Palestine Today

[P F Tinmore]

As Palestinian citizens.

As the GOVERNMENT of the Palestinian citizens over a Jewish National Homeland.

The government of Israel is illegitimate. It was created by foreigners in Palestine, at the point of a gun, with the disapproval of the vast majority of the people.

 

[rylah]

She speaks out of both sides of her mouth.

She says West Jerusalem was occupied in 1948 and East Jerusalem was occupied in 1967. She considers both parts of the city to be occupied territory, that is -- Palestinian territory. She calls Jerusalem a Palestinian city.

Yet she also says that Israel can build its capital anywhere it wants -- on its own land. But if West Jerusalem is "occupied territory", isn't Tel Aviv also "occupied territory"? What land is Israel's own, in her mind?

Excellent question. The answer depends on who you ask.

She, like you, seems to think that the entire territory is "occupied". This is exactly why I say she speaks out of both sides of her mouth. She states that Israel can declare its capital anywhere it wants on its own land. She neglects to illuminate her true thoughts, which are -- Israel has no land and Israel has no right to land.

Would be better if she just spoke her truth and said that. But, of course, that would radically change international perception of the Arab Palestinian cause.

Israel has no land and Israel has no right to land.

Nobody has ever proven otherwise.

You have yet to disprove that by an act of international law sovereignty over all of the land was vested with the Jewish nation.

There You go.

There is your proof right here.

An Israeli talking point.

Call it what You want,
I have yet to see You or anyone else disprove it.

Let's see You try for once instead of trying to laugh it off and deflect.

 

[rylah]

As Palestinian citizens.

As the GOVERNMENT of the Palestinian citizens over a Jewish National Homeland.

The government of Israel is illegitimate. It was created by foreigners in Palestine, at the point of a gun, with the disapproval of the vast majority of the people.

The vast majority didn't become a majority by peaceful means.
Muslims and Christians spoke a much larger amount of foreign languages than Jews.

 

[Shusha]

As Palestinian citizens.

As the GOVERNMENT of the Palestinian citizens over a Jewish National Homeland.

The government of Israel is illegitimate. It was created by foreigners in Palestine, at the point of a gun, with the disapproval of the vast majority of the people.

It was created through the Mandates, exactly the same as Jordan, Syria, Iraq and Lebanon for a peoples with legitimate, historical rights to self-determination and sovereignty, through legal instruments.

 

[P F Tinmore]

As Palestinian citizens.

As the GOVERNMENT of the Palestinian citizens over a Jewish National Homeland.

The government of Israel is illegitimate. It was created by foreigners in Palestine, at the point of a gun, with the disapproval of the vast majority of the people.

It was created through the Mandates, exactly the same as Jordan, Syria, Iraq and Lebanon for a peoples with legitimate, historical rights to self-determination and sovereignty, through legal instruments.

The Mandate had nothing to do with it,

 

[P F Tinmore]

As Palestinian citizens.

As the GOVERNMENT of the Palestinian citizens over a Jewish National Homeland.

The government of Israel is illegitimate. It was created by foreigners in Palestine, at the point of a gun, with the disapproval of the vast majority of the people.

The vast majority didn't become a majority by peaceful means.
Muslims and Christians spoke a much larger amount of foreign languages than Jews.

Indeed, 750,000 Palestinians were kicked out before the first vote.

 

[rylah]

As Palestinian citizens.

As the GOVERNMENT of the Palestinian citizens over a Jewish National Homeland.

The government of Israel is illegitimate. It was created by foreigners in Palestine, at the point of a gun, with the disapproval of the vast majority of the people.

The vast majority didn't become a majority by peaceful means.
Muslims and Christians spoke a much larger amount of foreign languages than Jews.

Indeed, 750,000 Palestinians were kicked out before the first vote.

*In the context of a demand for a Jew-free state, mentioning votes is ridiculous.

Now let's put a kitten face, pretend that Arabs didn't start that war, that they didn't set out to murder Palestinian Jews and ruined their owns life.

 

[Shusha]

As Palestinian citizens.

As the GOVERNMENT of the Palestinian citizens over a Jewish National Homeland.

The government of Israel is illegitimate. It was created by foreigners in Palestine, at the point of a gun, with the disapproval of the vast majority of the people.

It was created through the Mandates, exactly the same as Jordan, Syria, Iraq and Lebanon for a peoples with legitimate, historical rights to self-determination and sovereignty, through legal instruments.

The Mandate had nothing to do with it,

The Mandate had everything to do with it. That was the legal instrumentation which brought all of those territories to the brink of sovereignty -- including setting the borders you defend so strongly.

 

[Shusha]

The government of Israel is illegitimate. It was created by foreigners in Palestine, at the point of a gun, with the disapproval of the vast majority of the people.

And don't give me this "point of a gun" nonsense. Peoples are permitted to resist occupation, remember?

 

[Shusha]

The government of Israel is illegitimate. It was created by foreigners in Palestine, at the point of a gun, with the disapproval of the vast majority of the people.

AND, let's remember that one of the significant points of current IHL is to ensure the rights of minorities are not trampled by majority populations -- so your argument that the Jewish people can't have an independent State because they are a minority is factually incorrect.

 

[P F Tinmore]

As Palestinian citizens.

As the GOVERNMENT of the Palestinian citizens over a Jewish National Homeland.

The government of Israel is illegitimate. It was created by foreigners in Palestine, at the point of a gun, with the disapproval of the vast majority of the people.

