ObamaCare's Looming Land Mine

[LoneLaugher]

irrelevant you've already been lied to in support of obamacare. Regardless what links has been produced you and others like you are defending an already proven and admitted lie.

I am sure that you find that argument to be riveting. Wen it came to you, did you lose your breath for a moment?

irrelevant you are supporting an already proven lie makes you and others like you a liar.

Hey! Why not repeat it again? You still have some tissues left, right?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I am sure that you find that argument to be riveting. Wen it came to you, did you lose your breath for a moment?

irrelevant you are supporting an already proven lie makes you and others like you a liar.

Hey! Why not repeat it again? You still have some tissues left, right?

You're the one whining about someone lying you have my permission to blow your nose.

 

[Care4all]

That is very odd. I must say.

You're such a diplomat.

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... my son has Medicaid and no doctor we have ever gone to has accepted it. Same with Medicare. Same will be true with (un)aca....

The first two statements are unbelievable and the third is just further proof that rw's STILL do not know that ACA/ObamaCare is not a program, not government health care insurance and not a product.

I wonder if they will every learn that simple fact.

I don't care if you find my statements unbelievable or not. They are true. His medicaid is Keystone Mercy -- his ped did not participate in Keystone Mercy so medicaid was useless at his peds; his eye doc did not participate in Keystone Mercy so medicaid was useless at his eye doc; all the specialists that we saw over the years NONE participated in Keystone Mercy so medicaid was useless at all of those specialists.

You don't know much about how insurance works, do you? Just as docs do not have to accept/participate in medicaid plans they have the choice to not participate in the plans offered on the exchanges.

Don't take my word for it, go do some googling and read.

i believe you zoom, but note this was for an Eye doctor.......eye doctors and dentists have NEVER been a part of my insurance plan over the decades....if you wanted eye care you buy another separate policy, same with dental, you buy a separate policy....

if Medicaid covers eye doctors then that is amazing and a great policy!

and it's true doctors can choose to not participate in medicare, medicaid or ANY Private insurance policy plan if they are in business for themselves and do not belong to a hospital that might force them to accept your insurance plan...that's the way it is now, and I am certain it won't change with the ACA...

Sooo, Docs can turn down ANY Insurance plan they want right NOW.....if they are not on the Insurance Plan as a provider....but NOTE, his eye doctor SHOULD HAVE recommended an eye doctor that was on your friend's insurance plan, to take his place....I believe that is the Law in many States if not all....

ALSO, with health insurance plans, the fine print on most, says they cover specialists not on your plan with 50% coverage....in these cases the patient pays upfront, and then files a claim with the insurance company to get reimbursement of the 50%.

 

[Zoom-boing]

You're such a diplomat.

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The first two statements are unbelievable and the third is just further proof that rw's STILL do not know that ACA/ObamaCare is not a program, not government health care insurance and not a product.

I wonder if they will every learn that simple fact.

I don't care if you find my statements unbelievable or not. They are true. His medicaid is Keystone Mercy -- his ped did not participate in Keystone Mercy so medicaid was useless at his peds; his eye doc did not participate in Keystone Mercy so medicaid was useless at his eye doc; all the specialists that we saw over the years NONE participated in Keystone Mercy so medicaid was useless at all of those specialists.

You don't know much about how insurance works, do you? Just as docs do not have to accept/participate in medicaid plans they have the choice to not participate in the plans offered on the exchanges.

Don't take my word for it, go do some googling and read.

i believe you zoom, but note this was for an Eye doctor.......eye doctors and dentists have NEVER been a part of my insurance plan over the decades....if you wanted eye care you buy another separate policy, same with dental, you buy a separate policy....

if Medicaid covers eye doctors then that is amazing and a great policy!

and it's true doctors can choose to not participate in medicare, medicaid or ANY Private insurance policy plan if they are in business for themselves and do not belong to a hospital that might force them to accept your insurance plan...that's the way it is now, and I am certain it won't change with the ACA...

Sooo, Docs can turn down ANY Insurance plan they want right NOW.....if they are not on the Insurance Plan as a provider....but NOTE, his eye doctor SHOULD HAVE recommended an eye doctor that was on your friend's insurance plan, to take his place....I believe that is the Law in many States if not all....

ALSO, with health insurance plans, the fine print on most, says they cover specialists not on your plan with 50% coverage....in these cases the patient pays upfront, and then files a claim with the insurance company to get reimbursement of the 50%.

No doc -- regular docs (pediatricians, family practice) took our medicaid. Neither eye doc that my son went to accepted medicaid, not even for the two eye surgeries he had done. No specialists that we saw accepted medicaid. So had we not had insurance through my hubs employer we would have either had to pay out of pocket or we would have had to have found a doc that accepted medicaid.

My point is that docs/hospitals do not have to participate in all insurances and that includes medicaid. It will also include the plans on the (un)aca exchanges.

The bolded, above? Yeah, I wonder how long it will be before uncle decides to take that choice away.