Our forgotten slavery horror

[Sallow]

Our forgotten slavery horror: The shameful, untold history of America and the Cuban slave trade
As Cuba opens, it's time to recognize our proxy role in Cuba's slave trade, and the Monroe Doctrine's real purpose

Of the 12.5 million enslaved Africans who were brought to the Americas from 1501 to 1867, approximately 4 percent arrived in North America. Another 7 percent were taken to Cuba to work in what is now recognized as an “agro-industrial graveyard” of sugar and coffee production. Historians use this term for good reason: the life expectancy of enslaved Africans from the time of their arrival in Cuba was often calculated in single digits. These catastrophic mortality rates meant that Cuban slavery depended on the slave trade. Although the U.S. and England banned the slave trade in 1808, fully 85 percent (759,669) of the slaves to be transported to Cuba were brought after the U.S. ban. By this time, Americans had decided that Cuban slavery made good economic sense and were actively intensifying their participation in the regime.

After the American Revolution, the young United States was deeply in debt and on the verge of a rapid expansion of the cotton frontier. But the U.S. merchants who ran the nation’s banks and insurance companies could only provide agricultural loans with a reliable source of specie (gold and silver), and sugar and coffee to back their notes and offset trade deficits with the financial centers of Europe. If coffee, sugar and specie unlocked the doors of European and Asian markets for U.S. investors, slave ships were their key. By the early 1800s, Cuban slavery was at the center of this exchange, and American statesmen, including every U.S. president from Thomas Jefferson to John Quincy Adams, worked doggedly to protect it.


Our forgotten slavery horror: The shameful, untold history of America and the Cuban slave trade - Salon.com

 

[dannyboys]

I guess you just don't have enough class to credit other people's writing using quotation marks.
No surprise there.
On any other forum you would have been permanently banned for your behaviour. But you know this of course.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

It was over a century and half ago....good grief, let it go

 

[Obiwan]

So sue Europe and Africa..

Atlantic slave trade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Atlantic slave trade or transatlantic slave trade took place across the Atlantic Ocean from the 16th through to the 19th centuries. The vast majority of those enslaved that were transported to the New World, many on the triangular trade routeand its Middle Passage, were West Africans from the central and western parts of the continent sold by other western Africans to western European slave traders, with a small minority being captured directly by the slave traders in coastal raids, and brought to theAmericas.[1] The numbers were so great that Africans who came by way of the slave trade became the most numerous Old World immigrants in both North and South America before the late 18th century.[2] Far more slaves were taken to South America than to the north. The South Atlantic economic system centered on producing commodity crops, and making goods and clothing to sell in Europe, and increasing the numbers of African slaves brought to the New World. This was crucial to those western European countries which, in the late 17th and 18th centuries, were vying with each other to create overseas empires.[3]

The Portuguese were the first to engage in the New World slave trade in the 16th century, in 1526, and other countries soon followed.[4] Ship owners considered the slaves as cargo to be transported to the Americas as quickly and cheaply as possible,[3] there to be sold to labour in coffee, tobacco, cocoa, sugar and cottonplantations, gold and silver mines, rice fields, construction industry, cutting timber for ships, in skilled labour, and as domestic servants. The first Africans imported to theEnglish colonies were classified as "indentured servants", like workers coming from England, and also as "apprentices for life". By the middle of the 17th century, slavery had hardened as a racial caste; they and their offspring were legally the property of their owners, and children born to slave mothers were slaves. As property, the people were considered merchandise or units of labour, and were sold at markets with other goods and services.

The Atlantic slave traders, ordered by trade volume, were: the Portuguese, the British, the French, the Spanish, and the Dutch Empire. Several had established outposts on the African coast where they purchased slaves from local African leaders.[5] These slaves were managed by a factor who was established on or near the coast to expedite the shipping of slaves to the New World. These slaves were kept in a factory while awaiting shipment. Current estimates are that about 12 million Africans were shipped across the Atlantic,[6] although the number purchased by the traders is considerably higher.[7][8]

 

[SassyIrishLass]

So sue Europe and Africa..

Atlantic slave trade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Atlantic slave trade or transatlantic slave trade took place across the Atlantic Ocean from the 16th through to the 19th centuries. The vast majority of those enslaved that were transported to the New World, many on the triangular trade routeand its Middle Passage, were West Africans from the central and western parts of the continent sold by other western Africans to western European slave traders, with a small minority being captured directly by the slave traders in coastal raids, and brought to theAmericas.[1] The numbers were so great that Africans who came by way of the slave trade became the most numerous Old World immigrants in both North and South America before the late 18th century.[2] Far more slaves were taken to South America than to the north. The South Atlantic economic system centered on producing commodity crops, and making goods and clothing to sell in Europe, and increasing the numbers of African slaves brought to the New World. This was crucial to those western European countries which, in the late 17th and 18th centuries, were vying with each other to create overseas empires.[3]

