Now you are pivoting to Bush? When have I ever said anything about Bush? You're out of material man. How about you just admit that you dumped a steaming pile of exaggerated untrue garbage in your OP and we call it a day.
no, just pointing out the fallacies in your arguments. you lefties always want to hold Bush responsible for everything from the day he was sworn to the day Obama was sworn in, but you don't apply the same rules to Obama.
As to the OP, everything in it is true. Obama was a terrible president, and its really sad because as the first black president he could have done so much to heal this nation, instead he divided it like never before.
You haven't pointed out one fallacy in my arguments. If you think bringing up Bush proves a point, that is laughable. I haven't said a word about Bush, if you think I have then provide a quote, otherwise stick to the subject and my comments and stop trying to pivot to a different issue that has nothing to do with me.
ok, simple question: is every president responsible for the debt incurred while he is in office? its a yes or no question.
No:
Ok, then what do you say to the dems and libs who say that Reagan doubled the national debt? Or, are only republican presidents responsible for the debt incurred during their terms?
Of the 9+ trillion added during Obama's 8 years, how much would you say he is responsible for? any of it? half? 3/4? or do you not hold him responsible for anything?
Anybody that uses the broad terms like you and the Reagan critics have been doing only show that yall don't have a clue about what the debt is and how our national economy works. From what I read on this thread, people were using the Reagan example to try and refute your argument and make you look like a hypocrite like you are trying to do with me. Except I don't play the partisan games. Again, i'll go back to saying it is a pointless argument. There is plenty of waste in the government that can be pointed out, but making stupid and inaccurate statements like you did are lies and i'm going to call them out.
If you are asking how much Obama is responsible for, i believe it only fair to look at the spending and policies that he actually put forth and then judge the effects... Here is a good breakdown: The short answer is
$983 billion. Though I haven't fact check all the items listed in the below article. But the methodology is what I agree with.
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During Obama's terms, there was less
Federal income. That because the recession and the
Bush tax cuts reduced tax receipts. At the same time, the cost of
Social Security, Medicare, and other
mandatory programs continued to increase. The
War on Terror, although technically over, was still being fought in Afghanistan and
Iraq.
The fairest method is to measure the debt incurred by Obama's specific policies. The
Congressional Budget Office does this for every program. The CBO found that the largest contributor was the
Obama tax cuts, which were an extension of the Bush tax cuts. They added $858 billion to the debt in 2011 and 2012.
The next largest was
ARRA. It added $787 billion between 2009-2012. It cut taxes, extended
unemployment benefits, and funded job-creating public works projects. Both were attempts to stimulate the economy after the
2008 financial crisis
Also, Obama increased
military spending to around $800 billion a year on average. In fact, his security budget request of $895 billion in FY 2011 set a new record. In FY 213, he requested $851 billion. That happened even though he withdrew troops from Iraq in 2012, and eliminated the threat from Osama bin Laden in 2011. Obama spent $857 billion in contingency funds during his Administration. That was more than the $850 billion Bush devoted to the
War on Terror.
What about the
Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act? It didn't add anything to the debt in Obama's first term. That's because most of its costs began in 2014. That's when it set up
health insurance exchanges and extended coverage to more low-income people. In fact,
tax increases offset costs to the tune of $104 billion between 2010-2019. For more, see
Obamacare Costs.
Congress and Obama also negotiated the
sequestration budget cuts. They cut the deficit a small percent. When all these are added up, Obama's debt contribution was $983 billion between 2009-2017. (Source: Ezra Klein, "
Doing the Math on Obama's Deficits," The Wall Street Journal, January 31, 2014.)
