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Jerusalem Synagogue massacre: Israel’s enemies unite in thoughts, words and deeds !
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Olivier Melnick

On Tuesday November 18, 2014 many Jewish people around the world were gathered in their respective synagogues for worship and prayer. For pious Jews, synagogue attendance is part of a regular routine that punctuates their daily schedule. Prayer is like breathing; you simply can’t function without it. It was Elie Wiesel in Night who, asked by Moshe from the synagogue why he prayed, answered: “Why did I pray? A strange question. Why did I live? Why did I breathe?”

It was in the midst of a daily service that the lives of the congregants of ultra-orthodox synagogue Kehilat Bnei Torah were changed forever. Apparently “inspired” by the butchers of ISIS, two Palestinian cousins, hatchet and gun in hand, barged inside the house of prayer and killed four people–three of them rabbis– and wounded many more. The death toll was raised to five when one of the first responding police officers who was shot in the head, died within hours. This was the worst attack in Jerusalem since 2008.

My heart goes out to the families of the victims as well as the community around that particular synagogue. But it really is the whole worldwide Jewish community who was hit on Tuesday. I have often said that the new anti-Semitism finds all Jews guilty of Israel’s “crimes” as if by proxy, regardless of their locale. While this concept is not rooted in logic, a similar one–that one with merit– relating to the global Jewish community, makes all Jews mourn when they hear of the loss of a fellow Jew. For that reason, I mourn our loss and I denounce the barbarism of the perpetrators.

Passed the obvious outrage about this unspeakable act of terrorism, we need to consider the crimes beyond the crime, as we have also witnessed much more anti-Semitism than that of the two Palestinian murderers. What was the world’s response to this third act of terrorism in Jerusalem in the last month?

President Obama, appeared to be denouncing this bloody carnage when he said:“ The murderers for today’s outrageous acts represent the kind of extremism that threatens to bring all of the Middle East into the kind of spiral from which it’s very difficult to emerge,” yet I am trying to understand what he really meant when he said: “But we have to remind ourselves that the majority of Palestinians and Israelis overwhelmingly want peace and to be able to raise their families knowing they’re safe and secure.”

I don’t doubt that the majority of Israelis want peace in the region. I am also aware that even in the midst of the Jewish community, there might be some who do not wish for peace with the Palestinians and might even display some signs of racism. Let’s remember that racism is part of human nature and as such it exists globally. This being said, the vast majority of Israelis do want peace.

On the other hand, I strongly disagree with President Obama regarding the Palestinian desire for peace. Come on Mr. President, it was only minutes after the crime that Palestinians were celebrating on the streets, holding pictures of the two terrorists as heroes and passing out candy. Even Hamas leadership was very clear in their position as they praised the attack on the synagogue. Fatah leader Mahmoud Abbas denounced the attack, but of course he remained silent when it came to voice his disagreement with Hamas. It wouldn’t be the first time that Mr. Abbas speaks from both sides of his mouth. Let us not forget that Hamas and Fatah are at peace and working together to promote the establishment of the State of Palestine. According to Hamas’ charter, Israel and the Jewish people must disappear for Palestine to exist, as is clearly stated in several of their 36 articles.

Article 8 The Hamas document reiterates the Muslim Brotherhood’s slogan of “Allah is its goal, the Prophet is the model, the Qur’an its constitution, jihad its path, and death for the sake of Allah its most sublime belief.

Article 13 There is no negotiated settlement possible. Jihad is the only answer.

As a Jew, I must ask: “What part of ‘they want to kill us ALL’ do you not understand Mr. President?” In the meantime, the US and the EU continue to fund the Palestinian Authority indiscriminately. Does that make them co-conspirators or co-perpetrators?

Aside from the two direct perpetrators, the myriad of cheering Palestinian supporters and various world governments making empty statements, we also must consider how the media kicked Israel and the Jewish people while they were down–a common practice, so it seems. The bias is nauseating!

  • CNN originally reported that the attack was perpetrated on a mosque not a synagogue (most likely a mistake, but seriously!?)
Once again, in the midst of a bloodbath, Israel’s enemies have joined forces. Perpetrators, supporters and reporters all seems to look at the Middle East crisis through the same warped lenses of bias and anti-Semitism. Long gone are the days when I gave them all the benefit of the doubt and allowed them to claim ignorance. There was malice in the act itself, there was malice in those supporting it and there was even malice in the heart of those reporting the tragedy.

