Palestinians want more then the " 67 borders"

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Palestinians Want an Even Bigger State Than the 1967 Borders


Sep. 27, 2011 12:46am Sharona Schwartz



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When the Palestinians presented their bid for statehood at the UN Friday, most news outlets suggested Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas was aiming for a state based on 1967 borders covering only the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem.

A closer look at the actual letter he presented to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon applying for UN membership reveals the Palestinians are aiming for far more territory.

As reprinted in the Telegraph, Abbas’s letter reads:


“This application for membership is being submitted on the Palestinian people’s natural, legal and historic rights and based on United Nations General Assembly resolution 181 (II) of 29 November 1947 as well as the Declaration of Independence of the State of Palestine of 15 November 1988 and the acknowledgement by the General Assembly of this declaration in resolution 43/177 of 15 December 1988.”

Lots of dates are cited here. Let’s take a closer look. Abbas says his people’s “rights” are based on the 1947 UN Resolution. That year refers to the UN Partition Plan, the same plan all Arab states rejected and the Jews accepted for their homeland, after which those Arab neighbors declared war on Israel.

These maps from GBTV reveal the land allotted to the Jewish State under the 1947 Partition Plan was in fact much smaller than that afforded under 1967 borders.


Palestinians Want Even Bigger State Than 1967 Borders

Palestinians Want Even Bigger State Than 1967 Borders

Though President Obama has endorsed Palestinian demands — stated until now — that their future state be based on 1967 borders, Israel says borders should be based on the outcome of negotiations. If Abbas’s proposal is accepted by the UN Security Council, gone from Israel is Jerusalem its capital and home to the sites most sacred to Jews and Christians. Also gone: Ben Gurion Airport just outside Tel Aviv, the country’s only major international airport.



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The blog Israel Matzav explains the significance:


“It would mean no Jerusalem and no airport. Even more indefensible borders than the 1949 armistice lines. The ‘Palestinians’ ignore Security Council Resolution 242, which requires that Israel be left with ‘defensible borders’ and says nothing about a ‘Palestinian state.’”

There are other alarming suggestions the Palestinians are not being upfront in stating their intentions regarding the size of the state they aim for.One of the sticking points in restarting negotiations with Israel is the Palestinians’ continued opposition to recognizing Israel as a Jewish State. In fact, last week a round of talks aimed at restarting peace negotiations broke up over “Abbas’ refusal to recognize Israel as a Jewish State.”

Secondly, the Palestine Liberation Organization’s current logo on its UN Observer Mission website suggests it wants the entire state of Israel incorporated into its future state – not just the West Bank and Gaza. The map on the logo appears to suggest the goal is to wipe Israel completely off the map. The Weekly Standard posted this:


They are not going to get any of it

 

[Vigilante]

Palestinian Arab nationalism is largely a post-World War I phenomenon that did not become a significant political movement until after the 1967 Six-Day War and Israel's capture of the West Bank.There has never been a civilization or a nation referred to as "Palestine" and the very notion of a "Palestinian Arab nation" having ancient attachments to the Holy Land going back to time immemorial is one of the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated upon the world! There is not, nor has there ever been, a distinct "Palestinian" culture or language. Further, there has never been a Palestinian state governed BY Arab Palestinians in history, nor was there ever a serious Arab-Palestinian national movement until 1964... three years BEFORE the Arabs of "Palestine" lost the West Bank [Judea and Samaria] and Gaza as a result of the 1967 Six-Day War (which the Arabs instigated). Even the so-called leader of the "Palestinian" people, Yasser Arafat, was EGYPTIAN! In short, the so-called Arab "Palestinians" are a manufactured people...a people with no history and no authenticity... whose sole purpose for existence is to destroy the Jewish State!..... Know your history people, not the propaganda, this from an agnostic!

 

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Palestinians Want an Even Bigger State Than the 1967 Borders


Sep. 27, 2011 12:46am Sharona Schwartz



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When the Palestinians presented their bid for statehood at the UN Friday, most news outlets suggested Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas was aiming for a state based on 1967 borders covering only the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem.

A closer look at the actual letter he presented to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon applying for UN membership reveals the Palestinians are aiming for far more territory.

As reprinted in the Telegraph, Abbas’s letter reads:


“This application for membership is being submitted on the Palestinian people’s natural, legal and historic rights and based on United Nations General Assembly resolution 181 (II) of 29 November 1947 as well as the Declaration of Independence of the State of Palestine of 15 November 1988 and the acknowledgement by the General Assembly of this declaration in resolution 43/177 of 15 December 1988.”

