multivita-man
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He was coerced into a plea deal without all of the evidence being handed over.
Bulllllll shit. He wasn't coerced; the evidence was overwhelming. Deal with it.
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He was coerced into a plea deal without all of the evidence being handed over.
Did they catch Mr. horn hat goring a capitol policeman?
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Im sure the DoJ would love to prosecute Chansley for all six offenses rather than the one he pled guilty too.He was coerced into a plea deal without all of the evidence being handed over. His lawyer now has it. You have no idea what the court will do.
Obviously not since the video the J6 committee hid disputes itBulllllll shit. He wasn't coerced; the evidence was overwhelming. Deal with it.
So that’s the threat the DOJ should put forth? Sit down and shut up about exculpatory evidence we hid or we will throw the book at you?Im sure the DoJ would love to prosecute Chansley for all six offenses rather than the one he pled guilty too.
If Chansley plays his cards right, he can get a significantly longer sentence and be an even bigger victim!
Well, if Chansley thinks it’s so exculpatory then he won’t have to worry about it since he can now prove he’s innocent.So that’s the threat the DOJ should put forth? Sit down and shut up about exculpatory evidence we hid or we will throw the book at you?
Disgusting. These are political prisoners. Democrats rule like a communist police stateThe guy who wore the indian headdress in the capitol will likely get a new trial......the prosecution withheld video evidence from the defense....
Albert Watkins, whose client Jacob Chansley pleaded guilty to felony charges in connection with the Capitol riot and was sentenced to 41 months in prison, said Department of Justice prosecutors were legally bound to turn over the footage. Clips shown on Carlson’s Fox News Channel program show Chansley walking freely and peaceably through the building, often accompanied by multiple police officers.
“We did not receive that video footage,” Watkins said. “We asked for it, and not just once or twice. Whether we asked for it or not is irrelevant because the government had an absolute, non-compromisible duty to disclose that video and they did not do so.”
“And all the while, they were actively representing to the court and the American people that Jake was a leader, leading the charge into the Capitol,” he said. “They did not disclose that footage because it ran contrary to their rote narrative.”
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Court filings in Chansley’s case corroborate Watkins’ claim that he repeatedly asked for all videos of his client.
“Our position is that the government must identify any evidence it believes to capture [defendant], regardless of whether it intends to rely on the same in its case in chief,” one said.
Another look.....
This is why, perhaps, they refused to share the video with Chansley’s lawyer, which among other things violates his constitutional rights, big time. They are supposed to disclose all such materials in discovery, and failing to is prosecutorial misconduct.
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Ed noted before we knew this tidbit:
If true, and I believe that it is extremely likely that it is, then the DOJ lawyers involved should be in some serious legal jeopardy. At least if there is a semblance of legal integrity left in the federal government.
I am no lawyer, but what is at issue is something called Brady Disclosure, named after a case where theSupreme Court ruled that the government provide any exculpatory evidence to defendants in criminal cases.
The ruling was necessary, obviously, because prosecutors can be very…enthusiastic…about winning their cases and didn’t always disclose facts that would undermine their cases, leading to people being convicted based upon flawed or incomplete evidence.
So you think it’s okay for the government to manipulate and exploit a man that maybe does not have a full mental capacity to understand his rights…so they can perpetrate a fraud on the American public with their political theatre?Well, if Chansley thinks it’s so exculpatory then he won’t have to worry about it since he can now prove he’s innocent.
Not sure if Chansley is that stupid. I mean, he’s definitely not very bright but is he that dumb?
Chansley’s defense attorney already tried to convince the court he’s too stupid to stand trial, but it didn’t work. He’s competent.So you think it’s okay for the government to manipulate and exploit a man that maybe does not have a full mental capacity to understand his rights…so they can perpetrate a fraud on the American public with their political theatre?
Non epf the video is exculpatory. This is desperate Trumper fantasy.I knew this would be coming... This is just the first filing... It is now going to get very real for the feds who withheld exculpatory evidence. The real issue after this is will those prosecutors, Nancy Pelosi and others who used the "national Security" excuse be held to account? I am not convinced. this was criminal acts to frame individuals for crimes they did not commit under color of a law. People should be seeing very long prison sentences, disbarment, removal from office, and charges of treason for this behavior.
Chansley was manipulated by the qanon cult and right wing media. But every individual must take responsibility for their own actions.So you think it’s okay for the government to manipulate and exploit a man that maybe does not have a full mental capacity to understand his rights…so they can perpetrate a fraud on the American public with their political theatre?
The government didn’t make it public, one of the Fox hosts got the video through an FOIA request,The Govt had the video...that's how we finally got to see it, because the Govt finally made it public. The Govt can't hide evidence, that is a Brady violation.
“a duty to learn of any favorable evidence known to the others acting on the government’s behalf in the case, including the police.” - Kyles v Whitley https://www.actl.com/docs/default-s...io-guide-for-prosecutors.pdf?sfvrsn=c1df747_4
I thought Speaker McCarthy made it availableThe government didn’t make it public, one of the Fox hosts got the video through an FOIA request,
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Im sure the DoJ would love to prosecute Chansley for all six offenses rather than the one he pled guilty too.
If Chansley plays his cards right, he can get a significantly longer sentence and be an even bigger victim!
Will they send him money too? They like to send their dollars to criminals.Im sure the DoJ would love to prosecute Chansley for all six offenses rather than the one he pled guilty too.
If Chansley plays his cards right, he can get a significantly longer sentence and be an even bigger victim!
Almost certainly no.I think he gets released in July
Does he really want to throw out his plea bargain and face new charges ?
Obviously not since the video the J6 committee hid disputes it
HahahahaSo you think it’s okay for the government to manipulate and exploit a man that maybe does not have a full mental capacity to understand his rights…so they can perpetrate a fraud on the American public with their political theatre?
The irony meter just broke.Almost certainly no.
But the Trump cult won’t care. The narrative is set and they don’t need any further information.
You obviously havent seen all of the videos. Including the one where he is on the steps of the capital telling other protesters to go home. That they are not like ANTIFA ( ie violent) and President Trump wanted people to go home per a social media message he posted and he just read.
Bet that video didn’t make its meat to his defense attorney either.