In Psalm 133:1 we read Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brothers to dwell together in unity! As the enemies of Israel continue to stand together in defiance of the real meaning of this beautiful passage of Scripture, we, the Jews and the friends of Israel must dwell together, hold hands and keep each other in a prayerful vigil.

There has never been a more appropriate time to remember God’s promise to Abraham and the Jewish people in Bereshit (Genesis):

I will bless those who bless you and I will curse him who curses you”.
 
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THE absurd.
 
Person of faith and every sites of worship was the victim.

Couldn't you have just left it at that? Jews are such drama queens.
 
Person of faith and every sites of worship was the victim.

Couldn't you have just left it at that? Jews are such drama queens.

Do you have anything better to do than post anti Jewish crap all the time? I don't think I've EVER seen you post something constructive.
You're a pathetic loser
 
Person of faith and every sites of worship was the victim.

Couldn't you have just left it at that? Jews are such drama queens.

Muslims attack their own mosques, burn rugs, destroy qurans and it is ignored.
Muslims have spilled blood in churches, destroyed synagogues, destroyed holy icons and incinerated bibles and the muslim world cheers.
If a non-muslims steps foot on the mount they are subject to verbal abuse, rock throwing and molotov cocktails. If a jew sets foot on the mount there is intafada.
The attack and killing of the rabbis as they were praying make every house of worship and every person of faith a target, including muslim and even the mount. Muslim have set fire to al-Aqsa before and the waqf refusing to do the necessary repair to the the mosque and the wall under it, so it might well come down...............and blame it on the jews even if is at their own hand.

Every place of worship is no longer considered sanctuary. It turns a political conflict into a religious jihad and it's counter crusade.

Nothing is safe or off limits
 
You said it yourself Aris, when they attack their own mosques and blow up markets filled with fellow Muslim women and children, they can't be expected to treat non Muslims any better.
 
Globally we might see small businesses putting up signs that they have the right to refuse service to any one and refusing service to all muslims. Or they might refuse to hire muslims or rent of sell housing to muslims.
We have already see mosques not allowed to call worshipers to pray because it disturbs the quiet of a neighborhood. Area zoning preventing muslim mosques or school being built.
Denmark has christians leaving because of the muslims. France has more hate crimes perpetrated by muslims. Even the queen of jordan has condemned radicalism for pulling muslims back into the dark ages.
When prayer becomes the target of muslims it has losted it's credibility and right to call itself a religion of peace. It turns muslims into potential victims around the world.
Mohammed only wanted to unite the arabs and give them a sense of pride and belief in the one god. To bring peace to the arabs instead of tribal warfare and long burning sense of retaliation. What we see in the news today is an abomination of hate spreading like a cancer in "the name of Islam".
 
If killing 3 Jews is a massacre. What do you call the murder of over 1,000 innocent civilians in Gaza?
 
If killing 3 Jews is a massacre. What do you call the murder of over 1,000 innocent civilians in Gaza?
I call it war. Not all of the 1,000 killed were civilians. Some were combatants. Also, the massacre in Jerusalem consisted of 4 rabbis at prayer, not 3 (every life is important). A Druze police officer also died.
 
If killing 3 Jews is a massacre. What do you call the murder of over 1,000 innocent civilians in Gaza?

It is not the number of dead but where and who was butchered.
The rabbis were not just shot or blown up by a bomb but hacked with knives and an axe. This was up close and personal attack. This was not random violence from outside, the palestinians enter a house of worship with the intent of murder.
This is not about number of collateral victims in a war this was far more insidious aimed at the jewish faith and all faith in general.
 
Mourners attend the funeral of police officer Zidan Sif, who died after the attack.

Jerusalem's New Holy War
163 Nov 19, 2014 3:30 PM EST
By Daniel Gordis

There are terror attacks, and there are pogroms. The attack at a Jerusalem synagogue this week that killed four rabbis was a pogrom. It was an attack motivated not by politics but by religious hatred; it was directed not at Israelis but at Jews.

