Obama speaks in generalities...

[Shadow]

Obama did great. This was McCain's crowd. Or at least we all knew McCain was going to say what the crowd wanted to hear.

Thank God most Christians are waking up to the fact that religion isn't only about abortion and gay marriage.

And it seemed like McCain had prior knowledge of the questions. Didn't it seem that way to you?

And McCain is as dry as a bag of salt.

Both cadidates where given the first question before hand. Obama was also given the adoption question before hand,but McCain was not. This per Rick Warren on CNN last night. Both candidates were given a general format of what catagory the questions were taken from. No one cheated LOL. Typical...WAAAAA Obama did pooorly someone obviously cheated WAAAA.

Also the crowd was made up of 550 people from the media. Clearly Obamas peeps.


Any way.....Two more examples of Obama trying to have it both ways.


I don't believe teachers should get pay raises,but they should be rewarded.

I believe in marriage between a man and woman/Just not in the "legal" sence.


What a loon!

 

[sealybobo]

Both Cadidates where given the first question before hand. Obama was also given the Adoption question before hand,but McCain was not. This per Rick Warren on CNN last night. Both candidates were given a general format of what catagory the questions were taken from. No one cheated LOL. Typical...WAAAAA Obama did pooorly some one obviously cheated WAAAA.

Also the crow was made up of 550 people in the media. Clearly Obamas peeps.


Any way.....Two more examples of Obama trying to have it both ways.


I don't believe teachers should get pay raises,but they should be rewarded.

I believe in marriage between a Man and Woman/Just not in the "legal" sence.


What a loon!

You are cockoo.

See, your religion may be anti gay and anti abortion, but who besides you gives a fuck about your religion? By LAW, people should be able to get an abortion and by law you should stay the fuck out of it. Worry about dying soldiers, not my fucking seeds. And just because your religion descriminates against gays, doesn't mean the government should.

See, you can't seperate church and state. Sorry, you are wrong and unamerican. All of you evangelical born agains are.

To me, you are no better than the Taliban. Mind your own fucking business!

 

[Jon]

For once, but without the radical left sentiment, I agree with sealybobo.

Did McCain really denounce the United States when he was a POW? On camera, read a confession saying the US was wrong for occupying Viet Nam? And you guys say Kerry wasn't a hero but this guy was? Just because he got shot down and tortured?

His life was at risk. What a person says with a gun to their head shouldn't be taken to heart. Obama and his wife have denounced America on the national stage, without any duress.

 

[Skull Pilot]

For once, but without the radical left sentiment, I agree with sealybobo.



His life was at risk. What a person says with a gun to their head shouldn't be taken to heart. Obama and his wife have denounced America on the national stage, without any duress.

After countless hours of physical and mental torture, JM broke. I doubt if any of us could have held out. Even after he read the statements you are talking about, he refused to be let out before other POWs. That, son, is character and I don't see any of that in BHO.

No one tortured the obamas and they seem to have plenty of negatives to say about the US

 

[AllieBaba]

They don't have anything whatsoever good to say about America, or Americans. It makes me sick, and a person who thinks there's nothing worth saving in America has no place in the presidency.

Obama doesn't like America, he wants to change it to a socialist system and that is his whole focus.

Thank goodness he's a crappy debater. McCain will tear him apart, if Obama doesn't chicken out first.

 

[sealybobo]

Both cadidates where given the first question before hand. Obama was also given the adoption question before hand,but McCain was not. This per Rick Warren on CNN last night. Both candidates were given a general format of what catagory the questions were taken from. No one cheated LOL. Typical...WAAAAA Obama did pooorly someone obviously cheated WAAAA.

Also the crowd was made up of 550 people from the media. Clearly Obamas peeps.


Any way.....Two more examples of Obama trying to have it both ways.


I don't believe teachers should get pay raises,but they should be rewarded.

I believe in marriage between a man and woman/Just not in the "legal" sence.


What a loon!

YOu don't know that no one cheated, now do you?

"The Obama people must feel that he didn't do quite as well as they might have wanted to in that context, because what they are putting out privately is that McCain may not have been in the cone of silence and may have had some ability to overhear what the questions were to Obama. He seemed so well-prepared."

