Prominent Scientists Reverse Belief in Man-Made Global Warming

[red states rule]

Are the folks at National Geographic part of the enviro whacko groups fueling this supposed hysteria?

have you seen the latest issue of their magazine?

Considering global warming is an overhyped myth................

 

[maineman]

was that your ANSWER to my question?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

and when you run away from answering a simple question, you really cannot bitch when someone points out your cowardice and obfuscation.

Unless your blind, I answered your question. But do pretend otherwise.

 

[maineman]

sarge...would the National Geographic Society qualify as "enviro whackos" in your book?

Have you seen the latest issue?

I am sorry. I don't see a single mention in your response of anything having to do with the National Geographic Society in general or specifically, whether or not you had read their last issue.

 

[maineman]

CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. May 4-6, 2007. N=1,028 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.
"Which of the following statements comes closest to your view of global warming? Global warming is a proven fact and is mostly caused by emissions from cars and industrial facilities such as power plants and factories. Global warming is a proven fact and is mostly caused by natural changes that have nothing to do with emissions from cars and industrial facilities. Global warming is a theory that has not yet been proven."

Fact: Cars, Industry 54
Fact: Natural Changes 20
An Unproven Theory 22
Unsure 4

It would seem, RSR, that a majority of Americans do NOT believe that global warming is a myth. Things that make you go "hmmmmmm"

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Read my signature....

 

[RetiredGySgt]

But more to the point... why is it when a majority support something you don't like they are ignorant and wrong? But when they support something you like, all is right in the world?

 

[maineman]

But more to the point... why is it when a majority support something you don't like they are ignorant and wrong? But when they support something you like, all is right in the world?

please, show me some place where I said that the majority was "ignorant".

And I post that "poll" only to counter RSR's (and your) claims that it is well known that global warming is a "myth" only supported by the "enviro-wackos".

Clearly then, you need to accept that a majority of Americans are "enviro-wackos".

Are you willing to do that?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I have never said Global Warming wasn't happening. I did say there is no credible evidence that man is the culprit.

Remind me again about your opinion of the majority that elected Bush President in 2004? And your opinion of the majority that supported an Invasion Of Iraq? And the majority of Congressman that voted to authorized said invasion? And the majority of voters that elected Republicans in 2000, 2002 and 2004?

 

[maineman]

I have never said Global Warming wasn't happening. I did say there is no credible evidence that man is the culprit.

Remind me again about your opinion of the majority that elected Bush President in 2004? And your opinion of the majority that supported an Invasion Of Iraq? And the majority of Congressman that voted to authorized said invasion? And the majority of voters that elected Republicans in 2000, 2002 and 2004?

Quit bullshitting. Do you HAVE a quote of my calling the majority "ignorant" or don't you?

I have absolutely no problem with the fact that John Kerry was a weak candidate in 2004 and the majority of people did not want to change leadership in the middle of a war.

I also have absolutely no problem with the fact that a majority of Americans wanted Al Gore to be their president in 2000.

I have no problem with the fact that a minority of democratic congressmen were boxed into a corner by the brilliant political maneuvering of Karl Rove that made the vote for the use of force synonymous with a vote for Old Glory and voted to authorize this monkey in the oval office to take us to war on a whim.

I have no problem with the fact that congress was in the hands of the republicans rightfully so for twelve years.

Tell me again why YOU refuse to accept the will of the people that this war is wrong.

Tell me again why you continue to claim that there is NO credible evidence that man is exacerbating global warming when such an opinion flies in the face of the overwhelming consensus amongst scientists who have forgotten more about climatology than you will ever know?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Quit bullshitting. Do you HAVE a quote of my calling the majority "ignorant" or don't you?

I have absolutely no problem with the fact that John Kerry was a weak candidate in 2004 and the majority of people did not want to change leadership in the middle of a war.

I also have absolutely no problem with the fact that a majority of Americans wanted Al Gore to be their president in 2000.

I have no problem with the fact that a minority of democratic congressmen were boxed into a corner by the brilliant political maneuvering of Karl Rove that made the vote for the use of force synonymous with a vote for Old Glory and voted to authorize this monkey in the oval office to take us to war on a whim.

I have no problem with the fact that congress was in the hands of the republicans rightfully so for twelve years.

Tell me again why YOU refuse to accept the will of the people that this war is wrong.

Tell me again why you continue to claim that there is NO credible evidence that man is exacerbating global warming when such an opinion flies in the face of the overwhelming consensus amongst scientists who have forgotten more about climatology than you will ever know?

Science is NOT about consensus. Science can neither explain how man has caused the rise in temperature, other then, "gee it makes sense doesn't it?" nor make a scientific prediction of what the CLIMATE will be next year. Much less in 10, 20 or 100 years.

