Palestine Today

[Hollie]

I could (for the benefit of our many prop-Arab Palestinians viewers) cite the various Customary and International Humanitarian Laws (IHL) that the Arab Palestinians violated;

Why don't you pull one of those out for discussion?

Do you have a collection of YouTube videos which will be your part of the discussion?

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

Egyptian defensive border wall.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, Shusha, et al,

Well, since you cut out "Customary IHL" in your response, let's take a cross-section of half dozen:

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I could (for the benefit of our many prop-Arab Palestinians viewers) cite the various Customary and International Humanitarian Laws (IHL) that the Arab Palestinians violated;

Why don't you pull one of those out for discussion?

Oh please. Pick one and the Arab Palestinians have violated.

(COMMENT)

✪ Rule #10 In the last five years, the Palestinians have fired well over 13,000 rockets and mortars rounds into Israel. Usually, this charge pairs-up to Rules #11 (Indiscriminate Attacks) and #21 (Target Selection). But I thought we should just lump them all together for the sake of brevity.

✪ Rule #23 Separate form firing the Rockets and Mortars Rounds, the Arab Palestinians intentionally select locations launch sites, command and control sites, and infiltration entrance sites within urban and residential areas, using the civilians as cover and concealment; placing civilian lives in harm's way.

✪ Rule #24 Separate from using the civilians as cover and concealment (Rule #23 supra), the Arab Palestinians actively use civilians as a means to intentionally create casualties for propaganda purposes, and purposefully leave civilians in the vicinity legitimate military targets and refuse to do everything feasible in the evacuation of the civilian population from the vicinity of military objective.

✪ Rule #84 Separate from the over 200 Rockets fired into Israel in recent months, over 7000 acres have been set ablaze by Arab Palestinian incendiary kites under the cover of civilians.

✪ Rule #89 Whether we talk about the Coastal Road massacre (the Dalal Mughrabi incident), the Olympic Massacre (the Munch Incident), the Beit Lid massacre, the First Jerusalem bus 18 suicide bombing, or the 2016 Jerusalem bus bombing, the "unlawful and intentional use of explosives and other lethal devices in, into, or against various defined public places with intent to kill or cause serious bodily injury, or with intent to cause extensive destruction of the public place.

✪ Rule #97 Whether it be the Arab Palestinian policy to use the civilian population to (outright) create border incidents, which has been seen in the last few months, or to use as cover and concealment of insurgent operations, or the Improper use other than that for which the identification of medical and religious personnel, media/press, medical units and medical transports to hide rockets, to move insurgent operators, as well as misuse of such personnel and property of the Red Cross and Red Crescent → it is all a war crime.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This "Wall of Shame" video is pure and unadulterated propaganda; the purpose of which is to intentionally spread hatred, mislead the viewer and draw on the sympathy from the audience. It has nothing to do with the truth.

Video cut-out

(COMMENT)

The border security barrier has nothing to do with "apartheid."

Every country has the right to protect its borders (sovereign integrity) under international law. It is just that simple.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This "Wall of Shame" video is pure and unadulterated propaganda; the purpose of which is to intentionally spread hatred, mislead the viewer and draw on the sympathy from the audience. It has nothing to do with the truth.

Video cut-out

(COMMENT)

The border security barrier has nothing to do with "apartheid."

Every country has the right to protect its borders (sovereign integrity) under international law. It is just that simple.

Most Respectfully,
R

In case you haven't noticed, the wall is not on Israel's fake borders. (the green line) It runs deep into the West Bank cutting farmers off from their land and putting them into little prisons frequently called bantustans.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm not sure what your definition of "fake border" is... I don't think Israel has a fake border. Whether you like it (the boundary) or not, the REAL Border is anywhere Israel enforces it sovereignty.

In case you haven't noticed, the wall is not on Israel's fake borders. (the green line) It runs deep into the West Bank cutting farmers off from their land and putting them into little prisons frequently called bantustans.

