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NYT Admits CIA & US Special Forces now operating in Ukraine, This is an Illegal Proxy War

LeftofLeft

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Democrats in general are not leftists.
Bernie Sanders is one of the few leftist democrats.
For example, Hillary is right wing fascist.
Democrats as a whole do a pretty good job of appeasing Leftists as Leftist have a good command over the party. With Republicans, the top leaders are RINOS.
 

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We still do.
This is totally wrong to take over the Ukraine government in 2012, steal Russian oil, murder ethnic Russians, and have Kyiv try to put NATO nukes on Russia's border.
All lies.

No one strole oil and there was no state sponsored murder.

There was no effort to put nukes on their border.
 

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No, Russia's war is not illegal because the Ukraine committed a series of acts of war.
First the Ukraine has been stealing billions in oil from Russian pipelines through the Ukraine.
Second is that Kyiv has been supporting the ASOV Battalion to murder ethnic Russians in areas where Russians are the ethnic majority.
Third is that Kyiv has illegally been conspiring with countries hostile to Russia, and trying to get weapons from them, like trying to put NATO nukes on Russia's border.
In 1992, the Ukraine signed treaties with Gorbachev, promising to never align with those hostile to Russia.
It is an illegal war.

No one in their government supporteed murder.

No one in NATO tried to put nukes on Russias border.

No one stole oil you are a proven liar
 

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It is an illegal war.

No one in their government supporteed murder.

No one in NATO tried to put nukes on Russias border.

No one stole oil you are a proven liar

Rigby is a commie.

He loves him some Putin.
 

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And remember when the Right used to oppose Russia?

You can not Support Russia and still oppose war. Your argument would work better if you said that if Trump didn't this the right would support it.

It would in no way excuse the left from condemning this though.
 

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A few months ago, proggies were telling me how stupid I was for saying the US was already in an illegal proxy war with Russia in Ukraine.
They also said I was crazy for saying it was a continuation of the lost proxy war we had against Russia in Syria.
The CIA has been orchestrating these illegal actions that could likely lead to an open shooting war with a nuclear power that has stated they will use them if necessary.
I'll bet less than 5% of the country understand that our country has basically admitted we are at war with Russia & they plan to escalate as soon as necessary.

As Russian troops press ahead with a grinding campaign to seize eastern Ukraine, the nation’s ability to resist the onslaught depends more than ever on help from the United States and its allies — including a stealthy network of commandos and spies rushing to provide weapons, intelligence and training, according to U.S. and European officials.

Much of this work happens outside Ukraine, at bases in Germany, France and Britain, for example. But even as the Biden administration has declared it will not deploy American troops to Ukraine, some C.I.A. personnel have continued to operate in the country secretly, mostly in the capital, Kyiv, directing much of the massive amounts of intelligence the United States is sharing with Ukrainian forces, according to current and former officials.

At the same time, a few dozen commandos from other NATO countries, including Britain, France, Canada and Lithuania, also have been working inside Ukraine.




Its not a secret that they are recieving training from the US. This isnt a story.
 

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Democrats as a whole do a pretty good job of appeasing Leftists as Leftist have a good command over the party. With Republicans, the top leaders are RINOS.

There are no leftists in the DNC at all.
If there were, we would have had public health care, and no foreign wars, long ago.
Hillary's "Arab Spring" was about as right wing as you can get.
 

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NATOs nukes actually work, why would they need to be on Russia's border?

Because the closer they are, the less response time, and response time is required for retargeting.
The idea of putting nukes on Russia's border it that you could in theory eliminate almost all of Russia's retaliatory capability, allowing for first strike, without MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction).
Whether or not it would work, those wanting the Ukraine in NATO, are those who want to start a first strike on Russia.
 

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All lies.

No one strole oil and there was no state sponsored murder.

There was no effort to put nukes on their border.

Wrong.
All you have to do is look up just one case, like the 2012 World Court ruling where the Ukraine was convicted of stealing $20 billion in Russian oil.

If there was no "state sponsored murder" then why did the Azov Battalion murder over 30k ethic Russians in the Donetsk, Crimea, etc.?

The ONLY reason for allowing the Ukraine or Poland into NATO is so that nukes could be put right on Russia's border.
 

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Because the closer they are, the less response time, and response time is required for retargeting.
The idea of putting nukes on Russia's border it that you could in theory eliminate almost all of Russia's retaliatory capability, allowing for first strike, without MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction).
Whether or not it would work, those wanting the Ukraine in NATO, are those who want to start a first strike on Russia.

Because the closer they are, the less response time,

So what?

The idea of putting nukes on Russia's border it that you could in theory eliminate almost all of Russia's retaliatory capability, allowing for first strike,

We didn't do that for over 70 years, but now we'll do it from Ukraine?

No one will notice the hundreds (thousands) of missiles it would take?
 

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Because the closer they are, the less response time, and response time is required for retargeting.
The idea of putting nukes on Russia's border it that you could in theory eliminate almost all of Russia's retaliatory capability, allowing for first strike, without MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction).
Whether or not it would work, those wanting the Ukraine in NATO, are those who want to start a first strike on Russia.
No one has tried to put nukes on their borders since the sixties you moron.
 

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Wrong.
All you have to do is look up just one case, like the 2012 World Court ruling where the Ukraine was convicted of stealing $20 billion in Russian oil.

If there was no "state sponsored murder" then why did the Azov Battalion murder over 30k ethic Russians in the Donetsk, Crimea, etc.?

The ONLY reason for allowing the Ukraine or Poland into NATO is so that nukes could be put right on Russia's border.
Wrong.

They were not convicted or even tried DUMBASS.

There was no state sponsored murder and your claim is a manufactured lie..


There are many other reasons dumbass
NATO has not tried to put nukes on Russias borders since the sixties that is an absolute fact.

You asre proven tyo be a cheap and childish liar
 

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A few months ago, proggies were telling me how stupid I was for saying the US was already in an illegal proxy war with Russia in Ukraine.
They also said I was crazy for saying it was a continuation of the lost proxy war we had against Russia in Syria.
The CIA has been orchestrating these illegal actions that could likely lead to an open shooting war with a nuclear power that has stated they will use them if necessary.
I'll bet less than 5% of the country understand that our country has basically admitted we are at war with Russia & they plan to escalate as soon as necessary.

As Russian troops press ahead with a grinding campaign to seize eastern Ukraine, the nation’s ability to resist the onslaught depends more than ever on help from the United States and its allies — including a stealthy network of commandos and spies rushing to provide weapons, intelligence and training, according to U.S. and European officials.

Much of this work happens outside Ukraine, at bases in Germany, France and Britain, for example. But even as the Biden administration has declared it will not deploy American troops to Ukraine, some C.I.A. personnel have continued to operate in the country secretly, mostly in the capital, Kyiv, directing much of the massive amounts of intelligence the United States is sharing with Ukrainian forces, according to current and former officials.

At the same time, a few dozen commandos from other NATO countries, including Britain, France, Canada and Lithuania, also have been working inside Ukraine.




Always has been
 

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