Lots of dates are cited here. Let’s take a closer look. Abbas says his people’s “rights” are based on the 1947 UN Resolution. That year refers to the UN Partition Plan, the same plan all Arab states rejected and the Jews accepted for their homeland, after which those Arab neighbors declared war on Israel.

These maps from GBTV reveal the land allotted to the Jewish State under the 1947 Partition Plan was in fact much smaller than that afforded under 1967 borders.


Palestinians Want Even Bigger State Than 1967 Borders

Palestinians Want Even Bigger State Than 1967 Borders

Though President Obama has endorsed Palestinian demands — stated until now — that their future state be based on 1967 borders, Israel says borders should be based on the outcome of negotiations. If Abbas’s proposal is accepted by the UN Security Council, gone from Israel is Jerusalem its capital and home to the sites most sacred to Jews and Christians. Also gone: Ben Gurion Airport just outside Tel Aviv, the country’s only major international airport.



.
The blog Israel Matzav explains the significance:


“It would mean no Jerusalem and no airport. Even more indefensible borders than the 1949 armistice lines. The ‘Palestinians’ ignore Security Council Resolution 242, which requires that Israel be left with ‘defensible borders’ and says nothing about a ‘Palestinian state.’”

There are other alarming suggestions the Palestinians are not being upfront in stating their intentions regarding the size of the state they aim for.One of the sticking points in restarting negotiations with Israel is the Palestinians’ continued opposition to recognizing Israel as a Jewish State. In fact, last week a round of talks aimed at restarting peace negotiations broke up over “Abbas’ refusal to recognize Israel as a Jewish State.”

Secondly, the Palestine Liberation Organization’s current logo on its UN Observer Mission website suggests it wants the entire state of Israel incorporated into its future state – not just the West Bank and Gaza. The map on the logo appears to suggest the goal is to wipe Israel completely off the map. The Weekly Standard posted this:


They are not going to get any of it

Palestinians don't want '67 borders, they want the whole mandate, without any jews.

 

[Billo_Really]

Palestinians don't want '67 borders, they want the whole mandate, without any jews.

It's comments like that which shows the entire world the problem is not the Palestinian's, it's you fuckers!

The Palestinian's want the occupation to end and to be left alone.

That's it!

 

[Vigilante]

Palestinians don't want '67 borders, they want the whole mandate, without any jews.

It's comments like that which shows the entire world the problem is not the Palestinian's, it's you fuckers!

The Palestinian's want the occupation to end and to be left alone.

That's it!

I suggest you take your head out of your ass and pay attention!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESRdfPrmm7o]Muslims hate and kill Palestinian Christians.mp4 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Billo_Really]

I suggest you take your head out of your ass and pay attention!

Muslims hate and kill Palestinian Christians.mp4 - YouTube

Shove that racist propaganda video up your ass, it has nothing to do with what I said.

 

[Vigilante]

I suggest you take your head out of your ass and pay attention!

Muslims hate and kill Palestinian Christians.mp4 - YouTube

Shove that racist propaganda video up your ass, it has nothing to do with what I said.

Of course it does, shit for brains. the ******* dogs that are called Palestinians want anyone that isn't a mudslime to leave or die! They simply don't have enough land to let others alone?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestinian Arab nationalism is largely a post-World War I phenomenon that did not become a significant political movement until after the 1967 Six-Day War and Israel's capture of the West Bank.There has never been a civilization or a nation referred to as "Palestine" and the very notion of a "Palestinian Arab nation" having ancient attachments to the Holy Land going back to time immemorial is one of the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated upon the world! There is not, nor has there ever been, a distinct "Palestinian" culture or language. Further, there has never been a Palestinian state governed BY Arab Palestinians in history, nor was there ever a serious Arab-Palestinian national movement until 1964... three years BEFORE the Arabs of "Palestine" lost the West Bank [Judea and Samaria] and Gaza as a result of the 1967 Six-Day War (which the Arabs instigated). Even the so-called leader of the "Palestinian" people, Yasser Arafat, was EGYPTIAN! In short, the so-called Arab "Palestinians" are a manufactured people...a people with no history and no authenticity... whose sole purpose for existence is to destroy the Jewish State!..... Know your history people, not the propaganda, this from an agnostic!

