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[Silhouette]

...assumes all gay men are pedophiles.

No, I just read about the propensity of gays to molest, that's all:

Mayo Clinic 2007:

Pedophiles are usually attracted to a particular age range..and/or sex of child. Research categorizes male pedophiles by whether they are attracted to only male children (homosexual pedophilia), female children (heterosexual pedophilia),or children from both sexes (bisexual pedophilia)....The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men.. http://www.drrichardhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

Gay men account for around 2% of the population. Yet they are responsible for up to 40% of all reported molestations of children. Of note is their target demographic: boys. And a phenomenon well known with reporting molestation in children is that boys are far more likely to under report being molested because of the stigma attached to being buggered. So it's quite likely the propensity is closer to 40% or even above that for such a tiny tiny demographic doing all that.

 

[Skylar]

It's not mental gymnastics...

Given that children aren't parties to the marriage of their parents.....and your entire argument is that children are parties to the marriage of their parents...

...yeah, its gymnastics.

 

[Syriusly]

[Q
Not saying all gays.

Of course you are saying 'all gays'- that is the only thing you do- day in and day out.

I still remember when I posted the wonderful story of this couple- who stepped up to foster and adopt handicapped children that their own parents had abandoned

When I posted their story- you commented by saying that there was a reason why they only adopted boys and implied that they were molesting them- because that is what you do- you lie- and you attack homosexuals- even ones doing something as noble as these men are doing.

Once again- their story- and why they are good human beings- and you are a vile human being.

Why aren't you starting threads talking about men like these- who frankly are braver and nobler than I am- rather than spending your days trying to figure out how to harm the children adopted by homosexuals?

They have been together in a relationship for 24 years, and before they became full-time carers, Andrew taught at a school for children with special needs, and David worked in adult social care.

They first fostered 18 years ago. Then, the idea of two men adopting a child was uncommon, which is partly what led them to foster when, due to Andrew's experience with children with special needs, they were asked if they would look after a boy with severe disabilities. "He wasn't expected to live to his first birthday, although he eventually lived until he was seven and a half," says Andrew.

The death of a child will always be traumatic, but Andrew and David felt compelled to continue.

"He'd taught us so much and we'd developed so many skills … we thought, we can't just leave it. We've got to do something with this knowledge. That's when we decided to carry on fostering children with profound disabilities and terminal conditions."

The couple contacted Credo Care, an organisation that specialises in disability foster placements. Shortly after, Armand arrived.

"He arrived in March, 10 years ago," explains David. Born in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, six-year-old Armand had lived in hospital for most of his short life. A wheelchair user, he has severe learning disabilities, a tracheotomy and is fed through a Peg [percutaneous endoscopic gastrostomy].

"He came to us when he was six and was the first one to arrive. Four months later, we had an emergency phone call, asking us if we'd take a boy from Derby. Luke arrived that afternoon. He was 12 and had Duchenne muscular dystrophy. In those days he could shuffle around, but now, he's totally … well, the disease has got hold of his body. He's 22 now. He's a great lad, he really is. He's brilliant."

A couple of months after Luke joined the household, the couple were asked to take Steven, who was five and had cerebral palsy and learning difficulties. They have looked after the three boys ever since. Two years ago, they adopted a little girl. Sadly, she wasn't well and didn't live long.

"We had 17 wonderful months," says David. "She was three when she died. It was just 10 days after the adoption was completed, and it was very sudden, so … we haven't gone down that road again," he adds, choosing his words carefully to describe what must have been a devastating experience.

The latest addition to the household arrived earlier this year. Three-year-old Emma is immobile, has limited vision and breathes via a tracheotomy, but appears to be thriving in their care.

Gay foster carers: 'I love every minute of it'

 

[Syriusly]

...assumes all gay men are pedophiles.

No, I just read about the propensity of gays to molest, that's all:

Mayo Clinic 2007:\t.

You are such a vile liar.

• The "Mayo Clinic" had nothing to do with that study
• The study by Dr. Hall and Dr. Hall specifically says the opposite of what you say- and you specifically lie- by leaving out the very next sentence that contradicts you- you are a vile liar.

