Police are being abused and treated poorly. Recently a two cops were demoted for doing a good job

[Rigby5]

It's disgusting that we are treating our police officers this way. These officers put their lives on the lines arresting these two dangerous criminals, and as a reward for their hard work they are reprimanded. Shameful! I don't want to live in a world in which people are allowed to be disrespectful to police officers, or a where police are punished when they smack down people who are disrespectful for them. Police should have every right to arrest people who upset them.

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article248020770.html

These cops should be in jail.
Police do not and can never have any more authority than anyone in a democratic republic.
They can NOT tell you to roll down a window or get out of the car unless there is probable cause to arrest you for a crime they witnessed.
These cops violated dozens of laws and are criminals.

 

[Rigby5]

It's disgusting that we are treating our police officers this way. These officers put their lives on the lines arresting these two dangerous criminals, and as a reward for their hard work they are reprimanded. Shameful! I don't want to live in a world in which people are allowed to be disrespectful to police officers, or a where police are punished when they smack down people who are disrespectful for them. Police should have every right to arrest people who upset them.

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article248020770.html

**** those tyrants.

People should have come out of their houses and killed them both.

The father had 18 years to teach his son the correct way to behave when pulled over by the police. He failed miserably. The father is 100% the source of his son’s misfortunes and demonstrates it through his own aggressive behavior and disrespectful mouth. All these videos start the same way: atypical social behavior by citizens that feel the need to be contrary. It ALL stems from their embedded anger and hatred of police and the American way of life. They were both given direct orders, and they refused to obey. That is why they were arrested.

The CORRECT way to legally deal with police is to not say a word.
Any lawyer will tell you that.
All you legally have to do is hand them your license and proof of insurance through a crack in the window opening.
You are VERY ignorant of the law, good behavior, and the proper respect for authority.
Police are NOT authority, we are.
Police are servants, and are supposed to address us as SIR.
They are never to order us to do anything unless we harmed someone else and have to be arrested in order to protect others.
Police are NOT supposed to be obeyed.
They work for us and are supposed to do what we tell them to.

 

[Godboy]

It's disgusting that we are treating our police officers this way. These officers put their lives on the lines arresting these two dangerous criminals, and as a reward for their hard work they are reprimanded. Shameful! I don't want to live in a world in which people are allowed to be disrespectful to police officers, or a where police are punished when they smack down people who are disrespectful for them. Police should have every right to arrest people who upset them.

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article248020770.html

Nope, im on the cops side in virtually every one of these videos, but the son being pulled out of the car was a bit much, but he was acting weird with the window thing so im ok with that. The dad on the sidewalk however had every right to stand there. He was far from where his son was being arrested and he had every right to film the incident with his phone. The dad was right to sue the police and that cop deserved to be reprimanded.

 

[JuvenalsCat]

It's disgusting that we are treating our police officers this way. These officers put their lives on the lines arresting these two dangerous criminals, and as a reward for their hard work they are reprimanded. Shameful! I don't want to live in a world in which people are allowed to be disrespectful to police officers, or a where police are punished when they smack down people who are disrespectful for them. Police should have every right to arrest people who upset them.

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article248020770.html

Nope, im on the cops side in virtually every one of these videos, but the son being pulled out of the car was a bit much, but he was acting weird with the window thing so im ok with that. The dad on the sidewalk however had every right to stand there. He was far from where his son was being arrested and he had every right to film the incident with his phone. The dad was right to sue the police and that cop deserved to be reprimanded.

Wrong. The kid could have been shot for his behavior and it would have been 100% justified. You don't roll up your window, put on sun glasses, divert your eyes, or look directly into the eyes of a police officer. Their jobs are difficult and such behavior serves no purpose other than to give make the police fear the public even more than they already do. Both the father and the son should have had their car impounded and should have been in prison for a long long time.

 

[Beef_Supreme]

They should be fired.

Its out of control cops like these two idiots that give police a bad name.

Holy shit.
We agree on something.

 

[JuvenalsCat]

You all are probably the same police haters who are defending the thug Andre Hill who was rightfully killed by brave Columbus police officers a few days ago. A criminal charges the officers with an aggressive walk with a potentially deadly weapon in hand (I've read stories on twitter about guns made to look like cell phones) Not to mention the way he hid his other hand to his side despite knowing there were police officers near by. People need to learn that if they see a police officer within 500 ft of them, then they need to put their hands up stop moving until the officer moves out of range. It's not hard. It's called showing respect for authority.