After hyper-ventilating about this for several paragraphs, Rick Davis then concedes that Mitchell was reporting something that would have been news to most viewers, who were told that McCain was "safely" in a "cone of silence" from which one could possibly hear through the wall (as McCain joked). In fact, for a large part of Obama's interview, McCain was en route in a limo, and not, so far as one can tell, under Warren's peeps' "safe" custody. Now this does not mean, of course, that he was listening to the debate or cheating. I assume he wasn't, or he was an awfully good actor as he groped toward his answers at the beginning. But it's a perfectly legitimate piece of reporting, framed so that the source of the charge is clear, and with the bonus implication from Mitchell that McCain won the "debate."

So why the outrage? Is this a calculated attempt to make media bias an issue for the Obama campaign alone, while it is a matter of record that very very few politicians have cultivated the press as assiduously as McCain? Or is it just the senator blowing a fuse because someone accused him of cheating when he didn't (but could have)? Either way, it's awfully defensive and prickly.

Here's the letter:

The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan

 

[Jon]

After countless hours of physical and mental torture, JM broke. I doubt if any of us could have held out. Even after he read the statements you are talking about, he refused to be let out before other POWs. That, son, is character and I don't see any of that in BHO.

No one tortured the obamas and they seem to have plenty of negatives to say about the US

At least someone else sees things how I see it.

 

[AllieBaba]

I'm not running for president and I know I would have prepared for that interview by going over every one of those issues ahead of time and having a response ready. The questions were tough, but predictable. They were being interviewed by a PASTOR for Pete's sakes. Do you really think they didn't give some consideration (well, McCain, anyway) to what they would say if asked about abortion? Or their faith?

That's the way it works. Obama's so used to be being treated with kid gloves, he loses it when he actually has to think about the hard issues. And obviously, he's given very little thought to the topics which matter most to Americans. That would be because he doesn't give a shit about Americans, period.

 

[sealybobo]

At least someone else sees things how I see it.

McCain stayed because it would have looked very bad with his crew if he got out early because of his daddy. Keep in mind, the only reason he was offered early release was because of daddy.

And he spoke against America. What a pussy. Chuck Norris would have NEVER signed those papers or went on TV to say such things about America.

And, McCain calls all asians gooks now because of his experience in a POW camp.

I really don't think he is mentally fit to serve.

 

[sealybobo]

They don't have anything whatsoever good to say about America, or Americans. It makes me sick, and a person who thinks there's nothing worth saving in America has no place in the presidency.

Obama doesn't like America, he wants to change it to a socialist system and that is his whole focus.

Thank goodness he's a crappy debater. McCain will tear him apart, if Obama doesn't chicken out first.

 

[sealybobo]

I'm not running for president and I know I would have prepared for that interview by going over every one of those issues ahead of time and having a response ready. The questions were tough, but predictable. They were being interviewed by a PASTOR for Pete's sakes. Do you really think they didn't give some consideration (well, McCain, anyway) to what they would say if asked about abortion? Or their faith?

That's the way it works. Obama's so used to be being treated with kid gloves, he loses it when he actually has to think about the hard issues. And obviously, he's given very little thought to the topics which matter most to Americans. That would be because he doesn't give a shit about Americans, period.

I heard Obama did pretty well considering this was GOP territory.

You sound like a petty bitch with your whining.

 

[AllieBaba]

It's not "GOP" territory. Did you watch it, you insolent little worm?The questions were fair, presented in exactly the same manner to both candidates, and the audience was warm to both.

Whether or not Obama wants to pretend Christians don't exist, or are stupid, he's got to face the fact that neither is true, and he's going to have to deal with these issues.

 

[sealybobo]

Sounds like humility to me.

Something we haven't seen in the White House in quite a long time.

You know how the gop say obama's entire energyplan is for us to inflate our tires?

that is as dumb as suggesting mccains entire healthcare plan consists of using sunscren.

So how come the gop can make outragous claims and we can't?

 

[AllieBaba]

Because when we make them we're joking, nimrod.

You guys are serious, and it makes people laugh at you for your foolishness.

 

[KMAN]

I don't want to get to overheated about what occurred tonight, but I do think McCain had a clear and decisive victory over Obama. It all comes down to something that Phil Bredesen, the Democratic governor of Tennessee recently said about Obama: “Instead of giving big speeches at big stadiums, he needs to give straight-up 10-word answers to people at Wal-Mart about how he would improve their lives.”