The vast majority didn't become a majority by peaceful means.
Muslims and Christians spoke a much larger amount of foreign languages than Jews.

Indeed, 750,000 Palestinians were kicked out before the first vote.

*In the context of a demand for a Jew-free state, mentioning votes is ridiculous.

Now let's put a kitten face, pretend that Arabs didn't start that war, that they didn't set out to murder Palestinian Jews and ruined their owns life.

Did the Palestinians go to Europe and attack the Zionists?

 

[Hollie]

As the GOVERNMENT of the Palestinian citizens over a Jewish National Homeland.

The government of Israel is illegitimate. It was created by foreigners in Palestine, at the point of a gun, with the disapproval of the vast majority of the people.

The vast majority didn't become a majority by peaceful means.
Muslims and Christians spoke a much larger amount of foreign languages than Jews.

Indeed, 750,000 Palestinians were kicked out before the first vote.

*In the context of a demand for a Jew-free state, mentioning votes is ridiculous.

Now let's put a kitten face, pretend that Arabs didn't start that war, that they didn't set out to murder Palestinian Jews and ruined their owns life.

Did the Palestinians go to Europe and attack the Zionists?

Yes. In 1972.

 

[rylah]

As the GOVERNMENT of the Palestinian citizens over a Jewish National Homeland.

The government of Israel is illegitimate. It was created by foreigners in Palestine, at the point of a gun, with the disapproval of the vast majority of the people.

The vast majority didn't become a majority by peaceful means.
Muslims and Christians spoke a much larger amount of foreign languages than Jews.

Indeed, 750,000 Palestinians were kicked out before the first vote.

*In the context of a demand for a Jew-free state, mentioning votes is ridiculous.

Now let's put a kitten face, pretend that Arabs didn't start that war, that they didn't set out to murder Palestinian Jews and ruined their owns life.

Did the Palestinians go to Europe and attack the Zionists?

YES to Europe, to Iraq, in Syria, in Palestine...ask the same question another 10 times the answer won't change.

 

[USAF 2023]

Israel has no land and Israel has no right to land.

Nobody has ever proven otherwise.

Actually, we have time and again. But we know neither you,nor she, nor a significant percentage of the Arab Palestinian people will ever accept our proof. Not because the proof is invalid (its not) but because you reject the premise.

I just wish you all would be more clear in the media and in international forums with your basic premise -- that this one people -- the Jewish people -- have no rights to land, to sovereignty, to self-determination, to independence, to a State. Then at least the world would see you as you are.

He has stated that many times. When asked why Israel should cede any of the “ 67 Borders” over to the Palestinians linking Gaza to the W.Bank and why they should have control of it there is no response.
The Palestinians don’t want to sit down and talk? There will be no Highway.

 

[USAF 2023]

As Palestinian citizens.

As the GOVERNMENT of the Palestinian citizens over a Jewish National Homeland.

Who cares what he “ thinks”?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The government of Israel is illegitimate. It was created by foreigners in Palestine, at the point of a gun, with the disapproval of the vast majority of the people.

The vast majority didn't become a majority by peaceful means.
Muslims and Christians spoke a much larger amount of foreign languages than Jews.

Indeed, 750,000 Palestinians were kicked out before the first vote.

*In the context of a demand for a Jew-free state, mentioning votes is ridiculous.

Now let's put a kitten face, pretend that Arabs didn't start that war, that they didn't set out to murder Palestinian Jews and ruined their owns life.

Did the Palestinians go to Europe and attack the Zionists?

Yes. In 1972.

You are decades too late. Not my fault you are slow.

 

[rylah]

The vast majority didn't become a majority by peaceful means.
Muslims and Christians spoke a much larger amount of foreign languages than Jews.

Indeed, 750,000 Palestinians were kicked out before the first vote.

*In the context of a demand for a Jew-free state, mentioning votes is ridiculous.

Now let's put a kitten face, pretend that Arabs didn't start that war, that they didn't set out to murder Palestinian Jews and ruined their owns life.

Did the Palestinians go to Europe and attack the Zionists?

Yes. In 1972.

You are decades too late. Not my fault you are slow.

The last resort at excusing Arab wars and pogroms, before or after 48.
Arabs are responsible for most of the property loss in this conflict.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Indeed, 750,000 Palestinians were kicked out before the first vote.

*In the context of a demand for a Jew-free state, mentioning votes is ridiculous.

Now let's put a kitten face, pretend that Arabs didn't start that war, that they didn't set out to murder Palestinian Jews and ruined their owns life.

Did the Palestinians go to Europe and attack the Zionists?

Yes. In 1972.

You are decades too late. Not my fault you are slow.

The last resort at excusing Arab wars and pogroms, before or after 48.
Arabs are responsible for most of the property loss in this conflict.

It is interesting that you think people can attack from at home.

 

[P F Tinmore]

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[rylah]

*In the context of a demand for a Jew-free state, mentioning votes is ridiculous.

Now let's put a kitten face, pretend that Arabs didn't start that war, that they didn't set out to murder Palestinian Jews and ruined their owns life.

Did the Palestinians go to Europe and attack the Zionists?

Yes. In 1972.

You are decades too late. Not my fault you are slow.

The last resort at excusing Arab wars and pogroms, before or after 48.
Arabs are responsible for most of the property loss in this conflict.

It is interesting that you think people can attack from at home.

Pogroms against Palestinian Jews were usually committed by their Arab neighbors.
What part of this is difficult for You?