rates, comparing those for White people and the descendants of African slaves in the U.S.

In The Spectator World today, Heather McDonald has compiled some relevant figures that may be enlightening to those with an interest in the matter. They are not pretty.

[Quote]

In Washington, DC, from 2019 to the end of 2020, black people made up nearly 97 percent of homicide suspects, according to the National Institute for Criminal Justice Reform. White people accounted for 0.8 percent of homicide suspects. Black people are 46 percent of the DC population, white people 38 percent. The black homicide commission rate is roughly 99 times higher than the equivalent for white people. In Los Angeles in 2022, black people were more than 21 times as likely to be suspected of a violent crime as their white counterparts. They were nearly 37 times as likely to be the suspect in a robbery. Black New Yorkers were 46 times as likely to commit a shooting as white ones in 2023.

Data on the race of crime suspects is becoming harder and harder to obtain; at best, most departments provide only victim race data. But victim race is a decent proxy for suspect race, since, as the left likes to say (without understanding the implication), most crime is intraracial. (The predominance of intraracial crime does not mean that interracial crime is not also racially disproportionate. The Zarutska killing was typical. A black person is roughly 35 times as likely to commit an act of violence against a white person as the other way around, according to the National Academy of Sciences.)

From 2000 to 2019, nationally, black men between the ages of 15 and 24 died of homicide at a rate of 75 per 100,000, according to a study in JAMA Network Open. The white male homicide victimization rate in that age group was a little over four per 100,000, making the black homicide victimization rate 18 times greater.

A CDC study found that black people between the ages of ten and 24 died of gun homicide at nearly 25 times the rate of white people in that age cohort from 2020 to 2021. A JAMA Network Open research letter published in March 2023 found that black juveniles were shot at 100 times the rate of white juveniles in LA, New York, Chicago and Philadelphia in the post-George Floyd era.

Who is shooting and killing these black victims? Overwhelmingly, black perpetrators. Disparities in criminal victimization rates mirror disparities in criminal offending rates. [End of quote]

As a result of these facts, any campaign to fight violent urban crime will seem to be directed at Blacks, an appearance that race hustlers, White and Black alike, pounce on to peddle their nonsense about "endemic/systemic racism." One of our correspondents here constantly claims that White people commit more crimes than Black people - a factoid that he believes excuses the racial differences cited above. It doesn't.

Are Americans finally starting to catch on?
I’m not Nick picking, but wanted to say that we all descend from slaves whether white or black ..at some point one of our ancestors was a slave at some point.

To the threads point there are problems that white and blacks have to confront. Young Black men are over represented when it comes to inner-city violence, gangs, robberies muggings. Young white men are over represented when it comes to mass school shootings.
 
We live in a white supremacist society. We don't need to jump through logical hoops about crime stats to come to that conclusion. If you don't like being accused of racism, stop being racist. Trust is earned and re-earned.
 
We live in a white supremacist society. We don't need to jump through logical hoops about crime stats to come to that conclusion. If you don't like being accused of racism, stop being racist. Trust is earned and re-earned.
What? We live in a civilized society with a large group of racial segregationists upsetting the balance.
 
We live in a white supremacist society. We don't need to jump through logical hoops about crime stats to come to that conclusion. If you don't like being accused of racism, stop being racist. Trust is earned and re-earned.
Lying about why blacks are arrested and tried is racist not the act of arresting criminals.
 
Statistically, the upper half of American society are more productive than those of other countries. Unfortunately, the lower half are not.
 
Lying about why blacks are arrested and tried is racist not the act of arresting criminals.
We live in a racist, white supremacist society. Therefore, any policy may have racialist outcomes. Because the people implementing and supervising them are racist. I don't blame any black person who is cynical and mistrusting of the society, and especially in very politically charged avenues like policing. Mistrust but verify that mistrust.
 
We live in a racist, white supremacist society. Therefore, any policy may have racialist outcomes. Because the people implementing and supervising them are racist. I don't blame any black person who is cynical and mistrusting of the society, and especially in very politically charged avenues like policing. Mistrust but verify that mistrust.
Great satire!!
 
Nah. We've always lived in a white supremacist society. You just don't like people trying to change and combat that status quo.
You sound like a neo-bigot looking for an excuse.
Darwinistic survival lead a superior culture to dominance. Since then, anyone and everyone have been afforded the opportunity to partake in that progress and for multiple generations.
Creepy people try to apply current circumstances to previous eras in order to demonize that foundational culture. All for the purpose of implementing Marxist control.
You’re just another Marxist dupe.
 
You sound like a neo-bigot looking for an excuse.
Darwinistic survival lead a superior culture to dominance. Since then, anyone and everyone have been afforded the opportunity to partake in that progress and for multiple generations.
Creepy people try to apply current circumstances to previous eras in order to demonize that foundational culture. All for the purpose of implementing Marxist control.
You’re just another Marxist dupe.
Then you agree that we live in a white supremacist society.
 
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I remember when the Metro in DC wanted to reduce its late-night hours since the cars were almost totally empty by 11:00 pm. The leftists said that since blacks rode the subway more than whites, reducing the hours was “racist.”
The city suddenly wanted to crap on most of 2nd shift workforce & you don't think they should be upset? Most shift workers are forced into the standard 7-3, 3-11 & 11-7 shifts. How do you think all these workers that have to stay until 11 are going to run over a mile to catch a train that stopped at 11? Most rides on mass transit takes over an hour to get you to your destination. Mass transit has to run full route for at least 1.5 to 2 hours after most 2nd shift work ends. God forbid anyone might need to have a bowel movement before they have to run long & hard for the last train. Most of the 2nd shift workforce would suddenly have to buy cars causing prices to explode, because the surge in cab fare for them all would eat up their entire check.

Now you painted the entire left that stood for these workers as racist just because a few race hustlers said it was racist.
 
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