Obama's pentagon tells recruiters to openly accept homosexuals

[mdn2000]

Imagine this, you have a soldier wounded in a fire fight. Do you think the soldier next to him will render aid? I doubt it. Fear of aids.

Oh right.

Bullets flying, bombs going off and STILL soldiers come to each other's aid.

But they'll fear AIDS comtamination from a wounded guy's blood?

That's hilarious.

So you don't get the point. Pushing an agenda on a actual battlefield will do nothing but get people killed.

Pushing the agenda before the battle will cause the warriors to not volunteer.

 

[R.C. Christian]

I'm curious what the Joint Chiefs have to say on the subject?

 

[Seawytch]

They would if they had an openly gay person bleeding from gun shot wound

Straight people can have Aids too.

How did aids get started? It wasn't straight people who first contracted aids.

From Avert.org:
The most commonly accepted theory is that of the 'hunter'. In this scenario, SIVcpz was transferred to humans as a result of chimps being killed and eaten or their blood getting into cuts or wounds on the hunter. Normally the hunter's body would have fought off SIV, but on a few occasions it adapted itself within its new human host and became HIV-1. The fact that there were several different early strains of HIV, each with a slightly different genetic make-up (the most common of which was HIV-1 group M), would support this theory: every time it passed from a chimpanzee to a man, it would have developed in a slightly different way within his body, and thus produced a slightly different strain.

An article published in The Lancet in 20044, also shows how retroviral transfer from primates to hunters is still occurring even today. In a sample of 1099 individuals in Cameroon , they discovered ten (1%) were infected with SFV (Simian Foamy Virus), an illness which, like SIV, was previously thought only to infect primates. All these infections were believed to have been acquired through the butchering and consumption of monkey and ape meat. Discoveries such as this have led to calls for an outright ban on bushmeat hunting to prevent simian viruses being passed to humans.

Just an "FYI", but soldiers are tested for HIV prior to being deployed overseas.

 

[CMike]

According to the survey there are 1.7% homosexual or bisexual men in the military. That is a pretty low number.

Troops speak out on gays serving openly - Army News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Army Times

Among active-duty survey respondents, 2.1 percent identified themselves as gay or bisexual, while 3 percent said they were “unsure” or declined to answer. Women were three times more likely than men to report being gay or bisexual (5.4 percent to 1.7 percent).

Those figures are higher than in the society at large, according to an August 2009 Congressional Research Service Report on “don’t ask, don’t tell,” which estimated 1.6 percent of the population is homosexual.

 

[Gadawg73]

I'm curious what the Joint Chiefs have to say on the subject?

The head of JCOS supports open service and has stated publicly.

 

[CMike]

Federal Eye - Marine commandant clarifies opposition to 'don't ask' repeal

On Thursday Marine Corp Commandant Gen. James T. Conway also more clearly expressed his opposition to a repeal of the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy Thursday, telling senators he believes the current policy works.


"My personal opinion is that unless we can strip away the -- the emotion, the agendas, and the politics. And ask, at least in my case, do we somehow enhance the war fighting capabilities of the United States Marine Corps by allowing homosexuals to openly serve," Conway told the Senate Armed Services Committee. "And we haven't addressed it from the correct perspective. And at this point I think that the current policy works."

"My best military advice to this committee, to the secretary, and to the president would be to keep the law such as it is," Conway said.

 

[CMike]

I'm curious what the Joint Chiefs have to say on the subject?

The head of JCOS supports open service and has stated publicly.

Unfortunately, he serves the president.

 

[Sunni Man]

The Marines for sure don't want queers in their branch of the service.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Straight people can have Aids too.

How did aids get started? It wasn't straight people who first contracted aids.

From Avert.org:
The most commonly accepted theory is that of the 'hunter'. In this scenario, SIVcpz was transferred to humans as a result of chimps being killed and eaten or their blood getting into cuts or wounds on the hunter. Normally the hunter's body would have fought off SIV, but on a few occasions it adapted itself within its new human host and became HIV-1. The fact that there were several different early strains of HIV, each with a slightly different genetic make-up (the most common of which was HIV-1 group M), would support this theory: every time it passed from a chimpanzee to a man, it would have developed in a slightly different way within his body, and thus produced a slightly different strain.

An article published in The Lancet in 20044, also shows how retroviral transfer from primates to hunters is still occurring even today. In a sample of 1099 individuals in Cameroon , they discovered ten (1%) were infected with SFV (Simian Foamy Virus), an illness which, like SIV, was previously thought only to infect primates. All these infections were believed to have been acquired through the butchering and consumption of monkey and ape meat. Discoveries such as this have led to calls for an outright ban on bushmeat hunting to prevent simian viruses being passed to humans.

