Obamacare uses magic to pay for stuff

[Quantum Windbag]

The new rules for contraception finally came out. For the less informed among us, that is the new rules that you insisted already existed. It seems that Obama has solved the problem of religious institutions having to pay for contraceptives and abortifacients by simply declaring that they are free, thus no one has to pay.

No, I am not misrepresenting their position. They said that the employer doesn't have to pay, and, quite obviously, the employee won't have to pay for something that is free, so that obviously leaves the insurer, except they don't have to pay either because it won't cost anything, and they might even save money.

Where have I heard that before?

That just leaves me with one question, if this isn't going to cost anything, why do insurers get to deduct the cost from the fees they pay to sell insurance in the first place?

http://www.ofr.gov/OFRUpload/OFRData/2013-02420_PI.pdf

Yet they keep accusing me of magical thinking.

 

[Papawx3]

The new rules for contraception finally came out. For the less informed among us, that is the new rules that you insisted already existed. It seems that Obama has solved the problem of religious institutions having to pay for contraceptives and abortifacients by simply declaring that they are free, thus no one has to pay.

No, I am not misrepresenting their position. They said that the employer doesn't have to pay, and, quite obviously, the employee won't have to pay for something that is free, so that obviously leaves the insurer, except they don't have to pay either because it won't cost anything, and they might even save money.

Where have I heard that before?

That just leaves me with one question, if this isn't going to cost anything, why do insurers get to deduct the cost from the fees they pay to sell insurance in the first place?

http://www.ofr.gov/OFRUpload/OFRData/2013-02420_PI.pdf

Yet they keep accusing me of magical thinking.

Now all they have to do is to tell the makers of contraceptive devices and products that they have to give them away free of charge to anyone who wants them. I bet that's going to go over real big.

 

[waltky]

Granny says, "Dat's right - don't give `em any money...

Huelskamp: 'Defund the Implementation of Obamacare'
March 5, 2013 - Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-Kan.) says Congress should work to repeal Obamacare -- and in the meantime, it should use its power of the purse to defund the law when it considers another stop-gap measure (continuing resolution) at the end of March.

"[T]he biggest threat to the future of our country fiscally and otherwise is Obamacare -- $1.4 trillion in new spending coming up because of this program," Huelskamp told Fox News's Sean Hannity Monday evening. Defunding Obamacare would save the government "a few billion dollars," Huelskamp said, but beyond that, "it will help millions of Americans keep their current employer-sponsored health insurance, it will stop HHS (Health and Human Services Department) from continuing to implement a very unpopular law that's driving up premiums."

Asked if Republican leaders in the House are supporting such a move, Huelskamp said, "Right now, it doesn't look like they'll let us vote on defunding Obamacare, and I'm disappointed in that. Hopefully there will be some minds changed in the next 24 to 48 hours." Huelskamp also noted that even with the sequester in place, "spending is going to be up this year over last year." "Clearly, spending is the problem and if we change that debate we are making progress," he said.

In a Feb. 26 letter to House Speaker John Boehner and Majority Leader Eric Cantor, Huelskamp and Rep. Jim Bridenstine (R-Ok.) wrote that Obamacare remains unpopular with Americans. "Since much of the implementation of Obamacare is a function of the discretionary appropriations process, and since most of the citizens we represent believe that Obamacare should never go into effect, we urge you to affirmatively de-fund the implementation of Obamacare in any relevant appropriations bill brought to the House floor in the 113th Congress, including any continuing appropriations bill."

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