Columbus officer who killed Andre' Hill served with charges recommending his firing

Officer Adam Coy was served with paperwork Thursday notifying him of administrative charges against him and a recommendation that he be fired.

www.dispatch.com

 

[Rigby5]

It's disgusting that we are treating our police officers this way. These officers put their lives on the lines arresting these two dangerous criminals, and as a reward for their hard work they are reprimanded. Shameful! I don't want to live in a world in which people are allowed to be disrespectful to police officers, or a where police are punished when they smack down people who are disrespectful for them. Police should have every right to arrest people who upset them.

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article248020770.html

Nope, im on the cops side in virtually every one of these videos, but the son being pulled out of the car was a bit much, but he was acting weird with the window thing so im ok with that. The dad on the sidewalk however had every right to stand there. He was far from where his son was being arrested and he had every right to film the incident with his phone. The dad was right to sue the police and that cop deserved to be reprimanded.

Wrong. The kid could have been shot for his behavior and it would have been 100% justified. You don't roll up your window, put on sun glasses, divert your eyes, or look directly into the eyes of a police officer. Their jobs are difficult and such behavior serves no purpose other than to give make the police fear the public even more than they already do. Both the father and the son should have had their car impounded and should have been in prison for a long long time.

Nonsense.
Police has no special powers to order anyone to do anything.
You NEVER roll your window down.
It is not a legal request if a cop asks for it to be rolled down, and the cop is then a criminal violating the law.
Their job is not at all difficult, and they are very well paid.
You obviously do not at all understand the law.
The whole stop was criminal because he said the driver did a "wide turn".
Well there is nothing remotely illegal about a "wide turn", so the stop was illegal.
Taking people's time up on an illegal stop is almost like kidnapping.
Totally criminal.

 

[Rigby5]

You all are probably the same police haters who are defending the thug Andre Hill who was rightfully killed by brave Columbus police officers a few days ago. A criminal charges the officers with an aggressive walk with a potentially deadly weapon in hand (I've read stories on twitter about guns made to look like cell phones) Not to mention the way he hid his other hand to his side despite knowing there were police officers near by. People need to learn that if they see a police officer within 500 ft of them, then they need to put their hands up stop moving until the officer moves out of range. It's not hard. It's called showing respect for authority.

Columbus officer who killed Andre' Hill served with charges recommending his firing

Officer Adam Coy was served with paperwork Thursday notifying him of administrative charges against him and a recommendation that he be fired.

www.dispatch.com

Police are NOT authority.
The only source of legal authority in a democratic republic is the defense of individual rights.
Police can borrow delegated authority from that, but only when necessary in order to defend the inherent rights of someone.
If police are going to assume they are authority and become a risk to others, then they are the worst criminals imaginable, and need to be eliminated.
We would be much better off with out police than to have bad police.
And we did fine before 1900, when there were no police, (essentially).

 

[Godboy]

It's disgusting that we are treating our police officers this way. These officers put their lives on the lines arresting these two dangerous criminals, and as a reward for their hard work they are reprimanded. Shameful! I don't want to live in a world in which people are allowed to be disrespectful to police officers, or a where police are punished when they smack down people who are disrespectful for them. Police should have every right to arrest people who upset them.

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article248020770.html

Nope, im on the cops side in virtually every one of these videos, but the son being pulled out of the car was a bit much, but he was acting weird with the window thing so im ok with that. The dad on the sidewalk however had every right to stand there. He was far from where his son was being arrested and he had every right to film the incident with his phone. The dad was right to sue the police and that cop deserved to be reprimanded.

Wrong. The kid could have been shot for his behavior and it would have been 100% justified. You don't roll up your window, put on sun glasses, divert your eyes, or look directly into the eyes of a police officer. Their jobs are difficult and such behavior serves no purpose other than to give make the police fear the public even more than they already do. Both the father and the son should have had their car impounded and should have been in prison for a long long time.

Nonsense.
Police has no special powers to order anyone to do anything.
You NEVER roll your window down.
It is not a legal request if a cop asks for it to be rolled down, and the cop is then a criminal violating the law.
Their job is not at all difficult, and they are very well paid.
You obviously do not at all understand the law.
The whole stop was criminal because he said the driver did a "wide turn".
Well there is nothing remotely illegal about a "wide turn", so the stop was illegal.
Taking people's time up on an illegal stop is almost like kidnapping.
Totally criminal.

Wrong, if a cop asks you to roll down your window, you better roll it down. It isnt easy to hear on the side of a raod as it is, but you with the window rolled up leaves him a dangerous position, plus if your windows are tinted, he cant see you, and he DOES need to see you.