(COMMENT)

A couple points that need to be faced...

Isreal is not likely to forfeit any territory it now controls if that territory/land compromises the defense of Israeli sovereignty → if placed in the hands of Hostile Arab Palestinians. I doubt that anyone in theirright mind would consider the Arab Palestinian Leadership honorable and trustworthy today; let alone in the future.

Armistice Lines are not absolute final lines for borders; no matter what the Arab Palestinians want to believe.

There is no agreement between Israel and the Arab Palestinians on matters of Armistice Lines or Borders. The Arab Palestinians have not entered into any negotiation in good faith. The Arab Palestinians have declined to particpate in any meaningful negotiations.​

The once the matter of peace and borders are resolved (the holdup being the Arab Palestinians), the solution to any nationality or citizenship issues will also fall out as a consequence.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Shusha]

In case you haven't noticed, the wall is not on Israel's fake borders. (the green line) It runs deep into the West Bank cutting farmers off from their land and putting them into little prisons frequently called bantustans.

Newsflash -- Israel is permitted to defend herself wherever she needs to defend her territory and her citizens. Matters not one bit if Arabs think its 'their" land. If you attack Israel, if you incite attacks against Israel, if you threaten to harm her citizens -- she is going to defend herself. As she should. Arabs should be grateful its just a wall.

Don't like it? Stop attacking Israel. Easy peasy.

 

[Shusha]

Israel is not likely to forfeit any territory it now controls if that territory/land compromises the defense of Israeli sovereignty → if placed in the hands of Hostile Arab Palestinians.

Let's look at end games for Hostile Arabs Palestinians here:

1. They break themselves militarily on the impenetrable fortress which is Israel.
2. They ruin themselves economically in the face of Israel's high tech machine and international savvy.
3. They miraculously convince other Arab nations to (again) invade and try to conquer Israel and the entire ME is wiped out and start again.

Good heavens! Are you still trying to win?!

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, Shusha, et al,

Well, since you cut out "Customary IHL" in your response, let's take a cross-section of half dozen:

View attachment 213800
​

I could (for the benefit of our many prop-Arab Palestinians viewers) cite the various Customary and International Humanitarian Laws (IHL) that the Arab Palestinians violated;

Why don't you pull one of those out for discussion?

Oh please. Pick one and the Arab Palestinians have violated.

(COMMENT)

✪ Rule #10 In the last five years, the Palestinians have fired well over 13,000 rockets and mortars rounds into Israel. Usually, this charge pairs-up to Rules #11 (Indiscriminate Attacks) and #21 (Target Selection). But I thought we should just lump them all together for the sake of brevity.

✪ Rule #23 Separate form firing the Rockets and Mortars Rounds, the Arab Palestinians intentionally select locations launch sites, command and control sites, and infiltration entrance sites within urban and residential areas, using the civilians as cover and concealment; placing civilian lives in harm's way.

✪ Rule #24 Separate from using the civilians as cover and concealment (Rule #23 supra), the Arab Palestinians actively use civilians as a means to intentionally create casualties for propaganda purposes, and purposefully leave civilians in the vicinity legitimate military targets and refuse to do everything feasible in the evacuation of the civilian population from the vicinity of military objective.

✪ Rule #84 Separate from the over 200 Rockets fired into Israel in recent months, over 7000 acres have been set ablaze by Arab Palestinian incendiary kites under the cover of civilians.

✪ Rule #89 Whether we talk about the Coastal Road massacre (the Dalal Mughrabi incident), the Olympic Massacre (the Munch Incident), the Beit Lid massacre, the First Jerusalem bus 18 suicide bombing, or the 2016 Jerusalem bus bombing, the "unlawful and intentional use of explosives and other lethal devices in, into, or against various defined public places with intent to kill or cause serious bodily injury, or with intent to cause extensive destruction of the public place.

