Putin wasn't at MAL yesterday, but his presence was felt.

[berg80]

Russia pounded the Ukrainian capital with waves of missiles and attack drones on Saturday, an hourslong assault that came the day before President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine’s scheduled meeting in Florida with President Trump to discuss a plan to end the war.

Russia Pummels Kyiv Before Trump-Zelensky Meeting​

Two people were killed — one person in the suburbs of Kyiv and one in the city itself, according to the local authorities. At least 32 other people were wounded.

Mr. Zelensky said the attack made clear that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia was not serious about peace talks.

“Russian representatives engage in lengthy talks, but in reality, Kinzhals and ‘shaheds’ speak for them,” he wrote on social media, using the names of ballistic missiles and attack drones. “This is the true attitude of Putin and his inner circle. They do not want to end the war and seek to use every opportunity to cause Ukraine even greater suffering.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/27/world/europe/kyiv-ukraine-russia-trump-zelensky.html

The message Vlad sent on Saturday didn't seem like one that's conducive to peace. Unless he gets everything he wants. If that's the case Sunday's meeting was pointless. Don may as well have spent time picking out the fixtures for another WH bathroom renovation.

 

[Mac1958]

The message Vlad sent on Saturday didn't seem like one that's conducive to peace. Unless he gets everything he wants. If that's the case Sunday's meeting was pointless. Don may as well have spent time picking out the fixtures for another WH bathroom renovation.

It's a damn shame that Zelensky has to even talk to Trump. He knows where he stands, he knows what Trump wants and why, but he currently has no choice.

Maybe in a couple of years they can all wash their hands of us.

 

[berg80]

It's a damn shame that Zelensky has to even talk to Trump. He knows where he stands, he knows what Trump wants and why, but he currently has no choice.

Maybe in a couple of years they can all wash their hands of us.

Zelensky must be feeling slightly less beholden to Dotard after the $100+B commitment from European nations. But his preference would obviously be for Putin to be willing to make a compromise deal while trump's motivations lie elsewhere.

 

[Mac1958]

Zelensky must be feeling slightly less beholden to Dotard after the $100+B commitment from European nations. But his preference would obviously be for Putin to be willing to make a compromise deal while trump's motivations lie elsewhere.

Yeah, that has to be a BIG help. My guess is, though, that Europe isn't ready to provide the kind of full support that both they and Ukraine need to deal with this. Just a guess.

But no doubt they'd all rather not have to smile and make nicey-nice with the orange mob boss.

 

[berg80]

Yeah, that has to be a BIG help. My guess is, though, that Europe isn't ready to provide the kind of full support that both they and Ukraine need to deal with this. Just a guess.

But no doubt they'd all rather not have to smile and make nicey-nice with the orange mob boss.

Until such time as the international community treats Russia as it should for a country lead by a war criminal Putin has little reason to relent.

 

[Clipper]

It's a damn shame that Zelensky has to even talk to Trump. He knows where he stands, he knows what Trump wants and why, but he currently has no choice.

Maybe in a couple of years they can all wash their hands of us.

You could see it on Zelensky's face as Trump ranted at that presser that he knows Trump is a no good lying bastard out to sell Ukraine down the river to his buddy Putin.

The plan is for Trump, Kushner, Witkoff & Putin to loot Ukraine for all it's worth & Zelensky knows it.

 

[berg80]

You could see it on Zelensky's face as Trump ranted at that presser that he knows Trump is a no good lying bastard out to sell Ukraine down the river to his buddy Putin.

The plan is for Trump, Kushner, Witkoff & Putin to loot Ukraine for all it's worth & Zelensky knows it.

Don can't be trusted, obviously. His goals, self-aggrandizement, praise, Putin's approval, and maybe a piece of the profits from Ukraine's re-development, do not align with ours or Zelenskyy's. There are good faith peace brokers, and there are deal makers. The latter always have an angle..........as does the Orange Menace.

 

[Clipper]

Don can't be trusted, obviously. His goals, self-aggrandizement, praise, Putin's approval, and maybe a piece of the profits from Ukraine's re-development, do not align with ours or Zelenskyy's. There are good faith peace brokers, and there are deal makers. The latter always have an angle..........as does the Orange Menace.