The killers were armed with hatchets and guns instead of suicide belts, and they came not to kill Jews but to butcher them. The images are horrific: a prayer shawl in a pool of blood; a prayer book turned crimson, from which one of the victims had been worshiping as he was killed; and more haunting, the hand of a dead man, still wearing his phylacteries, soaking in his own blood. Witnesses said a worshiper’s arm, also wrapped in a leather prayer strap, had been hacked off its torso.

To Jews schooled in Jewish history, these images are not new; they are the images of a destiny from which Israel had been intended to redeem the Jews. Consider this description of the Kishinev Pogrom in 1903:

[One young boy], blinded in one eye from youth, begged for his life with the offer of sixty rubles; taking this money, the leader of the crowd … gouged out [his] other eye, saying “You will never again look upon a Christian child.” Nails were driven through heads; bodies, hacked in half; bellies split open and filled with feathers. Women and girls were raped, and some had their breasts cut off.

Jews knew that sort of hatred could not be combated with reason. Violence of that sort was not motivated by economics, by contested territory or even by history. It was, they understood, malignant Jew-hatred at its core, driven by a millenniums-old sickness from which Europe would never recover.

The 20th century was to have been the century of reason, of banishing ancient hatreds. But when the Kishinev poison was unleashed with the new century already under way (they had no inkling, of course, of how horrific the century would become), they knew they needed to flee.

At the Sixth Zionist Congress in 1903, Theodor Herzl, the father of modern political Zionism, evoked Kishinev not as an event, but as a condition. “Kishinev exists wherever … [Jews’] self-respect is injured and their property despoiled because they are Jews. Let us save those who can still be saved!” The Jews, he insisted, needed a state of their own.

He was not the first to say this. When the assassination of Czar Alexander II in 1881 unleashed a similar burst of murderous anti-Jewish violence, an earlier Zionist, Yehuda Leib Pinsker, wrote that “the misfortunes of the Jews are due, above all, to their lack of desire for national independence; … if they do not wish to exist forever in a disgraceful state … they must become a nation.” As long as the Jew was landless and stateless, Pinsker argued as Herzl would once again a decade and a half later, the Jew would persist in a “disgraceful state.” He, too, argued that there was no choice -- the Jews needed to flee Europe.

So flee they did, by the many millions. Most went to America, but some newly committed Zionists went to Palestine where they hoped to build a nation-state for the Jews. The Italians had Italy, the Poles had Poland and the Germans had Germany. Each had a language, a history, a culture. So, too, did the Jews; what they lacked was a state, and the price of that statelessness, they believed, was Kishinev.

The Jewish State was supposed to put a stop to those images. Yes, a tragic and bloody conflict over land erupted, but Jews -- later called Israelis -- believed the conflict could be resolved. Israel would sign treaties with its Arab neighbors, sometimes giving up land (as with the Sinai Desert in the case of Egypt) and sometimes not (since Jordan essentially required no meaningful territorial concession). When Palestinian nationalism emerged and then became the world’s darling, left and centrist Israelis remained unfazed. This was a conflict over territory, they reasoned; when the Palestinians were ready to live side by side, Israel would cede more land, and the conflict would be over.

But the images of Jewish bodies hacked to death on a blood-soaked synagogue floor are about a hatred too deep to be assuaged by territorial concessions. Those images tell Israelis that although they fled Europe and have built their national home, they are still assailed by the same venomous loathing they had sought to escape.

This time, 7 million Jewish Israelis have nowhere to run. To where would they go?

While Hamas has praised the butchery and Palestinians have celebrated by handing out candies to children and posing with hatchets and photographs of the killers, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has called for restraint, urging Jews not to take the law into their own hands.

Yet while Netanyahu seeks restraint on the part of private Israelis, he is unlikely to show restraint himself. For if this horror cannot be stopped, the fundamental premise of Zionism and the promises that it bore for the Jewish people -- that the butchery was over -- will be upended. And no Israeli prime minister can willingly allow that to happen on his or her watch.
 
If killing 3 Jews is a massacre. What do you call the murder of over 1,000 innocent civilians in Gaza?

False comparison and garbage again. What do you call all the Afghanis that died when US attacked the terrorist group in control of that country? The same thing that you would call the deaths in Gaza, majority of which were terrorists and combatants. If Palestinians don't like these operations, then they should stop shooting rockets into Israeli cities and building terror tunnels.