The status of Palestine and the nationality of its inhabitants were finally settled by the Treaty of Lausanne from the perspective of public international law. In a report submitted to the League of Nations, the British government pointed out: “The ratification of the Treaty of Lausanne in Aug., 1924, finally regularised the international status of Palestine.”*123 And, thereafter, “Palestine could, at last, obtain a separate nationality.”*124

*123 British Government, Report on the Administration under Mandate of Palestine, 1924, p. 6.

*124 Norman Bentwich, England in Palestine (London: The Mayflower Press, 1932), p. 106.

Genesis of Citizenship in Palestine and Israel

 

[Phoenall]

Palestinians don't want '67 borders, they want the whole mandate, without any jews.

It's comments like that which shows the entire world the problem is not the Palestinian's, it's you fuckers!

The Palestinian's want the occupation to end and to be left alone.

That's it!

If that is all they wanted they should apply the Oslo accords and stop all belligerence. But they have stated that they want every Jew in Palestine dead and the land of Israel to be theirs. Enshrined in their charters.

 

[Phoenall]

Palestinian Arab nationalism is largely a post-World War I phenomenon that did not become a significant political movement until after the 1967 Six-Day War and Israel's capture of the West Bank.There has never been a civilization or a nation referred to as "Palestine" and the very notion of a "Palestinian Arab nation" having ancient attachments to the Holy Land going back to time immemorial is one of the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated upon the world! There is not, nor has there ever been, a distinct "Palestinian" culture or language. Further, there has never been a Palestinian state governed BY Arab Palestinians in history, nor was there ever a serious Arab-Palestinian national movement until 1964... three years BEFORE the Arabs of "Palestine" lost the West Bank [Judea and Samaria] and Gaza as a result of the 1967 Six-Day War (which the Arabs instigated). Even the so-called leader of the "Palestinian" people, Yasser Arafat, was EGYPTIAN! In short, the so-called Arab "Palestinians" are a manufactured people...a people with no history and no authenticity... whose sole purpose for existence is to destroy the Jewish State!..... Know your history people, not the propaganda, this from an agnostic!

The status of Palestine and the nationality of its inhabitants were finally settled by the Treaty of Lausanne from the perspective of public international law. In a report submitted to the League of Nations, the British government pointed out: “The ratification of the Treaty of Lausanne in Aug., 1924, finally regularised the international status of Palestine.”*123 And, thereafter, “Palestine could, at last, obtain a separate nationality.”*124

*123 British Government, Report on the Administration under Mandate of Palestine, 1924, p. 6.

*124 Norman Bentwich, England in Palestine (London: The Mayflower Press, 1932), p. 106.

Genesis of Citizenship in Palestine and Israel

Which does not mention Palestine at all does it, nor does it mention the Palestinians. But the San Remo conference does and it states that the land is set aside for a Jewish homeland. This is enshrined in INTERNATIONAL LAW and is actually recognised by the UN as such. Take a look at article 80 of the UN charter.

 

[Victory67]

Which does not mention Palestine at all does it, nor does it mention the Palestinians. But the San Remo conference does and it states that the land is set aside for a Jewish homeland. This is enshrined in INTERNATIONAL LAW and is actually recognised by the UN as such. Take a look at article 80 of the UN charter.

The UN does not recognize all of Palestine as belonging to the Jews. Stop lying, in NaZIONist fashion.

The UN decided to partition Palestine, and Israel accepted this decision.

The UN decided to recognize Israel within the 1949 armistice lines, and Israel accepted this decision.

Its now settled.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Wrong. Israel cannot go back to 67 borders nor would she ever agree to that. It would be suicide. You already know that though, Victory67. Isn't that the premise of your avatar? Push Israel back to pre - 1967 borders and the arabs will have a certain victory?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestinian Arab nationalism is largely a post-World War I phenomenon that did not become a significant political movement until after the 1967 Six-Day War and Israel's capture of the West Bank.There has never been a civilization or a nation referred to as "Palestine" and the very notion of a "Palestinian Arab nation" having ancient attachments to the Holy Land going back to time immemorial is one of the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated upon the world! There is not, nor has there ever been, a distinct "Palestinian" culture or language. Further, there has never been a Palestinian state governed BY Arab Palestinians in history, nor was there ever a serious Arab-Palestinian national movement until 1964... three years BEFORE the Arabs of "Palestine" lost the West Bank [Judea and Samaria] and Gaza as a result of the 1967 Six-Day War (which the Arabs instigated). Even the so-called leader of the "Palestinian" people, Yasser Arafat, was EGYPTIAN! In short, the so-called Arab "Palestinians" are a manufactured people...a people with no history and no authenticity... whose sole purpose for existence is to destroy the Jewish State!..... Know your history people, not the propaganda, this from an agnostic!