Silhouttes quote in yellow- what she left out in red- because she is a blatant liar
The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men (using a prevalence rate of adult homosexuality of 2%-4%).5,7,10,19,29,30

This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children.
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[Syriusly]

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Gay men account for around 2% of the population. Yet they are responsible for up to 40% of all reported molestations of children.t.

Men account for around 50% of the population. Yet men are responsible for up to 98% of all reported molestation of children.

Girls account for as much as 90% of the victims of child sexual abuse- yet Silhouette has never started a thread or condemned the molestation of a girl.

 

[Inevitable]

It's not mental gymnastics...

It certainly doesn't follow.

 

[Inevitable]

Gay men account for around 2% of the population.

Incorrect. Men who identify as gay account
For 2% of the population.

Yet they are responsible for up to 40% of all reported molestations of children.

No they aren't sweetheart. They're only responsible for about 1% to 2% of it.

I'm glad you posted this dishonest horseshit. I delight in debunking it.

Men who molest boys typically identify as heterosexual and not homosexual, so they aren't counted in the 2% that identify as homosexual.

I see no point in responding to any of the other garbage you posted because it's based on the gaping hole in your logic I just pointed out.

 

[Inevitable]

It's not mental gymnastics...

Given that children aren't parties to the marriage of their parents.....and your entire argument is that children are parties to the marriage of their parents...

...yeah, its gymnastics.

Well, I think she's right it's not gymnastics. It's just flat out lies.

Nobody but puerile that share her animosity toward homosexual men will believe her horse shit.

The ones that do, only do so in order to justify their prejudice.

 

[Skylar]

...assumes all gay men are pedophiles.

No, I just read about the propensity of gays to molest, that's all:

Mayo Clinic 2007:\t.

You are such a vile liar.

• The "Mayo Clinic" had nothing to do with that study
• The study by Dr. Hall and Dr. Hall specifically says the opposite of what you say- and you specifically lie- by leaving out the very next sentence that contradicts you- you are a vile liar.

Silhouttes quote in yellow- what she left out in red- because she is a blatant liar
The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men (using a prevalence rate of adult homosexuality of 2%-4%).5,7,10,19,29,30

This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children.
19

Which Sil knows as she's tried to use this lie at least a dozen times. And anyone familiar with Sil's compulsive obsession to hurt gay people will see her offer the same bone stupid lie again later when she thinks no one who knows the truth will notice.

Sil is willing to even exploit abused children to propagate her lies. 'Vile' is a good word to describe it.

 

[Skylar]

...assumes all gay men are pedophiles.

No, I just read about the propensity of gays to molest, that's all:

Mayo Clinic 2007:

Pedophiles are usually attracted to a particular age range..and/or sex of child. Research categorizes male pedophiles by whether they are attracted to only male children (homosexual pedophilia), female children (heterosexual pedophilia),or children from both sexes (bisexual pedophilia)....The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men.. http://www.drrichardhall

...assumes all gay men are pedophiles.

No, I just read about the propensity of gays to molest, that's all:

Mayo Clinic 2007:

Pedophiles are usually attracted to a particular age range..and/or sex of child. Research categorizes male pedophiles by whether they are attracted to only male children (homosexual pedophilia), female children (heterosexual pedophilia),or children from both sexes (bisexual pedophilia)....The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men..

http://www.drrichardhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

Gay men account for around 2% of the population. Yet they are responsible for up to 40% of all reported molestations of children. Of note is their target demographic: boys. And a phenomenon well known with reporting molestation in children is that boys are far more likely to under report being molested because of the stigma attached to being buggered. So it's quite likely the propensity is closer to 40% or even above that for such a tiny tiny demographic doing all that.

.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

Gay men account for around 2% of the population. Yet they are responsible for up to 40% of all reported molestations of children.

And that's an out right lie. Gay men are men who are attracted other men. Homosexual pedophiles are people are adults that are attracted to children of the same sex.

