Operation Spiderweb shows the U.S. is vulnerable to a similar attack.

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We have felt secure on our home soil for so long that I think this complacency is now ingrained in how people think. Plus we have already seen mysterious drone activity in the U.S., which was never fully explained, which is also a bad sign for U.S. security.




“Any country that has strategic bombers, strategic missiles and silos, or strategic nuclear submarines at port is looking at the attack and thinking the risk to our arsenal from a containerized set of drones disguised as a semitrailer poses a real risk,” said Jason Matheny, CEO of the Rand Corporation and a former director of the Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity, which develops advanced technologies for U.S. spy agencies.

Ukraine’s feat was the latest display of an accelerating use of asymmetric attacks, in which one force, often smaller and weaker, deploys unconventional tactics against another.

Take, for example, Iranian-backed Houthi rebels who have used relatively low-cost missiles and drones to snarl commercial shipping in the vital Red Sea waterway, prompting a retaliatory U.S. bombing campaign under President Donald Trump that cost well over $1 billion.

The “character of warfare is changing at a ratio faster than we’ve ever seen,” Army Gen. Bryan Fenton, commander of U.S. Special Operations Command, told Congress in April. “Our adversaries use $10,000 one-way drones that we shoot down with $2 million missiles. That cost-benefit curve is upside down.”

Unconventional methods, such as exploiting a technology supply chain, are also being used by established powers to degrade their adversaries. In September, amid attacks across its northern border, Israel pulled off an audacious operation that rigged pagers and walkie-talkies to explode when triggered remotely. The attack contributed to the devastation of Hezbollah’s ranks, from which it has not fully recovered, and may have spared Israel a costly invasion of Lebanon.

Asymmetric warfare is as old as the Bible’s David versus Goliath and as devastating as the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, in which al-Qaeda operatives hijacked U.S. airliners and killed almost 3,000 people. That plot cost between $400,000 and $500,000, according to the 9/11 Commission. By some estimates, the United States has spent $8 trillion on post-9/11 wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere.

But drones, even short-range craft like the ones Ukraine smuggled into Russia, have become the asymmetric weapon of choice because of their relatively low cost, accessibility and remote piloting. And while much has been made of cyberweapons in asymmetric warfare — there was widespread fear about Russia taking out Ukraine’s electric grids and communications networks before it invaded — so far the physical impact has been muted.

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Yes, the entire world is.

I hope the U.S military doesn't bend the knee to the M.I.C and instead spends a few billions on A.I for air drones, water drones, low flying land cruisers.

This is the future, not big billion dollar jets but MILLIONS of drones launched at once for which there would be little to no defense.

There is apparently millions of drones already produced by China.

When I first started learning A.I and the basic backpropagation algorithm was presenting the case of ATMs and how they identify money. The technology was perfected over time as the machines learned to distinguish writing on cheques, the different shapes for the numbers 0-9 etc,

My very first thought when learning the fundamentals was the way this visual recognition was going to be applicable to the future of warfare. In fact, my initial impulse was that of fear. I realized at that moment that man had at their disposal the means to easily kill each other without nukes.
 
Meanwhile, this revolting stolen election fucking skank vetoes a bill that would stop the CCP from buying land, especially near military installations.

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We have felt secure on our home soil for so long that I think this complacency is now ingrained in how people think. Plus we have already seen mysterious drone activity in the U.S., which was never fully explained, which is also a bad sign for U.S. security.




“Any country that has strategic bombers, strategic missiles and silos, or strategic nuclear submarines at port is looking at the attack and thinking the risk to our arsenal from a containerized set of drones disguised as a semitrailer poses a real risk,” said Jason Matheny, CEO of the Rand Corporation and a former director of the Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity, which develops advanced technologies for U.S. spy agencies.

Ukraine’s feat was the latest display of an accelerating use of asymmetric attacks, in which one force, often smaller and weaker, deploys unconventional tactics against another.

Take, for example, Iranian-backed Houthi rebels who have used relatively low-cost missiles and drones to snarl commercial shipping in the vital Red Sea waterway, prompting a retaliatory U.S. bombing campaign under President Donald Trump that cost well over $1 billion.

The “character of warfare is changing at a ratio faster than we’ve ever seen,” Army Gen. Bryan Fenton, commander of U.S. Special Operations Command, told Congress in April. “Our adversaries use $10,000 one-way drones that we shoot down with $2 million missiles. That cost-benefit curve is upside down.”