Trump & Mikey Johnson both have Ukraine blood on their hands for scheming together to deny military aid to Ukraine for 6 months before the 2024 election. Neither one of those two assholes could be trusted- on anything, let alone Ukraine. And that also goes for Kushner & Witkoff.

Trump hates Zelensky for getting impeached after he tried to blackmail him.

 

[berg80]

Trump & Mikey Johnson both have Ukraine blood on their hands for scheming together to deny military aid to Ukraine for 6 months before the 2024 election. Neither one of those two assholes could be trusted- on anything, let alone Ukraine. And that also goes for Kushner & Witkoff.

Trump hates Zelensky for getting impeached after he tried to blackmail him.

The idea that a couple of real estate developers, one of whom is in bed with MBS, are the kind of people we should have negotiating with Russia for peace is ludicrous. They're there because they can be trusted by His Orangeness to go around State Dept. staff, and the dancing clown named Marco, who would normally be in charge of the discussions.

 

[berg80]

If the dictator known as trump's friend Vlad wanted the war to end, he could stop the attacks at any moment. He hasn’t done so, because he seems intent on a victory that would resign Ukraine to the status of a Russian colony.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Russia pounded the Ukrainian capital with waves of missiles and attack drones on Saturday, an hourslong assault that came the day before President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine’s scheduled meeting in Florida with President Trump to discuss a plan to end the war.

Russia Pummels Kyiv Before Trump-Zelensky Meeting​

Two people were killed — one person in the suburbs of Kyiv and one in the city itself, according to the local authorities. At least 32 other people were wounded.

Mr. Zelensky said the attack made clear that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia was not serious about peace talks.

“Russian representatives engage in lengthy talks, but in reality, Kinzhals and ‘shaheds’ speak for them,” he wrote on social media, using the names of ballistic missiles and attack drones. “This is the true attitude of Putin and his inner circle. They do not want to end the war and seek to use every opportunity to cause Ukraine even greater suffering.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/27/world/europe/kyiv-ukraine-russia-trump-zelensky.html

The message Vlad sent on Saturday didn't seem like one that's conducive to peace. Unless he gets everything he wants. If that's the case Sunday's meeting was pointless. Don may as well have spent time picking out the fixtures for another WH bathroom renovation.

Trump is acting as an agent of Russia; indeed, more of a messenger boy – telling Ukraine what Putin wants to the detriment of Ukraine.

Trump, forever Putin’s useful idiot.

 

[AlexanderPK]

Russia pounded the Ukrainian capital with waves of missiles and attack drones on Saturday, an hourslong assault that came the day before President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine’s scheduled meeting in Florida with President Trump to discuss a plan to end the war.

Russia Pummels Kyiv Before Trump-Zelensky Meeting​

Two people were killed — one person in the suburbs of Kyiv and one in the city itself, according to the local authorities. At least 32 other people were wounded.

Mr. Zelensky said the attack made clear that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia was not serious about peace talks.

“Russian representatives engage in lengthy talks, but in reality, Kinzhals and ‘shaheds’ speak for them,” he wrote on social media, using the names of ballistic missiles and attack drones. “This is the true attitude of Putin and his inner circle. They do not want to end the war and seek to use every opportunity to cause Ukraine even greater suffering.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/27/world/europe/kyiv-ukraine-russia-trump-zelensky.html

The message Vlad sent on Saturday didn't seem like one that's conducive to peace. Unless he gets everything he wants. If that's the case Sunday's meeting was pointless. Don may as well have spent time picking out the fixtures for another WH bathroom renovation.

What Russians, the people, don't understand is what these stupid back and forths of Witkoff and Dmitriev are for. Putin said in 2024 something in the order of "Our way or no way. Don't agree, we'll do what we need by force. Denazification, demilitarization and shit." Nothing has changed since then. Who is this junkie bastard to talk of any demands at all let alone the 20 point plans, when he's still alive solely due to the benevolent nature of Putin?

 

[Clipper]

Trump is acting as an agent of Russia; indeed, more of a messenger boy – telling Ukraine what Putin wants to the detriment of Ukraine.

Trump, forever Putin’s useful idiot.

Trump's praise of Putin today at that presser with Zelensky standing three feet away was nauseating, barf worthy. I think Trump does it on purpose because he's a malignant sociopath.