✪ Rule #97 Whether it be the Arab Palestinian policy to use the civilian population to (outright) create border incidents, which has been seen in the last few months, or to use as cover and concealment of insurgent operations, or the Improper use other than that for which the identification of medical and religious personnel, media/press, medical units and medical transports to hide rockets, to move insurgent operators, as well as misuse of such personnel and property of the Red Cross and Red Crescent → it is all a war crime.

Most Respectfully,
R

Most of your post is based on BS Israeli talking points.

That said.

Israel has killed Palestinians by the thousands. It has maied Palestinians by the thousands. It has expelled Palestinians by the thousands. It has destroyed homes by the thousands. It destroys economic infrastructures.

Yet the Palestinians response is expected to be pristine.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Rarely is it the case that the building of a nation is not accomplished without pain, suffering and sacrifice. And I cannot think of a nation (of consequence) that did not go through the cycle of blood. Looking at the G-8 Nations (France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom, Japan, the United States, Canada, and Russia), all of these nations went through a struggle (albeit Canada probably the least), a couple having been destroyed and reengineered a couple of times before they came to the formation you see today.

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, Shusha, et al,

Well, since you cut out "Customary IHL" in your response, let's take a cross-section of half dozen:

View attachment 213800
​

I could (for the benefit of our many prop-Arab Palestinians viewers) cite the various Customary and International Humanitarian Laws (IHL) that the Arab Palestinians violated;

Why don't you pull one of those out for discussion?

Oh please. Pick one and the Arab Palestinians have violated.

(COMMENT)

✪ Rule #10 In the last five years, the Palestinians have fired well over 13,000 rockets and mortars rounds into Israel. Usually, this charge pairs-up to Rules #11 (Indiscriminate Attacks) and #21 (Target Selection). But I thought we should just lump them all together for the sake of brevity.

✪ Rule #23 Separate form firing the Rockets and Mortars Rounds, the Arab Palestinians intentionally select locations launch sites, command and control sites, and infiltration entrance sites within urban and residential areas, using the civilians as cover and concealment; placing civilian lives in harm's way.

✪ Rule #24 Separate from using the civilians as cover and concealment (Rule #23 supra), the Arab Palestinians actively use civilians as a means to intentionally create casualties for propaganda purposes, and purposefully leave civilians in the vicinity legitimate military targets and refuse to do everything feasible in the evacuation of the civilian population from the vicinity of military objective.

✪ Rule #84 Separate from the over 200 Rockets fired into Israel in recent months, over 7000 acres have been set ablaze by Arab Palestinian incendiary kites under the cover of civilians.

✪ Rule #89 Whether we talk about the Coastal Road massacre (the Dalal Mughrabi incident), the Olympic Massacre (the Munch Incident), the Beit Lid massacre, the First Jerusalem bus 18 suicide bombing, or the 2016 Jerusalem bus bombing, the "unlawful and intentional use of explosives and other lethal devices in, into, or against various defined public places with intent to kill or cause serious bodily injury, or with intent to cause extensive destruction of the public place.

✪ Rule #97 Whether it be the Arab Palestinian policy to use the civilian population to (outright) create border incidents, which has been seen in the last few months, or to use as cover and concealment of insurgent operations, or the Improper use other than that for which the identification of medical and religious personnel, media/press, medical units and medical transports to hide rockets, to move insurgent operators, as well as misuse of such personnel and property of the Red Cross and Red Crescent → it is all a war crime.

Most Respectfully,
R

Most of your post is based on BS Israeli talking points.

That said.

Israel has killed Palestinians by the thousands. It has maied Palestinians by the thousands. It has expelled Palestinians by the thousands. It has destroyed homes by the thousands. It destroys economic infrastructures.

Yet the Palestinians response is expected to be pristine.