Unconventional methods, such as exploiting a technology supply chain, are also being used by established powers to degrade their adversaries. In September, amid attacks across its northern border, Israel pulled off an audacious operation that rigged pagers and walkie-talkies to explode when triggered remotely. The attack contributed to the devastation of Hezbollah’s ranks, from which it has not fully recovered, and may have spared Israel a costly invasion of Lebanon.

Asymmetric warfare is as old as the Bible’s David versus Goliath and as devastating as the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, in which al-Qaeda operatives hijacked U.S. airliners and killed almost 3,000 people. That plot cost between $400,000 and $500,000, according to the 9/11 Commission. By some estimates, the United States has spent $8 trillion on post-9/11 wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere.

But drones, even short-range craft like the ones Ukraine smuggled into Russia, have become the asymmetric weapon of choice because of their relatively low cost, accessibility and remote piloting. And while much has been made of cyberweapons in asymmetric warfare — there was widespread fear about Russia taking out Ukraine’s electric grids and communications networks before it invaded — so far the physical impact has been muted.

WaPo
Actually, it's not a "risk". It's an actual and imminent threat, for Russia "have to respond" on the American proxy attacks against Russian strategic forces. In the less than year, there will be "deniable proxy attack" or "the accident-like acts of sabotage" against US strategic bombers or SSBNs.

 
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Actually, it's not a "risk". It's an actual and imminent threat, for Russia "have to respond" on the American proxy attacks against Russian strategic forces. In the less than year, there will be "deniable proxy attack" or "the accident-like acts of sabotage" against US strategic bombers or SSBNs.

Thanks for the heads up.

We might have to stomp a mud hole in Russia's ass if they get stupid.
 
Thanks for the heads up.

We might have to stomp a mud hole in Russia's ass if they get stupid.
If you think that you can attack our nuclear forces and we can't attack yours - think one more time. It is not how the things works in the nuclear deterrence. When one side make escalatory move - another side also do it (or escalate even larger). And no, Russia can win a nuclear war against the USA and the USA can't win a nuclear war against Russia. Thats why Russia can freely escalate.
 
If you think that you can attack our nuclear forces and we can't attack yours - think one more time. It is not how the things works in the nuclear deterrence. When one side make escalatory move - another side also do it (or escalate even larger). And no, Russia can win a nuclear war against the USA and the USA can't win a nuclear war against Russia. Thats why Russia can freely escalate.


Your dangerous, despotic dictator is desperate, and there is likely no one in your government who can stop him, same as North Korea. Yes, you pose a very dangerous threat, because your country is already a shithole, same as North Korea. Neither of you have anything to lose.
 
The problem with drones is that the chickenshit Biden administration wouldn't give the military or local government permission to shoot down the things.
 
Your dangerous, despotic dictator is desperate, and there is likely no one in your government who can stop him, same as North Korea. Yes, you pose a very dangerous threat, because your country is already a shithole, same as North Korea. Neither of you have anything to lose.
Don't be an idiot.
Russia is nothing like N. Korea.
Putin isn't a dictator and Russia is a democracy.
 
We have felt secure on our home soil for so long that I think this complacency is now ingrained in how people think. Plus we have already seen mysterious drone activity in the U.S., which was never fully explained, which is also a bad sign for U.S. security.




“Any country that has strategic bombers, strategic missiles and silos, or strategic nuclear submarines at port is looking at the attack and thinking the risk to our arsenal from a containerized set of drones disguised as a semitrailer poses a real risk,” said Jason Matheny, CEO of the Rand Corporation and a former director of the Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity, which develops advanced technologies for U.S. spy agencies.

Ukraine’s feat was the latest display of an accelerating use of asymmetric attacks, in which one force, often smaller and weaker, deploys unconventional tactics against another.

Take, for example, Iranian-backed Houthi rebels who have used relatively low-cost missiles and drones to snarl commercial shipping in the vital Red Sea waterway, prompting a retaliatory U.S. bombing campaign under President Donald Trump that cost well over $1 billion.

The “character of warfare is changing at a ratio faster than we’ve ever seen,” Army Gen. Bryan Fenton, commander of U.S. Special Operations Command, told Congress in April. “Our adversaries use $10,000 one-way drones that we shoot down with $2 million missiles. That cost-benefit curve is upside down.”