You are equating the two. Your source is clear that they are NOT the same thing. As demonstrated by the very next sentence after your quote:

This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children.

http://www.drrichardhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

You know you're lying. You know you're exploiting abused children to propagate your lies. Norman would have been disgusted at what you are doing.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Well my biological mother had four children by four different men, and my biological father had a few children out of wedlock, and I grew up with a Jewish Aunt and Unitarian Uncle that almost divorced many times over and I was reminded that I was the bastard child of my Aunt Half-Sister, so how does this having two parents of opposite sex suppose to work in your delusional world you live in?

Where were you to stop my biological mother and father from their sins?

Wait, they were heterosexual so who gives a damn, right?

So pardon me but fuck you, your poll, and again fuck you!

If a kid has two loving beings that raise them to know wrong from right and it is Adam and Steve or Butch and Lipstick Mom then I could give a flying fuck because I have known many heterosexual parents that should not have been allowed to breed, and before you write about those that made me, well I told them that to their fucking face, so there you have it!

And thru all this you learned civility and not have a chip on your shoulder

 

[Silhouette]

...assumes all gay men are pedophiles.

No, I just read about the propensity of gays to molest, that's all:

Mayo Clinic 2007:

Pedophiles are usually attracted to a particular age range..and/or sex of child. Research categorizes male pedophiles by whether they are attracted to only male children (homosexual pedophilia), female children (heterosexual pedophilia),or children from both sexes (bisexual pedophilia)....The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men.. http://www.drrichardhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

Gay men account for around 2% of the population. Yet they are responsible for up to 40% of all reported molestations of children. Of note is their target demographic: boys. And a phenomenon well known with reporting molestation in children is that boys are far more likely to under report being molested because of the stigma attached to being buggered. So it's quite likely the propensity is closer to 40% or even above that for such a tiny tiny demographic doing all that.

It certainly doesn't follow.

Sure it does. Are you saying the Mayo Clinic is lying?

 

[Debra K]

...assumes all gay men are pedophiles.

No, I just read about the propensity of gays to molest, that's all:

Mayo Clinic 2007:

Pedophiles are usually attracted to a particular age range..and/or sex of child. Research categorizes male pedophiles by whether they are attracted to only male children (homosexual pedophilia), female children (heterosexual pedophilia),or children from both sexes (bisexual pedophilia)....The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men.. http://www.drrichardhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

Gay men account for around 2% of the population. Yet they are responsible for up to 40% of all reported molestations of children. Of note is their target demographic: boys. And a phenomenon well known with reporting molestation in children is that boys are far more likely to under report being molested because of the stigma attached to being buggered. So it's quite likely the propensity is closer to 40% or even above that for such a tiny tiny demographic doing all that.

It certainly doesn't follow.

Sure it does. Are you saying the Mayo Clinic is lying?

Have you read the book "How to Lie with Statistics"? It outlines "errors when it comes to the interpretation of statistics".

How to Lie with Statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Perhaps you should acquire that book so you may learn how to interpret statistics. It appears, however, that you're lying to yourself more than you're lying to the rest of us. Perhaps, if you were not blinded by your hate, you could see and think more clearly. One of the things that cloud your thinking is your unhealthy obsession to demean and harm an entire class of people.

 

[Debra K]

Sil, in her willfully-blind, hate-induced state of existence, seeks to spread pernicious lies.

An especially pernicious myth is that most adults who sexually abuse children are gay. A number of researchers have looked at this question to determine if homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals, and the data indicate that's not the case.

For example, in a 1989 study led by Kurt Freund of the Clarke Institute of Psychiatry in Canada, scientists showed pictures of children to adult gay and straight males, and measured sexual arousal. Homosexual men reacted no more strongly to pictures of male children than heterosexual men reacted to pictures of female children.

A 1994 study, led by Carole Jenny of the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, surveyed 269 cases of children who were sexually molested by adults. In 82 percent of cases, the allegedoffender was a heterosexual partner of a close relative of thechild, the researchers reported in the journal Pediatrics. In only two out of 269 cases, the offender was identified asbeing gay or lesbian.

"The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children," wrote Gregory M. Herek, a professor of psychology at the University of California at Davis, on his website. Herek, who was not involved in the 1989 or 1994 studies, compiled a review of research on the topic.

Source: 5 Myths About Gay People Debunked

 

[Skylar]

...assumes all gay men are pedophiles.