(COMMENT)

I find it rather naive that the Arab Palestinians would expect a country on a Silver Platter. I wonder just how many Arabs have died, how much blood has been spilled, to shape the Middle East the way it looks today?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Rarely is it the case that the building of a nation is not accomplished without pain, suffering and sacrifice. And I cannot think of a nation (of consequence) that did not go through the cycle of blood. Looking at the G-8 Nations (France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom, Japan, the United States, Canada, and Russia), all of these nations went through a struggle (albeit Canada probably the least), a couple having been destroyed and reengineered a couple of times before they came to the formation you see today.

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, Shusha, et al,

Well, since you cut out "Customary IHL" in your response, let's take a cross-section of half dozen:

View attachment 213800
​

I could (for the benefit of our many prop-Arab Palestinians viewers) cite the various Customary and International Humanitarian Laws (IHL) that the Arab Palestinians violated;

Why don't you pull one of those out for discussion?

Oh please. Pick one and the Arab Palestinians have violated.

(COMMENT)

✪ Rule #10 In the last five years, the Palestinians have fired well over 13,000 rockets and mortars rounds into Israel. Usually, this charge pairs-up to Rules #11 (Indiscriminate Attacks) and #21 (Target Selection). But I thought we should just lump them all together for the sake of brevity.

✪ Rule #23 Separate form firing the Rockets and Mortars Rounds, the Arab Palestinians intentionally select locations launch sites, command and control sites, and infiltration entrance sites within urban and residential areas, using the civilians as cover and concealment; placing civilian lives in harm's way.

✪ Rule #24 Separate from using the civilians as cover and concealment (Rule #23 supra), the Arab Palestinians actively use civilians as a means to intentionally create casualties for propaganda purposes, and purposefully leave civilians in the vicinity legitimate military targets and refuse to do everything feasible in the evacuation of the civilian population from the vicinity of military objective.

✪ Rule #84 Separate from the over 200 Rockets fired into Israel in recent months, over 7000 acres have been set ablaze by Arab Palestinian incendiary kites under the cover of civilians.

✪ Rule #89 Whether we talk about the Coastal Road massacre (the Dalal Mughrabi incident), the Olympic Massacre (the Munch Incident), the Beit Lid massacre, the First Jerusalem bus 18 suicide bombing, or the 2016 Jerusalem bus bombing, the "unlawful and intentional use of explosives and other lethal devices in, into, or against various defined public places with intent to kill or cause serious bodily injury, or with intent to cause extensive destruction of the public place.

✪ Rule #97 Whether it be the Arab Palestinian policy to use the civilian population to (outright) create border incidents, which has been seen in the last few months, or to use as cover and concealment of insurgent operations, or the Improper use other than that for which the identification of medical and religious personnel, media/press, medical units and medical transports to hide rockets, to move insurgent operators, as well as misuse of such personnel and property of the Red Cross and Red Crescent → it is all a war crime.

Most Respectfully,
R

Most of your post is based on BS Israeli talking points.

That said.

Israel has killed Palestinians by the thousands. It has maied Palestinians by the thousands. It has expelled Palestinians by the thousands. It has destroyed homes by the thousands. It destroys economic infrastructures.

Yet the Palestinians response is expected to be pristine.

(COMMENT)

I find it rather naive that the Arab Palestinians would expect a country on a Silver Platter. I wonder just how many Arabs have died, how much blood has been spilled, to shape the Middle East the way it looks today?

Most Respectfully,
R

WTF

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Hamas pimp posts again.

 

[Hollie]

The Hamas pimp posts again.

As usual, you're not making sense.

 

[Hollie]

A look into the gaping maw of the Arab-Moslem Death Cult

 

[member]

A look into the gaping maw of the Arab-Moslem Death Cult

around and around we go.......................​

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....I VOTE for:

Inviting Khalil



and his.... cabinet members..........

..... to the White House....hey, the President has met with UN and PUTIN - what's one (or 2) more tyrants to try and broker a deal with............



Khalil.....abbasssssssssssss.....



welcome!

what's with the kite bombs ? how about we ...help build up your beachfront property?





whadda say Khalil....?

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestinians - Always under attack by foreign troops.