The Portuguese were the first to engage in the New World slave trade in the 16th century, in 1526, and other countries soon followed.[4] Ship owners considered the slaves as cargo to be transported to the Americas as quickly and cheaply as possible,[3] there to be sold to labour in coffee, tobacco, cocoa, sugar and cottonplantations, gold and silver mines, rice fields, construction industry, cutting timber for ships, in skilled labour, and as domestic servants. The first Africans imported to theEnglish colonies were classified as "indentured servants", like workers coming from England, and also as "apprentices for life". By the middle of the 17th century, slavery had hardened as a racial caste; they and their offspring were legally the property of their owners, and children born to slave mothers were slaves. As property, the people were considered merchandise or units of labour, and were sold at markets with other goods and services.

The Atlantic slave traders, ordered by trade volume, were: the Portuguese, the British, the French, the Spanish, and the Dutch Empire. Several had established outposts on the African coast where they purchased slaves from local African leaders.[5] These slaves were managed by a factor who was established on or near the coast to expedite the shipping of slaves to the New World. These slaves were kept in a factory while awaiting shipment. Current estimates are that about 12 million Africans were shipped across the Atlantic,[6] although the number purchased by the traders is considerably higher.[7][8]

Hell for that matter sue African blacks, they traded as many slaves as anyone

 

[Obiwan]

So sue Europe and Africa..

Atlantic slave trade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Atlantic slave trade or transatlantic slave trade took place across the Atlantic Ocean from the 16th through to the 19th centuries. The vast majority of those enslaved that were transported to the New World, many on the triangular trade routeand its Middle Passage, were West Africans from the central and western parts of the continent sold by other western Africans to western European slave traders, with a small minority being captured directly by the slave traders in coastal raids, and brought to theAmericas.[1] The numbers were so great that Africans who came by way of the slave trade became the most numerous Old World immigrants in both North and South America before the late 18th century.[2] Far more slaves were taken to South America than to the north. The South Atlantic economic system centered on producing commodity crops, and making goods and clothing to sell in Europe, and increasing the numbers of African slaves brought to the New World. This was crucial to those western European countries which, in the late 17th and 18th centuries, were vying with each other to create overseas empires.[3]

The Portuguese were the first to engage in the New World slave trade in the 16th century, in 1526, and other countries soon followed.[4] Ship owners considered the slaves as cargo to be transported to the Americas as quickly and cheaply as possible,[3] there to be sold to labour in coffee, tobacco, cocoa, sugar and cottonplantations, gold and silver mines, rice fields, construction industry, cutting timber for ships, in skilled labour, and as domestic servants. The first Africans imported to theEnglish colonies were classified as "indentured servants", like workers coming from England, and also as "apprentices for life". By the middle of the 17th century, slavery had hardened as a racial caste; they and their offspring were legally the property of their owners, and children born to slave mothers were slaves. As property, the people were considered merchandise or units of labour, and were sold at markets with other goods and services.

The Atlantic slave traders, ordered by trade volume, were: the Portuguese, the British, the French, the Spanish, and the Dutch Empire. Several had established outposts on the African coast where they purchased slaves from local African leaders.[5] These slaves were managed by a factor who was established on or near the coast to expedite the shipping of slaves to the New World. These slaves were kept in a factory while awaiting shipment. Current estimates are that about 12 million Africans were shipped across the Atlantic,[6] although the number purchased by the traders is considerably higher.[7][8]

Hell for that matter sue African blacks, they traded as many slaves and anyone

But don't forget slave owners here...

The Democrat Party certainly owes reperations.

 

[Mac1958]

It's 2015.

Maybe we could start acting like it's 2015. American Blacks are just as capable as anyone else, let's treat them that way for a change.
.

 

[hortysir]

I guess you just don't have enough class to credit other people's writing using quotation marks.
No surprise there.
On any other forum you would have been permanently banned for your behaviour. But you know this of course.

If Sallow had put all of that within quote tags, it would ha e shrunk to not much more than the title paragraph.
When that happens lazy people that can't get passed the structure in order to be able to debate the actual content.

This is one reason I hate Columbus day. He was the first to enslave that entire region. Then it got turned into the waystation the article talks about.

I'll admit that I was ready to come in and say "quit picking the scab".
But I like the Cuban angle.

 

[martybegan]

Our forgotten slavery horror: The shameful, untold history of America and the Cuban slave trade
As Cuba opens, it's time to recognize our proxy role in Cuba's slave trade, and the Monroe Doctrine's real purpose

Of the 12.5 million enslaved Africans who were brought to the Americas from 1501 to 1867, approximately 4 percent arrived in North America. Another 7 percent were taken to Cuba to work in what is now recognized as an “agro-industrial graveyard” of sugar and coffee production. Historians use this term for good reason: the life expectancy of enslaved Africans from the time of their arrival in Cuba was often calculated in single digits. These catastrophic mortality rates meant that Cuban slavery depended on the slave trade. Although the U.S. and England banned the slave trade in 1808, fully 85 percent (759,669) of the slaves to be transported to Cuba were brought after the U.S. ban. By this time, Americans had decided that Cuban slavery made good economic sense and were actively intensifying their participation in the regime.