 

[Rigby5]

It's disgusting that we are treating our police officers this way. These officers put their lives on the lines arresting these two dangerous criminals, and as a reward for their hard work they are reprimanded. Shameful! I don't want to live in a world in which people are allowed to be disrespectful to police officers, or a where police are punished when they smack down people who are disrespectful for them. Police should have every right to arrest people who upset them.

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article248020770.html

Nope, im on the cops side in virtually every one of these videos, but the son being pulled out of the car was a bit much, but he was acting weird with the window thing so im ok with that. The dad on the sidewalk however had every right to stand there. He was far from where his son was being arrested and he had every right to film the incident with his phone. The dad was right to sue the police and that cop deserved to be reprimanded.

Wrong. The kid could have been shot for his behavior and it would have been 100% justified. You don't roll up your window, put on sun glasses, divert your eyes, or look directly into the eyes of a police officer. Their jobs are difficult and such behavior serves no purpose other than to give make the police fear the public even more than they already do. Both the father and the son should have had their car impounded and should have been in prison for a long long time.

Nonsense.
Police has no special powers to order anyone to do anything.
You NEVER roll your window down.
It is not a legal request if a cop asks for it to be rolled down, and the cop is then a criminal violating the law.
Their job is not at all difficult, and they are very well paid.
You obviously do not at all understand the law.
The whole stop was criminal because he said the driver did a "wide turn".
Well there is nothing remotely illegal about a "wide turn", so the stop was illegal.
Taking people's time up on an illegal stop is almost like kidnapping.
Totally criminal.

Wrong, if a cop asks you to roll down your window, you better roll it down. It isnt easy to hear on the side of a raod as it is, but you with the window rolled up leaves him a dangerous position, plus if your windows are tinted, he cant see you, and he DOES need to see you.

The cop does not need to hear or see me.
I do not have to say a word to him, and windows are not allowed to be tinted much, nor would it matter.
Cops can never see your hands anyway, especially is one is in a tall vehicle.

Back 20 years ago I used to get out of the car so the police would not be so afraid.
Now if you try to do that, they threaten to shoot you.
Cops these days are incredibly stupid, ignorant, and dangerous.

 

[Godboy]

It's disgusting that we are treating our police officers this way. These officers put their lives on the lines arresting these two dangerous criminals, and as a reward for their hard work they are reprimanded. Shameful! I don't want to live in a world in which people are allowed to be disrespectful to police officers, or a where police are punished when they smack down people who are disrespectful for them. Police should have every right to arrest people who upset them.

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article248020770.html

Nope, im on the cops side in virtually every one of these videos, but the son being pulled out of the car was a bit much, but he was acting weird with the window thing so im ok with that. The dad on the sidewalk however had every right to stand there. He was far from where his son was being arrested and he had every right to film the incident with his phone. The dad was right to sue the police and that cop deserved to be reprimanded.

Wrong. The kid could have been shot for his behavior and it would have been 100% justified. You don't roll up your window, put on sun glasses, divert your eyes, or look directly into the eyes of a police officer. Their jobs are difficult and such behavior serves no purpose other than to give make the police fear the public even more than they already do. Both the father and the son should have had their car impounded and should have been in prison for a long long time.

Nonsense.
Police has no special powers to order anyone to do anything.
You NEVER roll your window down.
It is not a legal request if a cop asks for it to be rolled down, and the cop is then a criminal violating the law.
Their job is not at all difficult, and they are very well paid.
You obviously do not at all understand the law.
The whole stop was criminal because he said the driver did a "wide turn".
Well there is nothing remotely illegal about a "wide turn", so the stop was illegal.
Taking people's time up on an illegal stop is almost like kidnapping.
Totally criminal.

Wrong, if a cop asks you to roll down your window, you better roll it down. It isnt easy to hear on the side of a raod as it is, but you with the window rolled up leaves him a dangerous position, plus if your windows are tinted, he cant see you, and he DOES need to see you.

The cop does not need to hear or see me.
I do not have to say a word to him, and windows are not allowed to be tinted much, nor would it matter.
Cops can never see your hands anyway, especially is one is in a tall vehicle.

Back 20 years ago I used to get out of the car so the police would not be so afraid.
Now if you try to do that, they threaten to shoot you.
Cops these days are incredibly stupid, ignorant, and dangerous.

You have lost your ******* mind. If you are speeding and putting people in danger, you cant sit there with your windows rolled up and ignoring the cop. Go ahead and try that shit. Youll get your stupid ass dragged out of your piece of shit car and thrown in jail.