Just an "FYI", but soldiers are tested for HIV prior to being deployed overseas.

So aids just pick a certain group of people from out of the blue back in the 80's? Aids was not started with straight people. dick suckers were the people who were first affected with aids.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Oh right.

Bullets flying, bombs going off and STILL soldiers come to each other's aid.

But they'll fear AIDS comtamination from a wounded guy's blood?

That's hilarious.

So you don't get the point. Pushing an agenda on a actual battlefield will do nothing but get people killed.

Pushing the agenda before the battle will cause the warriors to not volunteer.

Rainbow warriors?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You know some of us may be wrong on this myself included. The Military has a thing call no PDA public display of affection. In the military you have to wear certain clothing so gays cannot express themself by wearing chaps, and they cannot hold hands in public.

RELEVANT UCMJ PROVISIONS
Article 125. Sodomy.
"(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages
in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the
same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy.
Penetration, however, slight, is sufficient to complete the
offense."

Article 134. General Article.
" ... all disorders and neglects to the armed forces, all
conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed
forces ... shall be punished at the discretion of that court."

 

[theDoctorisIn]

How did aids get started? It wasn't straight people who first contracted aids.

From Avert.org:
The most commonly accepted theory is that of the 'hunter'. In this scenario, SIVcpz was transferred to humans as a result of chimps being killed and eaten or their blood getting into cuts or wounds on the hunter. Normally the hunter's body would have fought off SIV, but on a few occasions it adapted itself within its new human host and became HIV-1. The fact that there were several different early strains of HIV, each with a slightly different genetic make-up (the most common of which was HIV-1 group M), would support this theory: every time it passed from a chimpanzee to a man, it would have developed in a slightly different way within his body, and thus produced a slightly different strain.

An article published in The Lancet in 20044, also shows how retroviral transfer from primates to hunters is still occurring even today. In a sample of 1099 individuals in Cameroon , they discovered ten (1%) were infected with SFV (Simian Foamy Virus), an illness which, like SIV, was previously thought only to infect primates. All these infections were believed to have been acquired through the butchering and consumption of monkey and ape meat. Discoveries such as this have led to calls for an outright ban on bushmeat hunting to prevent simian viruses being passed to humans.

Just an "FYI", but soldiers are tested for HIV prior to being deployed overseas.

So aids just pick a certain group of people from out of the blue back in the 80's? Aids was not started with straight people. dick suckers were the people who were first affected with aids.

You're wrong. Again.

 

[Seawytch]

You know some of us may be wrong on this myself included. The Military has a thing call no PDA public display of affection. In the military you have to wear certain clothing so gays cannot express themself by wearing chaps, and they cannot hold hands in public.

RELEVANT UCMJ PROVISIONS
Article 125. Sodomy.
"(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages
in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the
same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy.
Penetration, however, slight, is sufficient to complete the
offense."

Article 134. General Article.
" ... all disorders and neglects to the armed forces, all
conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed
forces ... shall be punished at the discretion of that court."

Were you aware that Article 125 includes ALL acts of anal and oral sex regardless of whether or not the act was with a member of the same or opposite sex? Do you realize the 99.9% of the military has either violated Article 125 or wants to?

As to PDAs in uniform...why do you assume that these regulations will no longer apply simply because gays can serve honestly? Do you have an argument on this issue that makes ANY sense?

 

[Seawytch]

How did aids get started? It wasn't straight people who first contracted aids.

From Avert.org:
The most commonly accepted theory is that of the 'hunter'. In this scenario, SIVcpz was transferred to humans as a result of chimps being killed and eaten or their blood getting into cuts or wounds on the hunter. Normally the hunter's body would have fought off SIV, but on a few occasions it adapted itself within its new human host and became HIV-1. The fact that there were several different early strains of HIV, each with a slightly different genetic make-up (the most common of which was HIV-1 group M), would support this theory: every time it passed from a chimpanzee to a man, it would have developed in a slightly different way within his body, and thus produced a slightly different strain.

An article published in The Lancet in 20044, also shows how retroviral transfer from primates to hunters is still occurring even today. In a sample of 1099 individuals in Cameroon , they discovered ten (1%) were infected with SFV (Simian Foamy Virus), an illness which, like SIV, was previously thought only to infect primates. All these infections were believed to have been acquired through the butchering and consumption of monkey and ape meat. Discoveries such as this have led to calls for an outright ban on bushmeat hunting to prevent simian viruses being passed to humans.

Just an "FYI", but soldiers are tested for HIV prior to being deployed overseas.

So aids just pick a certain group of people from out of the blue back in the 80's? Aids was not started with straight people. dick suckers were the people who were first affected with aids.

No, it was monkey meat eaters, not tube steak eaters, that likely caused the simian/human jump of the virus.