Imagine Zelensky having to stand next to Trump as he praises Putin who is responsible for mudering untold thousands of his fellow countrymen, including children?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Russia pounded the Ukrainian capital with waves of missiles and attack drones on Saturday, an hourslong assault that came the day before President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine’s scheduled meeting in Florida with President Trump to discuss a plan to end the war.

Russia Pummels Kyiv Before Trump-Zelensky Meeting​

Two people were killed — one person in the suburbs of Kyiv and one in the city itself, according to the local authorities. At least 32 other people were wounded.

Mr. Zelensky said the attack made clear that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia was not serious about peace talks.

“Russian representatives engage in lengthy talks, but in reality, Kinzhals and ‘shaheds’ speak for them,” he wrote on social media, using the names of ballistic missiles and attack drones. “This is the true attitude of Putin and his inner circle. They do not want to end the war and seek to use every opportunity to cause Ukraine even greater suffering.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/27/world/europe/kyiv-ukraine-russia-trump-zelensky.html

The message Vlad sent on Saturday didn't seem like one that's conducive to peace. Unless he gets everything he wants. If that's the case Sunday's meeting was pointless. Don may as well have spent time picking out the fixtures for another WH bathroom renovation.

The 1980s called, they want their foreign policy back.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Until such time as the international community treats Russia as it should for a country lead by a war criminal Putin has little reason to relent.

If only someone would encourage NATO to spend more on their own defense and stop buying Russian energy.

 

[berg80]

Trump's praise of Putin today at that presser with Zelensky standing three feet away was nauseating, barf worthy. I think Trump does it on purpose because he's a malignant sociopath.

Imagine Zelensky having to stand next to Trump as he praises Putin who is responsible for mudering untold thousands of his fellow countrymen, including children?

The orange nitwit actually said Putin has Ukraine's best interests in mind. He certainly did not get that from any intel briefing he had. Maybe he got it from Russian propaganda. Or he was repeating what Putin told him.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The orange nitwit actually said Putin has Ukraine's best interests in mind. He certainly did not get that from any intel briefing he had. Maybe he got it from Russian propaganda. Or he was repeating what Putin told him.

Maybe Obama said that, when he was interested in being flexible for Pooty-poot.

 

[Rogue AI]

What Russians, the people, don't understand is what these stupid back and forths of Witkoff and Dmitriev are for. Putin said in 2024 something in the order of "Our way or no way. Don't agree, we'll do what we need by force. Denazification, demilitarization and shit." Nothing has changed since then. Who is this junkie bastard to talk of any demands at all let alone the 20 point plans, when he's still alive solely due to the benevolent nature of Putin?

The Clown in Kiev isn't worth killing. He's a complete disaster as a war time leader. Why make a martyr of such?

 

[Concerned American]

Russia pounded the Ukrainian capital with waves of missiles and attack drones on Saturday, an hourslong assault that came the day before President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine’s scheduled meeting in Florida with President Trump to discuss a plan to end the war.

Russia Pummels Kyiv Before Trump-Zelensky Meeting​

Two people were killed — one person in the suburbs of Kyiv and one in the city itself, according to the local authorities. At least 32 other people were wounded.

Mr. Zelensky said the attack made clear that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia was not serious about peace talks.

“Russian representatives engage in lengthy talks, but in reality, Kinzhals and ‘shaheds’ speak for them,” he wrote on social media, using the names of ballistic missiles and attack drones. “This is the true attitude of Putin and his inner circle. They do not want to end the war and seek to use every opportunity to cause Ukraine even greater suffering.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/27/world/europe/kyiv-ukraine-russia-trump-zelensky.html

The message Vlad sent on Saturday didn't seem like one that's conducive to peace. Unless he gets everything he wants. If that's the case Sunday's meeting was pointless. Don may as well have spent time picking out the fixtures for another WH bathroom renovation.

Gee, Ukraine and Russia have been attacking each other regularly for four years and your whining because Putin responds to Zelensky's attacks and vice versa. STFU. It isn't our war and IDGAF who is doing the shooting. Trump is trying to get it to stop.

 

[22lcidw]

It's a damn shame that Zelensky has to even talk to Trump. He knows where he stands, he knows what Trump wants and why, but he currently has no choice.

Maybe in a couple of years they can all wash their hands of us.

It's time for us to leave the Ukraine issue. This would be over if we did not waste hundreds of billions of dollars and more.