Zone1 People who tell you that you can't mix politics and religion

[JoeB131]

I hope you're not so ignorant to believe that just because he was born into Catholicism and may have used religious rhetoric for his own self-serving political purposes that that means anything. He was obviously not a Christian. Reportedly, his spiritual views were Occultic.

Ah, you are applying the "No True Scotsman" fallacy again.

 

[ding]

Yes, all the state sponsored religious practices were ended because of the constitution.

Is that not true from your graph.

Incorrect. Why don't you actually read the words from that link and get back to me.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

There is a difference. A lot of non Christians expect Christians to have no opinion other than a Biblical perspective. But, political decisions effect us all, and all should be involved. On the one hand the IRS forbids churches and charities to become politically involved. On the other hand, as Christian citizens, it is our job to stand up for our moral standards.

The IRS is wrong. It is THEY who have no business telling Churches what they can and cannot involve themselves in

 

[JoeB131]

The IRS is wrong. It is THEY who have no business telling Churches what they can and cannot involve themselves in

Then they shouldn't get a tax exemption for being a non-profit if they are involved in politics.

Frankly, I'd like to see the churches subject to the consumer fraud laws. If you promise Granny that her cancer will get better if she prays a lot and she died, you should be able to sue.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Wait, didn't Jesus say "My Kingdom is part of this World, so seize earthly political power and lord over and dominate every body else"?

Paul understood, we (Christians) have DUAL citizenship

I understand the wicked of this world so not want Christian CITIZENS to participate in our national elections, but you don't have a say. Personally, I don't think liberals have the sanity or moral foundation to participate

 

[Bezukhov]

Paul understood, we (Christians) have DUAL citizenship

I understand the wicked of this world so not want Christian CITIZENS to participate in our national elections, but you don't have a say. Personally, I don't think liberals have the sanity or moral foundation to participate

Oh, so that's how Jesus is going to estsblish His Kingdom on earth. Christians are going to vote it in. Learn something new every day.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Oh, so that's how Jesus is going to estsblish His Kingdom on earth. Christians are going to vote it in. Learn something new every day.

with God all things are possible.

you know.. even assassination attempts can be used by Him

 

[Bezukhov]

with God all things are possible.

you know.. even assassination attempts can be used by Him

Are successful assassination attempts used by Him as well? Is He the one putting out the contract?

 

[BreezeWood]

No, i speak facts. Satan is the ruler of this world.

and breezewood posts..

oh -

fork tries to convince themself being a christian is a means not to be evil when the very religion, bible they worship is written by the crucifiers and have been persecuting and victimizing the innocent since that time the 4th century to the present day for which they themselves are now complicit in their crimes knowing full well their true objectives.

the issue is all three desert religion are the same - false commandments used to persecute and victimize the innocent. where mythical satan rules the world ...

- the difference is the 1st century events, repudiation of judaism, the teachings made by jesus, liberation theology, self determination the original heavenly religion of antiquity as the true means for admission by the free spirit to the everlasting - that was redacted by the crucifiers when writing their christian bible.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Are successful assassination attempts used by Him as well? Is He the one putting out the contract?

God lets men do what they choose.

 

[kjw47]

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the issue is all three desert religion are the same - false commandments used to persecute and victimize the innocent. where mythical satan rules the world ...

- the difference is the 1st century events, repudiation of judaism, the teachings made by jesus, liberation theology, self determination the original heavenly religion of antiquity as the true means for admission by the free spirit to the everlasting - that was redacted by the crucifiers when writing their christian bible.

Imagine that. The crucifiers didn't write the bible. The apostles did and Paul. Righteous men chosen by God wrote the OT. God wrote the bible through holy spirit, through righteous men. I must give you though that the crucifiers altered Gods word by satans will to mislead.

 

[otto105]

God lets men do what they choose.

And the women/girls need to be regulated.

 

[initforme]

Roe has been overturned. Issue solvef

 

[otto105]

Roe has been overturned. Issue solvef

Yup, and the republic has lost every federal level election and state ballots since.

 

[BreezeWood]

Imagine that. The crucifiers didn't write the bible. The apostles did and Paul. Righteous men chosen by God wrote the OT. God wrote the bible through holy spirit, through righteous men. I must give you though that the crucifiers altered Gods word by satans will to mislead.

the 1st century events by those that gave their lives is the repudiation of judaism, moses their false commandments, abraham hereditary idolatry - et al ... the reason for the 1st century climatic last scene to insure the true resurrections failure and the reversal of noahs heavenly salvation.

no apostle wrote the christian bible in the 4th century that was written by the contemporaries of the crucifiers who denied jesus their role in shaping the original religion of antiquity, liberation theology, self determination by crucifying them and instead writing their own version of judaism, the religion of servitude and denial.

and those that perpetuate the desert crimes - k47.

 

[surada]

he stopped stem cell research that involved aborted baby parts

He also told Chirac he was fighting Gog and Magog. Lol

 

[Mashmont]

Notice how it is usually liberals who tell you this?

Yeh.. nuff said?

But I'll say a little more anyhow.

When the system we live in stops advocating the murder of innocent children, maybe I'll consider ditching politics, so called.

When the govt stops breaking the law, while expecting the little people to obey EVERY jot and tittle thereof.. You know, the Border laws, specifically

Maybe I will think abut ditching Politics, so called.

Then again, there may always be immorality in govt..

do ya think

Allowing abortion is a godless atheist law.

This is exactly why it is impossible to separate church and state. And it's why I have long advocated repeal of the part of the First Amendment that says the state shall establish no religion., because it already has: the religion of atheism. When religion is banned, then atheism is the default, and as we have seen, atheism is a disaster whenever it is applied.

 

[surada]

Allowing abortion is a godless atheist law.

This is exactly why it is impossible to separate church and state. And it's why I have long advocated repeal of the part of the First Amendment that says the state shall establish no religion., because it already has: the religion of atheism. When religion is banned, then atheism is the default, and as we have seen, atheism is a disaster whenever it is applied.

Jesus said " Render unto Caesar..." He certainly wasn't political. Don't you remember the sermon on the mount? He was advocating passive resistance to Roman occupation.

 

[BreezeWood]

Allowing abortion is a godless atheist law.

the heavenly exemplars of the 1st century, jesus repudiated the prevailing religion of servitude and denial as the false commandments claimed by the liar moses for the heavenly religion of self determination, liberation theology for their final judgment and admission to the everlasting, contraception is no different than abortion and is the consideration of the heavenly garden than individual prejudices.

 

[surada]

Paul understood, we (Christians) have DUAL citizenship

I understand the wicked of this world so not want Christian CITIZENS to participate in our national elections, but you don't have a say. Personally, I don't think liberals have the sanity or moral foundation to participate

Jesus responds to Pontius Pilate about the nature of his kingdom: "My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews.

But now (or 'as it is') my kingdom is not from the world" (John 18:36); i.e., his religious teachings were separate from earthly political activity.

This reflects a traditional division in Christian thought by which state and church have separate spheres of influence.

This can be interpreted either a Catholic, or Thomist, way (Gelasian doctrine) or a Protestant, or Lockean, way (separation of church and state).