 

[Gadawg73]

I'm curious what the Joint Chiefs have to say on the subject?

The head of JCOS supports open service and has stated publicly.

Unfortunately, he serves the president.

LOL, obviously you know nothing about the military.
So Pace was a tool of the President when he voiced his opposition to gays in the military as CJOS?
Give it up. I agree that the court ruling in time of war should not stand but we will see this law changed and as soon as a military plan is in place.
Get used to it. We have lost too much talent as it stands now.

 

[Gadawg73]

According to the survey there are 1.7% homosexual or bisexual men in the military. That is a pretty low number.

Troops speak out on gays serving openly - Army News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Army Times

Among active-duty survey respondents, 2.1 percent identified themselves as gay or bisexual, while 3 percent said they were “unsure” or declined to answer. Women were three times more likely than men to report being gay or bisexual (5.4 percent to 1.7 percent).

Those figures are higher than in the society at large, according to an August 2009 Congressional Research Service Report on “don’t ask, don’t tell,” which estimated 1.6 percent of the population is homosexual.

You believe that poll is accurate?
Under the current law if ONE declared they were they would be discharged.
Is that what you favor, NO gays at all in the military?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You know some of us may be wrong on this myself included. The Military has a thing call no PDA public display of affection. In the military you have to wear certain clothing so gays cannot express themself by wearing chaps, and they cannot hold hands in public.

RELEVANT UCMJ PROVISIONS
Article 125. Sodomy.
"(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages
in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the
same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy.
Penetration, however, slight, is sufficient to complete the
offense."

Article 134. General Article.
" ... all disorders and neglects to the armed forces, all
conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed
forces ... shall be punished at the discretion of that court."

Were you aware that Article 125 includes ALL acts of anal and oral sex regardless of whether or not the act was with a member of the same or opposite sex? Do you realize the 99.9% of the military has either violated Article 125 or wants to?

As to PDAs in uniform...why do you assume that these regulations will no longer apply simply because gays can serve honestly? Do you have an argument on this issue that makes ANY sense?

Never said they would not apply anymore they will unless the Military changes. Was I aware? I post the reply so yes I am aware. But there is no way a homosexual can have sex with the same sex without violating ART 125

 

[SFC Ollie]

Obviously Art 125 is one of the things that will have to be reworked. I don't believe it's a good Idea at all, but I am a realist and see it coming. That doesn't make it right in my eyes. But we shall see.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

From Avert.org:
The most commonly accepted theory is that of the 'hunter'. In this scenario, SIVcpz was transferred to humans as a result of chimps being killed and eaten or their blood getting into cuts or wounds on the hunter. Normally the hunter's body would have fought off SIV, but on a few occasions it adapted itself within its new human host and became HIV-1. The fact that there were several different early strains of HIV, each with a slightly different genetic make-up (the most common of which was HIV-1 group M), would support this theory: every time it passed from a chimpanzee to a man, it would have developed in a slightly different way within his body, and thus produced a slightly different strain.

An article published in The Lancet in 20044, also shows how retroviral transfer from primates to hunters is still occurring even today. In a sample of 1099 individuals in Cameroon , they discovered ten (1%) were infected with SFV (Simian Foamy Virus), an illness which, like SIV, was previously thought only to infect primates. All these infections were believed to have been acquired through the butchering and consumption of monkey and ape meat. Discoveries such as this have led to calls for an outright ban on bushmeat hunting to prevent simian viruses being passed to humans.

Just an "FYI", but soldiers are tested for HIV prior to being deployed overseas.

So aids just pick a certain group of people from out of the blue back in the 80's? Aids was not started with straight people. dick suckers were the people who were first affected with aids.

You're wrong. Again.

Unless you have a link stating otherwise and not your opinion I am right.
So what group of people in America was the first non group of people to contract aids? Was it a person who sole had hetrosexual relationships? Or was it a person who had homosexual relationships?
Funny thing John homes didn't get aids until he started doing homo pron.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

So aids just pick a certain group of people from out of the blue back in the 80's? Aids was not started with straight people. dick suckers were the people who were first affected with aids.

You're wrong. Again.

Unless you have a link stating otherwise and not your opinion I am right.
So what group of people in America was the first non group of people to contract aids? Was it a person who sole had hetrosexual relationships? Or was it a person who had homosexual relationships?
Funny thing John homes didn't get aids until he started doing homo pron.

So, somehow your opinion means something? Not quite how it works, brother.

But in terms of the link you're looking for - the post you responded to acurately describes the start of the AIDS virus.

It's easier to spread AIDS through anal sex rather than vaginal - that's why it used to be called GRID (Gay Related Immune Deficiency). But they changed the name when it became clear that "gayness" had nothing to do with the virus.