The status of Palestine and the nationality of its inhabitants were finally settled by the Treaty of Lausanne from the perspective of public international law. In a report submitted to the League of Nations, the British government pointed out: “The ratification of the Treaty of Lausanne in Aug., 1924, finally regularised the international status of Palestine.”*123 And, thereafter, “Palestine could, at last, obtain a separate nationality.”*124

*123 British Government, Report on the Administration under Mandate of Palestine, 1924, p. 6.

*124 Norman Bentwich, England in Palestine (London: The Mayflower Press, 1932), p. 106.

Genesis of Citizenship in Palestine and Israel

Which does not mention Palestine at all does it, nor does it mention the Palestinians. But the San Remo conference does and it states that the land is set aside for a Jewish homeland. This is enshrined in INTERNATIONAL LAW and is actually recognised by the UN as such. Take a look at article 80 of the UN charter.

Quote the part of San Remo the gives the Jews the exclusive rights to Palestine.

 

[toastman]

Palestinians don't want '67 borders, they want the whole mandate, without any jews.

It's comments like that which shows the entire world the problem is not the Palestinian's, it's you fuckers!

The Palestinian's want the occupation to end and to be left alone.

That's it!

Some of them do . But Hamas, Islamic Jihad, other smaller Jihad groups and every other extremist Palestinian dont wang a peace deal with Israel. They want all the pand between the river and the sea. In fact, Hamas confired their position again yesterday.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestinians don't want '67 borders, they want the whole mandate, without any jews.

It's comments like that which shows the entire world the problem is not the Palestinian's, it's you fuckers!

The Palestinian's want the occupation to end and to be left alone.

That's it!

Some of them do . But Hamas, Islamic Jihad, other smaller Jihad groups and every other extremist Palestinian dont wang a peace deal with Israel. They want all the pand between the river and the sea. In fact, Hamas confired their position again yesterday.

A "deal" is something you get from a used car salesman.

 

[toastman]

It's comments like that which shows the entire world the problem is not the Palestinian's, it's you fuckers!

The Palestinian's want the occupation to end and to be left alone.

That's it!

Some of them do . But Hamas, Islamic Jihad, other smaller Jihad groups and every other extremist Palestinian dont wang a peace deal with Israel. They want all the pand between the river and the sea. In fact, Hamas confired their position again yesterday.

A "deal" is something you get from a used car salesman.

My bad I meant to say a peace treaty.

 

[natstew]

Palestinians don't want '67 borders, they want the whole mandate, without any jews.

It's comments like that which shows the entire world the problem is not the Palestinian's, it's you fuckers!

The Palestinian's want the occupation to end and to be left alone.

That's it!

They've been offered that and much more and they always turn it down.
You are an idiot, go away!

 

[proudveteran06]

Palestinians don't want '67 borders, they want the whole mandate, without any jews.

It's comments like that which shows the entire world the problem is not the Palestinian's, it's you fuckers!

The Palestinian's want the occupation to end and to be left alone.

That's it!

Israel is never going to go back to Borders that were NEVER accepted in the first place, Give up E. Jerusalem with no rights to it, or allow " Right of Return" All they had to do was not initiate the 67 War. Get it YOU MOTHER ******!

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Palestinians don't want '67 borders, they want the whole mandate, without any jews.

It's comments like that which shows the entire world the problem is not the Palestinian's, it's you fuckers!

The Palestinian's want the occupation to end and to be left alone.

That's it!

They've been offered that and much more and they always turn it down.
You are an idiot, go away!

Of all the Palestinian supporters on this Board, Billo has the least realistic grip on the situation. Also, he thinks he has won an argument if he's somehow able to say "**** you" 75x in one sentence.

 

[proudveteran06]

Palestinians don't want '67 borders, they want the whole mandate, without any jews.

It's comments like that which shows the entire world the problem is not the Palestinian's, it's you fuckers!

The Palestinian's want the occupation to end and to be left alone.

That's it!

I suggest you take your head out of your ass and pay attention!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESRdfPrmm7o]Muslims hate and kill Palestinian Christians.mp4 - YouTube[/ame]

THANKS ! There are posters on this thread who do not condemn actions like these and one of them is a Palestinian

Doesn't surprise me