After the American Revolution, the young United States was deeply in debt and on the verge of a rapid expansion of the cotton frontier. But the U.S. merchants who ran the nation’s banks and insurance companies could only provide agricultural loans with a reliable source of specie (gold and silver), and sugar and coffee to back their notes and offset trade deficits with the financial centers of Europe. If coffee, sugar and specie unlocked the doors of European and Asian markets for U.S. investors, slave ships were their key. By the early 1800s, Cuban slavery was at the center of this exchange, and American statesmen, including every U.S. president from Thomas Jefferson to John Quincy Adams, worked doggedly to protect it.


Our forgotten slavery horror: The shameful, untold history of America and the Cuban slave trade - Salon.com

More anguish directed at people who did not commit this acts, to placate people who were not around for the acts to be committed towards.

 

[Katzndogz]

So. No one today gives a shit. Italy should start paying England for the enslavement of all the Brits.

 

[Sunni Man]

European jews financed and ran the slave trade to the caribbean islands.......take it up with them. ......

 

[dannyboys]

It's 2016.

Maybe we could start acting like it's 2016. American Blacks are just as capable as anyone else, let's treat them that way for a change.
.

If they were just as capable as anyone else they would be doing what "anyone else" would be doing.
They are not because they can't.
If the country started treating negroes just like any other race the UN would be calling for world wide sanctions.
Face facts. The negro race is essentially the world's 'Special Needs' race and it must be treated 'differently' than any other race.

 

[Mac1958]

It's 2016.

Maybe we could start acting like it's 2016. American Blacks are just as capable as anyone else, let's treat them that way for a change.
.

If they were just as capable as anyone else they would be doing what "anyone else" would be doing.
They are not because they can't.If the country started treating negroes just like any other race the UN would be calling for world wide sanctions. Face facts. The negro race is essentially the world's 'Special Needs' race and it must be treated 'differently' than any other race.

No. American Blacks are as capable as anyone else, although they are hamstrung from an early age in our country due to the conditioning to which they are subjected from birth by those who claim to "care".

Treat them that way and they will respond accordingly, just like anyone else.
.

 

[Sallow]

You guys may be on to something.

If folks, who weren't alive, aren't responsible for bad stuff, historically, why should they be bothered by it?

And in the same vein, if folks BENEFITTED by things done in the past, that they had nothing to do with, then really? There should be no benefit.

It's high time to do away with inheritance.

Man, you guys are good!

 

[Ravi]

It's 2015.

Maybe we could start acting like it's 2015. American Blacks are just as capable as anyone else, let's treat them that way for a change.
.

Cubans are Americans? Who knew.

 

[martybegan]

You guys may be on to something.

If folks, who weren't alive, aren't responsible for bad stuff, historically, why should they be bothered by it?

And in the same vein, if folks BENEFITTED by things done in the past, that they had nothing to do with, then really? There should be no benefit.

It's high time to do away with inheritance.

Man, you guys are good!

Nice attempt to correlate people passing down assets to their own kin to the concept that some people are owed something due to past sins.

 

[Mac1958]

Or we could just treat American Blacks like everyone else.

Oooh, how racist!
.

 

[hortysir]

You guys may be on to something.

If folks, who weren't alive, aren't responsible for bad stuff, historically, why should they be bothered by it?

And in the same vein, if folks BENEFITTED by things done in the past, that they had nothing to do with, then really? There should be no benefit.

It's high time to do away with inheritance.

Man, you guys are good!

You might want a cold compress for that stretch

 

[Sallow]

You guys may be on to something.

If folks, who weren't alive, aren't responsible for bad stuff, historically, why should they be bothered by it?

And in the same vein, if folks BENEFITTED by things done in the past, that they had nothing to do with, then really? There should be no benefit.

It's high time to do away with inheritance.

Man, you guys are good!

Nice attempt to correlate people passing down assets to their own kin to the concept that some people are owed something due to past sins.

Wait what?

You want profit passed down but want nothing to do with liability?

Gotta love that.

 

[Sallow]

You guys may be on to something.

If folks, who weren't alive, aren't responsible for bad stuff, historically, why should they be bothered by it?

And in the same vein, if folks BENEFITTED by things done in the past, that they had nothing to do with, then really? There should be no benefit.

It's high time to do away with inheritance.

Man, you guys are good!

You might want a cold compress for that stretch

Not a stretch at all.

Many of today's wealthiest folks had ancestors who had a very "casual" relationship with the law.

But still?

They got the loot.

 

[bucs90]

Liberals bitch about slavery 150 years ago. But ignore modern slavery in Africa, Asia and the Middle East.