Unconventional methods, such as exploiting a technology supply chain, are also being used by established powers to degrade their adversaries. In September, amid attacks across its northern border, Israel pulled off an audacious operation that rigged pagers and walkie-talkies to explode when triggered remotely. The attack contributed to the devastation of Hezbollah’s ranks, from which it has not fully recovered, and may have spared Israel a costly invasion of Lebanon.

Asymmetric warfare is as old as the Bible’s David versus Goliath and as devastating as the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, in which al-Qaeda operatives hijacked U.S. airliners and killed almost 3,000 people. That plot cost between $400,000 and $500,000, according to the 9/11 Commission. By some estimates, the United States has spent $8 trillion on post-9/11 wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere.

But drones, even short-range craft like the ones Ukraine smuggled into Russia, have become the asymmetric weapon of choice because of their relatively low cost, accessibility and remote piloting. And while much has been made of cyberweapons in asymmetric warfare — there was widespread fear about Russia taking out Ukraine’s electric grids and communications networks before it invaded — so far the physical impact has been muted.

WaPo

Drones and hacking and manipulation of politics have completely changed warfare.

The Russians are doing all kinds of things in Europe and the US and both seem to be struggling to deal with it effectively.
 
We have felt secure on our home soil for so long that I think this complacency is now ingrained in how people think. Plus we have already seen mysterious drone activity in the U.S., which was never fully explained, which is also a bad sign for U.S. security.




“Any country that has strategic bombers, strategic missiles and silos, or strategic nuclear submarines at port is looking at the attack and thinking the risk to our arsenal from a containerized set of drones disguised as a semitrailer poses a real risk,” said Jason Matheny, CEO of the Rand Corporation and a former director of the Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity, which develops advanced technologies for U.S. spy agencies.

Ukraine’s feat was the latest display of an accelerating use of asymmetric attacks, in which one force, often smaller and weaker, deploys unconventional tactics against another.

Take, for example, Iranian-backed Houthi rebels who have used relatively low-cost missiles and drones to snarl commercial shipping in the vital Red Sea waterway, prompting a retaliatory U.S. bombing campaign under President Donald Trump that cost well over $1 billion.

The “character of warfare is changing at a ratio faster than we’ve ever seen,” Army Gen. Bryan Fenton, commander of U.S. Special Operations Command, told Congress in April. “Our adversaries use $10,000 one-way drones that we shoot down with $2 million missiles. That cost-benefit curve is upside down.”

Unconventional methods, such as exploiting a technology supply chain, are also being used by established powers to degrade their adversaries. In September, amid attacks across its northern border, Israel pulled off an audacious operation that rigged pagers and walkie-talkies to explode when triggered remotely. The attack contributed to the devastation of Hezbollah’s ranks, from which it has not fully recovered, and may have spared Israel a costly invasion of Lebanon.

Asymmetric warfare is as old as the Bible’s David versus Goliath and as devastating as the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, in which al-Qaeda operatives hijacked U.S. airliners and killed almost 3,000 people. That plot cost between $400,000 and $500,000, according to the 9/11 Commission. By some estimates, the United States has spent $8 trillion on post-9/11 wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere.

But drones, even short-range craft like the ones Ukraine smuggled into Russia, have become the asymmetric weapon of choice because of their relatively low cost, accessibility and remote piloting. And while much has been made of cyberweapons in asymmetric warfare — there was widespread fear about Russia taking out Ukraine’s electric grids and communications networks before it invaded — so far the physical impact has been muted.

WaPo
you forgot one thing, Moscow 🇷🇺 empire SUCKS BIG TIME

 
Your dangerous, despotic dictator is desperate, and there is likely no one in your government who can stop him, same as North Korea. Yes, you pose a very dangerous threat, because your country is already a shithole, same as North Korea. Neither of you have anything to lose.
There is no reason to call names. After all, it was Trump (or whoever keep control of his auto-pen and/or makes decisions in his administration) who escalated to the level "deniable proxy attacks against strategic nuclear forces" and made the future attacks against US nuclear forces imminent. Actually, because of his actions we are much closer to the direct nuclear war than anytime in the history (including the Cuban Missile Crisis).
 
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Here is a practical question: Should the USA build concrete hangers for strategic bombers on Diego Garcia base (and other bases), or faith in Putin's goodwill and the strength of American deterrence/intelligence/counter terroristic abilities is enough?
 
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