And as I recall one of the devices used to attack any "scientist" that disagreed with your "consensus" was to claim they were not "climate" specialists. Your studies and Journals are NOT "climate" specialists either.

 

[red states rule]

Freak snow, freezing temperatures and tropical storms across Europe are making the Bank Holiday washout here look almost pleasant.

In Spitzing in Germany, locals have been forced to wrap up after ten centimetres of snow brought out the snowploughs for the first time this year.

It was the same story in towns close to the Alps in Austria, Switzerland and even northern Italy where temperatures in May routinely climb into the 80s.

In one Swiss valley, 3,000 were trapped in hotels and guest houses because trains could not reach them in the snow.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...ews.html?in_article_id=458562&in_page_id=1811

This was happening just as Speaker Pelosi claimed to have seen “firsthand evidence that climate change is a reality".

 

[maineman]

Science is NOT about consensus. Science can neither explain how man has caused the rise in temperature, other then, "gee it makes sense doesn't it?" nor make a scientific prediction of what the CLIMATE will be next year. Much less in 10, 20 or 100 years.

And as I recall one of the devices used to attack any "scientist" that disagreed with your "consensus" was to claim they were not "climate" specialists. Your studies and Journals are NOT "climate" specialists either.

I never said that science was about consensus....I said that consensus among scientists has rightfully influenced public opinion and, much to your chagrin, a majority of Americans are not- according to your definition - enviro-wackos.

And you never did answer my simple question about the National Geographic Society and it's latest issue. Is there a problem there?

 

[maineman]

Freak snow, freezing temperatures and tropical storms across Europe are making the Bank Holiday washout here look almost pleasant.

In Spitzing in Germany, locals have been forced to wrap up after ten centimetres of snow brought out the snowploughs for the first time this year.

It was the same story in towns close to the Alps in Austria, Switzerland and even northern Italy where temperatures in May routinely climb into the 80s.

In one Swiss valley, 3,000 were trapped in hotels and guest houses because trains could not reach them in the snow.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...ews.html?in_article_id=458562&in_page_id=1811

This was happening just as Speaker Pelosi claimed to have seen “firsthand evidence that climate change is a reality".

one more time: do you, or do you not understand the difference between variation in WEATHER and climate change?

 

[red states rule]

I never said that science was about consensus....I said that consensus among scientists has rightfully influenced public opinion and, much to your chagrin, a majority of Americans are not- according to your definition - enviro-wackos.

And you never did answer my simple question about the National Geographic Society and it's latest issue. Is there a problem there?

Wait until this afternoon MM

It is hit 90 here today, then you can tell me how the Earth is burning up

 

[maineman]

Wait until this afternoon MM

It is hit 90 here today, then you can tell me how the Earth is burning up

stupid one liners ....

always avoiding the discussion...

always avoiding the questions, no matter how easy they are....

I predict that it won't be long before YOU'LL predict victory on this thread as well.

tarbaby

 

[red states rule]

stupid one liners ....

always avoiding the discussion...

always avoiding the questions, no matter how easy they are....

I predict that it won't be long before YOU'LL predict victory on this thread as well.

tarbaby

Libs rant about global warming whenever the weather gets to hot or to cold - it happens everytime

I continue to point out the bad timing of the libs when tey sprew their hysteria - and that is what bugs you MM

 

[maineman]

Libs rant about global warming whenever the weather gets to hot or to cold - it happens everytime

I continue to point out the bad timing of the libs when tey sprew their hysteria - and that is what bugs you MM

I am ONE liberal...and I am trying to have a conversation with YOU. It starts with a simple question, which can explain to me what common points of agreement and understanding about this subject we might, in fact, have.

Do you, RSR, understand the difference between variation in WEATHER and change in CLIMATE?

 

[red states rule]

I am ONE liberal...and I am trying to have a conversation with YOU. It starts with a simple question, which can explain to me what common points of agreement and understanding about this subject we might, in fact, have.

Do you, RSR, understand the difference between variation in WEATHER and change in CLIMATE?

You are trying to dictate how people talk to you

I am pointing out how all the doom and gloomers are falling on their faces

To libs cold weather is due to global warming, hot weather is due to global warming, and the next ice age will be due to global warming

 

[maineman]

You are trying to dictate how people talk to you

I am pointing out how all the doom and gloomers are falling on their faces

To libs cold weather is due to global warming, hot weather is due to global warming, and the next ice age will be due to global warming

you aren't talking to me at all...but railing against democrats in general. If you do, in fact, want to talk to ME, please start doing so. Talk to me...not to a movement....to me.


Let me try again:

Do you, RSR, understand the difference between variation in WEATHER and change in CLIMATE?