No, I just read about the propensity of gays to molest, that's all:

Mayo Clinic 2007:

Pedophiles are usually attracted to a particular age range..and/or sex of child. Research categorizes male pedophiles by whether they are attracted to only male children (homosexual pedophilia), female children (heterosexual pedophilia),or children from both sexes (bisexual pedophilia)....The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men.. http://www.drrichardhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

Gay men account for around 2% of the population. Yet they are responsible for up to 40% of all reported molestations of children. Of note is their target demographic: boys. And a phenomenon well known with reporting molestation in children is that boys are far more likely to under report being molested because of the stigma attached to being buggered. So it's quite likely the propensity is closer to 40% or even above that for such a tiny tiny demographic doing all that.

It certainly doesn't follow.

Sure it does. Are you saying the Mayo Clinic is lying?

No, you're just a horrible, vile liar. As in the very next sentence after your quote, your own source explicitly contradicts you:

This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children.

http://www.drrichardhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

Trying to exploit the victims of molestation to further your lies? That's loathsome Jen.

Sure it does. Are you saying the Mayo Clinic is lying?

Nope, just you. Not only does your own source contradict you explicitly...that's not even the Mayo Clinic.

You can't stop yourself. You have to lie. Your compulsive obsession is utterly beyond your control.

 

[Skylar]

Sil, in her willfully-blind, hate-induced state of existence, seeks to spread pernicious lies.

An especially pernicious myth is that most adults who sexually abuse children are gay. A number of researchers have looked at this question to determine if homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals, and the data indicate that's not the case.

For example, in a 1989 study led by Kurt Freund of the Clarke Institute of Psychiatry in Canada, scientists showed pictures of children to adult gay and straight males, and measured sexual arousal. Homosexual men reacted no more strongly to pictures of male children than heterosexual men reacted to pictures of female children.

A 1994 study, led by Carole Jenny of the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, surveyed 269 cases of children who were sexually molested by adults. In 82 percent of cases, the allegedoffender was a heterosexual partner of a close relative of thechild, the researchers reported in the journal Pediatrics. In only two out of 269 cases, the offender was identified asbeing gay or lesbian.

"The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children," wrote Gregory M. Herek, a professor of psychology at the University of California at Davis, on his website. Herek, who was not involved in the 1989 or 1994 studies, compiled a review of research on the topic.

Source: 5 Myths About Gay People Debunked

That's not willful blindness. The paper she's citing makes it very clear that nothing she's alleged is true.

She's intentionally lying. Jen is using the victimized children of molestation to lie. And she's fully aware of how deceptive she's being, how horrid her lies are as she does it.

She simply can't stop herself. Her compulsion to attack gays is simply far stronger than any sense of integrity or humanity. Her mental illness is consuming her.

 

[Skylar]

...assumes all gay men are pedophiles.

No, I just read about the propensity of gays to molest, that's all:

Mayo Clinic 2007:

Pedophiles are usually attracted to a particular age range..and/or sex of child. Research categorizes male pedophiles by whether they are attracted to only male children (homosexual pedophilia), female children (heterosexual pedophilia),or children from both sexes (bisexual pedophilia)....The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men.. http://www.drrichardhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

Gay men account for around 2% of the population. Yet they are responsible for up to 40% of all reported molestations of children. Of note is their target demographic: boys. And a phenomenon well known with reporting molestation in children is that boys are far more likely to under report being molested because of the stigma attached to being buggered. So it's quite likely the propensity is closer to 40% or even above that for such a tiny tiny demographic doing all that.

It certainly doesn't follow.

Sure it does. Are you saying the Mayo Clinic is lying?

Have you read the book "How to Lie with Statistics"? It outlines "errors when it comes to the interpretation of statistics".

How to Lie with Statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Perhaps you should acquire that book so you may learn how to interpret statistics. It appears, however, that you're lying to yourself more than you're lying to the rest of us. Perhaps, if you were not blinded by your hate, you could see and think more clearly. One of the things that cloud your thinking is your unhealthy obsession to demean and harm an entire class of people.

There's no 'misintepreting the statistics'. In the very next sentence after the ones she quoted, her own source says this:

This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children.

http://www.drrichardhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

She has to cut and paste around that sentence every time she posts her lies. She's fully aware that her source backs nothing she's saying. She even knows that its not the Mayo Clinic.