But for you to compare casualties in a war, to what these two Palestinian animals did in that synagogue, followed by celebrations by the Palestinians in the streets, tell us that you are pure scum.
 
THE TWO FACES OF TERRORISM IN ISRAEL
There was a massacre in Jerusalem on Tuesday in which five Israelis were killed. There was a war in Gaza over the summer in which 2,200 Palestinians were killed, most of them civilians. A massacre shocks us; a war, less so. Massacres have culprits; wars don’t. Murder by ax is more appalling than murder by rifle, and far more horrendous than bombing helpless people trying to take shelter.

Terror is always Palestinian, even when hundreds of Palestinian civilians are killed. The name and face of Daniel Tragerman, the Israeli boy killed by mortar fire during Operation Protective Edge, were known throughout the world; even U.S. President Barack Obama knew his name. Can anyone name one child from Gaza among the hundreds killed?

A few hours after the attack in Jerusalem, journalist Emily Amrousi said at a conference in Eilat that the life of a single Jewish child was more important to her than the lives of thousands of Palestinian children. The audience’s response was clearly favorable; I think there was even some applause.
THE TWO FACES OF TERRORISM IN ISRAEL Desertpeace
 
THE TWO FACES OF TERRORISM IN ISRAEL
There was a massacre in Jerusalem on Tuesday in which five Israelis were killed. There was a war in Gaza over the summer in which 2,200 Palestinians were killed, most of them civilians. A massacre shocks us; a war, less so. Massacres have culprits; wars don’t. Murder by ax is more appalling than murder by rifle, and far more horrendous than bombing helpless people trying to take shelter.

Terror is always Palestinian, even when hundreds of Palestinian civilians are killed. The name and face of Daniel Tragerman, the Israeli boy killed by mortar fire during Operation Protective Edge, were known throughout the world; even U.S. President Barack Obama knew his name. Can anyone name one child from Gaza among the hundreds killed?

A few hours after the attack in Jerusalem, journalist Emily Amrousi said at a conference in Eilat that the life of a single Jewish child was more important to her than the lives of thousands of Palestinian children. The audience’s response was clearly favorable; I think there was even some applause.
THE TWO FACES OF TERRORISM IN ISRAEL Desertpeace

Wow, you direct us to a propaganda website.

Yes, terror is always Palestinian, their ******* leadership are a designated terrorist organization in the US, dumbass!
 
Israeli deaths touch Israeli hearts more than the deaths of others. That’s natural human solidarity. The bloody images from Jerusalem stunned every Israeli, probably every person.


But this is a society that sanctifies its dead to the point of death-worship, that wears thin the stories of the victims’ lives and deaths, whether it be in a synagogue attack or a Nepal avalanche. It’s a society preoccupied with endless commemorations in the land of monuments, services and anniversary ceremonies; a society that demands shock and condemnation after every attack, when it blames the entire world.


Precisely from such a society is one permitted to demand some attention to the Palestinian blood that is also spilled in vain; some understanding of the other side’s pain, or even a measure of empathy, which in Israel is considered treason.


But this doesn’t happen. Aside from exceptional murders and hate crimes by individuals, there is total apathy — and the obtuseness is frightening. Killings (we dare not say murders) by soldiers and policemen will never shock Israel. The propaganda machine will whitewash everything, and the media will be its mouthpiece. No one will demand condemnations. No one will express shock. Few will even consider that the pain is the same pain, that murder is murde
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There was a time when the Israeli leadership where a designated terrorist organization
 
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There was a time when the Israeli leadership where a designated terrorist organization
There was a time when todays grandmothers were virgins. You want to discuss that irrelevant topic as well? Ha ha.
 
If killing 3 Jews is a massacre. What do you call the murder of over 1,000 innocent civilians in Gaza?

It is not the number of dead but where and who was butchered.
The rabbis were not just shot or blown up by a bomb but hacked with knives and an axe. This was up close and personal attack. This was not random violence from outside, the palestinians enter a house of worship with the intent of murder.
This is not about number of collateral victims in a war this was far more insidious aimed at the jewish faith and all faith in general.

So killing 400-500 non-Jewish children with bombs is ok, but killing three Jews with knives is not ok. I get it.
 
When you bomb schools there is nothing collateral about hundreds of children's deaths.
 
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