 

[pknopp]

It's disgusting that we are treating our police officers this way. These officers put their lives on the lines arresting these two dangerous criminals, and as a reward for their hard work they are reprimanded. Shameful! I don't want to live in a world in which people are allowed to be disrespectful to police officers, or a where police are punished when they smack down people who are disrespectful for them. Police should have every right to arrest people who upset them.

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article248020770.html

Nope, im on the cops side in virtually every one of these videos, but the son being pulled out of the car was a bit much, but he was acting weird with the window thing so im ok with that. The dad on the sidewalk however had every right to stand there. He was far from where his son was being arrested and he had every right to film the incident with his phone. The dad was right to sue the police and that cop deserved to be reprimanded.

Wrong. The kid could have been shot for his behavior and it would have been 100% justified. You don't roll up your window, put on sun glasses, divert your eyes, or look directly into the eyes of a police officer. Their jobs are difficult and such behavior serves no purpose other than to give make the police fear the public even more than they already do. Both the father and the son should have had their car impounded and should have been in prison for a long long time.

Nonsense.
Police has no special powers to order anyone to do anything.
You NEVER roll your window down.
It is not a legal request if a cop asks for it to be rolled down, and the cop is then a criminal violating the law.
Their job is not at all difficult, and they are very well paid.
You obviously do not at all understand the law.
The whole stop was criminal because he said the driver did a "wide turn".
Well there is nothing remotely illegal about a "wide turn", so the stop was illegal.
Taking people's time up on an illegal stop is almost like kidnapping.
Totally criminal.

These kinds of stops need to stop.

Touching white highway line isn’t valid reason for traffic stop, Ohio Supreme Court rules

 

[harmonica]

....police brutality and racism are the 2 biggest lies of the decade

 

[JoeB131]

It's disgusting that we are treating our police officers this way. These officers put their lives on the lines arresting these two dangerous criminals, and as a reward for their hard work they are reprimanded. Shameful! I don't want to live in a world in which people are allowed to be disrespectful to police officers, or a where police are punished when they smack down people who are disrespectful for them. Police should have every right to arrest people who upset them.

Sounds like a couple of bullies with badges... We need to fire them before they do something stupid and cost that city a lot of money.

 

[freyasman]

I came across this video, illustrates a lot of the issues we have been talking about in this thread with regards to the windows, answering questions, etc.
Check it out;

 

[Superbadbrutha]

....police brutality and racism are the 2 biggest lies of the decade

According to a racist.

 

[harmonica]

....police brutality and racism are the 2 biggest lies of the decade

According to a racist.

no, according to the facts and math ..you think with your emotions--I do not

there is no police brutality problem

..there are 10 MILLION arrests per year--this is not counting traffic stops ..there are 30 million calls for police assistance ..and how many without--a--question--police caused murder/manslaughter deaths ??? let's go high and say 30 [ and 30 is a lot more than there really is ] ..that's 1...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[JoeB131]

I came across this video, illustrates a lot of the issues we have been talking about in this thread with regards to the windows, answering questions, etc.
Check it out;

Wow, so a white person talks smack to a cop and gets treated with caution.

A black guy who pulled that shit would have been bent over the hood in cuffs.

 

[JuvenalsCat]

These cops should be in jail.
Police do not and can never have any more authority than anyone in a democratic republic.
They can NOT tell you to roll down a window or get out of the car unless there is probable cause to arrest you for a crime they witnessed.
These cops violated dozens of laws and are criminals.

Serious Kitty...

How would you propose a police officer handle someone who commit some sort of infraction like speeding or running a red light if that person refuses to roll down their window? Should those even be viewed as violations of the law, or should the police ignore such infractions? If you do believe there should be some sort of traffic enforcement, would you find it acceptable to have so the such refusals end with the person the vehicle is registered to being mailed the ticket/notification of court appearance/whatever? In the event of the person who was pulled over being someone borrowing the vehicle, how should that be handled? Tough luck for the owner if they don't get the person to admit to it? How about in the case of company vehicles? How about in cases where the vehicle is simply not registered to anyone? Should those vehicles/drivers be untouchable since there is no recourse for the police officers? If not, how would you propose that be handled? How about in more serious cases in which it is believed someone may be at risk of causing harm or is wanted in a murder? Do you feel that is a different situation, and your comment only applies to minor traffic infractions?

 

[JuvenalsCat]

*freyasman* You voted down this comment in which I asked questions for clarification and for the case to be made for people who rightfully ask such questions. If there is an unwillingness to answer these questions, then perhaps an explanation as to why they are not valid questions and shouldn't be a concern.

<----lame