She's simply hoping to find someone who doesn't......and convince them of her lies.

 

[Silhouette]

Sil, in her willfully-blind, hate-induced state of existence, seeks to spread pernicious lies.

An especially pernicious myth is that most adults who sexually abuse children are gay. A number of researchers have looked at this question to determine if homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals, and the data indicate that's not the case.

Let's do the math again. OF ALL child molestation events, gays are responsible for up to 40% of those. Since "all" represents 100% of the population combined of both heteros and homos, then homos being just 2% of the "all" doing up to 40% of "all" molestation means that if you are a gay you are extremely likely to have a propensity to molest children, weighed against your hetero counterparts.

To make things worse, men are responsible for about 90% of all molestation +/- And gay men target boys of course. Boys are the demographic between the two genders least likely to report the crime because of extreme shame and stigma attached to being buggered by a man ( source of "gay" teen suicide?) And if the molestation occurs often enough to a boy to habituate him to enjoying it sexually (a common issue with child molestation victims, and a source of their guilt/shame which often leads to suicide or suicidal lifestyles), that boy cannot get reparative therapy if he is unfortunate enough to live in either California or New Jersey..even if he himself elects it, wants it and knows his sexual "orientation" came from childhood abuse..

Once you're gay, you stay...or else...But as we all know, there are hundreds, if not thousands of coercive outfits doing outreach to "bi-curious youth" or "potentially closeted gay youth" seeking to tease the naturally curious adolescent mind over the borderline. But that's OK to seek to change hetero to gay. Just not the other way around.. Did I mention the propensity to molest (do inappropriate sexual coercion of youth) was higher in the gay population?

propensity: [pruh-pen-si-tee]
noun, plural propensities.
1.a natural inclination or tendency:

 

[Skylar]

Sil, in her willfully-blind, hate-induced state of existence, seeks to spread pernicious lies.

An especially pernicious myth is that most adults who sexually abuse children are gay. A number of researchers have looked at this question to determine if homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals, and the data indicate that's not the case.

Let's do the math again. OF ALL child molestation events, gays are responsible for up to 40% of those. Since "all" represents 100% of the population combined of both heteros and homos, then homos being just 2% of the "all" doing up to 40% of "all" molestation means that if you are a gay you are extremely likely to have a propensity to molest children, weighed against your hetero counterparts.

Stupid, obvious lies. The article you're citing makes a clear distinction between gay men (men who are attracted to men) and homosexual pedophiles (people attracted to children of their same gender). As you know....as you have to copy and paste *around* the article making these very clear distinctions every time you post. The bolded portions are those that you intentionally omit.

Pedophiles are usually attracted to a particular age range and/or sex of child. Research categorizes male pedophiles by whether they are attracted to only male children (homosexual pedophilia), female children (heterosexual pedophilia), or children from both sexes (bisexual pedophilia).3,6,10,29 The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men (using a prevalence rate of adult homosexuality of 2%-4%).5,7,10,19,29,30 This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children.

http://www.drrichardhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

You know that a gay man and a homosexual pedophile aren't the same thing. Your own article, in the very sentence absolutely obliterates your entire claim:

This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children.


http://www.drrichardhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

Why lie? Its not like we can't see the article and know you're lying through your teeth. And we've refuted the same stupid lie dozens of times. So you know you're lying. And you know we know.

What's the point then? All you're doing is demonstrating to NEW participants in the thread that you're a liar who can't be trusted. And worse, someone who is willing to exploit sexually abused children to do lie.

To make things worse, men are responsible for about 90% of all molestation +/- And gay men target boys of course.

Your article never says this. Jerry Sandusky for example was heterosexual (a man attracted to women) and a homosexual pedophile (a man attracted to boys).

Typing 'of course' isn't evidence. Show us in the article where gay men (men who are attracted to men) target boys. As Jerry Sandusky demonstrates, a pedophiles sexual orientation with adults isn't necessarily related to their orientation toward children.

You're making this shit up as you go along.

 

[Silhouette]

You do protest too much, you know...