By that standard, McCain did extremely well and Obama did very poorly. McCain's answers were direct, confident and, most importantly, serious. When asked about what leaders he would consult as president, he first suggested Gen. Petraeus, architect of the surge, who he correctly praised as one of America's all-time great military leaders. By way of contrast, Obama suggested he would seek out the advice of a typical white person, er, his grandmother and his wife Michelle, who's still trying to decide whether she's proud of her country.

When asked "At what point does a baby get human rights, in your view?," McCain answered "At the moment of conception." Obama's answer here was flaming-dirigible bad:

Whether you are looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity is, you know, above my pay grade.

That spectacularly inept metaphor is going to haunt Obama throughout the rest of the campaign. News flash: There's not a job on the planet above the pay grade of the President of the United States. If you can't solve every problem and are humble about it, that's fine — but you can't get away with being unsure about the most defining moral issue in politics. Of course, he didn't put down the shovel:

But let me speak more generally about the issue of abortion. Because this is something, obviously, the country wrestles with. One thing that I’m absolutely convinced of is that there is a moral and ethical element to this issue. And So I think that anybody who tries to deny the moral difficulties and gravity of the abortion issue is not paying attention.

So after completely hedging on the question and declining to give a specific answer — he wants to speak "more generally" about the issue? And, lo and behold, speak more generally he does: "I’m absolutely convinced of is that there is a moral and ethical element to this issue." In related news, Obama is also "absolutely convinced" that the sky is blue, water is wet and puppies are adorable. None of this, however, tells me a thing about his judgment and moral worldview.
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Change and hope are good....

That's because Obama doesn't know what he believes unless someone tells him... That's why his views always change... Kirk makes your point even further... All he talks about is 3 broad things he wants to do, not about how he is going to do it...

That's why Obama doesn't want to debate McCain because McCain will kill him every time.

 

[KMAN]

It's not "GOP" territory. Did you watch it, you insolent little worm?The questions were fair, presented in exactly the same manner to both candidates, and the audience was warm to both.

Whether or not Obama wants to pretend Christians don't exist, or are stupid, he's got to face the fact that neither is true, and he's going to have to deal with these issues.

you just have to take sealybooboo's response with a grain of salt... she is bringing a knife to a gun battle.. But it's not her fault totally, she only know what CBS,NBC, CNN, and NPR tell her... She has never heard the other side and she has no desire to know the other side... These people are on every message board, not as many here though.

 

[KMAN]

You know how the gop say obama's entire energyplan is for us to inflate our tires?

that is as dumb as suggesting mccains entire healthcare plan consists of using sunscren.

So how come the gop can make outragous claims and we can't?

Obama said what he claim he said.... McCain didn't say what you claim he said... hard to dispute our claims when we have the audio to back it up isn't it? Maybe you should try it one time (providing some facts to backup your statements) ... Just a suggestion to make you more credible...good luck.

 

[Shadow]

You are cockoo.

See, your religion may be anti gay and anti abortion, but who besides you gives a fuck about your religion? By LAW, people should be able to get an abortion and by law you should stay the fuck out of it. Worry about dying soldiers, not my fucking seeds. And just because your religion descriminates against gays, doesn't mean the government should.

See, you can't seperate church and state. Sorry, you are wrong and unamerican. All of you evangelical born agains are.

To me, you are no better than the Taliban. Mind your own fucking business!

Uh ohhhh someones gonna cry now...you'd better go eat some worms..

 

[AllieBaba]

And Sealy's rant shows all that is wrong with lefty theory. Someone who protests the murder of innocent, unborn children is every bit as bad as a group of people who target women and children and kill them, who strap bombs to mentally incompetent women and detonate them using remote controls, who saw off the heads of innocent people they have kidnapped off the streets, then air those killings on the internet.

So you can say that those things just don't seem very bad to Sealy. This is what we're talking about when we say there are those who have lost sight of what is right and wrong.

 

[Skull Pilot]

McCain stayed because it would have looked very bad with his crew if he got out early because of his daddy. Keep in mind, the only reason he was offered early release was because of daddy.

And he spoke against America. What a pussy. Chuck Norris would have NEVER signed those papers or went on TV to say such things about America.

And, McCain calls all asians gooks now because of his experience in a POW camp.

I really don't think he is mentally fit to serve.

Hey MORON Chuck Norris is an actor. And last I checked was never subjected to torture.