North East has secound coolest Summer on record,Where is this Global Warming?

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I remember the good old days where Michael Fish (weather presenter) on the TV used to put magnetic symbols of rain, clouds, lightening, temp etc.. on the map of the UK. Now, it's done electronically where the presenter is Infront of a green background hitting a little slideshow button in their hand. And to show how dangerously hot it is, it goes all red.

Frightening stuff this climate change. But the troubling point I see is, Michael Fish used to clap on higher temperatures with no frightening red colours. Why is that Crick , why have red but cooler temperatures created panic amongst the vulnerable in society?
If you think it's unusual to use different colors to indicate different temperatures or that commercial, for-profit media has no interest in increased drama, you've got most of a universe to fix.

Which do you think conveys more and more accurate weather information: Micheal Fish's refrigerator magnets or a high res screen filled with near realtime digital data?
 
If you think it's unusual to use different colours to indicate different temperatures or that commercial, for-profit media has no interest in increased drama, you've got most of a universe to fix.

Which do you think conveys more and more accurate weather information: Michael Fish's refrigerator magnets or a high-res screen filled with near real-time digital data?
Unusual is not what I'm meaning. What was once considered weather and temperature, and folk got on with it, it's now emphasised as horrendous, as dangerous, as extreme etc.. So the question is, how did we survive warmer temperatures without the drama?

Also, do you think we could survive in temperatures that the Dinosaurs thrived in?

(Edit : I corrected your numerous errors in your post to make it English and not American)
 
Unusual is not what I'm meaning. What was once considered weather and temperature, and folk got on with it, it's now emphasised as horrendous, as dangerous, as extreme etc.. So the question is, how did we survive warmer temperatures without the drama?

Also, do you think we could survive in temperatures that the Dinosaurs thrived in?

(Edit : I corrected your numerous errors in your post to make it English and not American)
People's lives are affected by weather extremes. People get killed by weather extremes. Do you see no value in highlighting extraordinary conditions?
 
People's lives are affected by weather extremes. People get killed by weather extremes. Do you see no value in highlighting extraordinary conditions?

But these are normal conditions ... like hurricanes in Florida ... in the past 50 years, there have been 162 tropical cyclones that made landfall in the State of Florida ... better than three per year* ... we don't want to think of New Orleans filling up to the rim, but she does about every 50 years ... normal as normal can be ...

You're confusing non-average with non-normal ... if you can manage to get to high school before you get pregnant, maybe you'll learn how science defines "normal" in terms of standard deviation ... The Captain's right, he is seeing normal weather for the first week of summer in the UK ... certainly non-average, but that's normal for weather ... why we must always be careful with any averages we use for climatology, the standard deviations are out the roof ...

* = Florida has an very very long coastline ... and God specifically placed Florida in the way of hurricanes ... meaning that Florida is an extreme case, like Hawai'i, your State's results may differ ...
 
But these are normal conditions ... like hurricanes in Florida ...
Florida does not spend 24/7/365 under hurricanes. They are not "normal conditions" and no one in Florida would willingly forego being warned about them in advance.
in the past 50 years, there have been 162 tropical cyclones that made landfall in the State of Florida ... better than three per year* ... we don't want to think of New Orleans filling up to the rim, but she does about every 50 years ... normal as normal can be ...
I think you and I are working with different definitions for "normal"
You're confusing non-average with non-normal ...
I would say that you are confusing average with normal. Hurricanes are a good deal more than a 2-sigma deviation from Florida's climatic averages for windspeed and rainfall.
if you can manage to get to high school before you get pregnant, maybe you'll learn how science defines "normal" in terms of standard deviation ...
I just did. That was YOUR failure.
The Captain's right, he is seeing normal weather for the first week of summer in the UK ...
And I showed him that temperatures in the UK have indeed risen, just like the rest of the planet.
certainly non-average, but that's normal for weather ...
Allow me to point out that the term "non-average" is essentially meaningless. If a Florida average of, say, windspeed, includes hurricane winds, those hurricane winds are not "non-average". You are the one who has not yet brought up standard deviation.
why we must always be careful with any averages we use for climatology, the standard deviations are out the roof ...
Standard deviations of what parameter over what time span? 50 years? Of course they're through the roof, temperatures have been moving in a single direction. What did YOU think was happening?
 
Meterologist have stated that this is the secound coolest summer on record ,since records have been kept in America. I ask all the Human Global warming nuts out there, where is the global warming that we should be experiencing.??!!

Summer just stupid.
 
Meterologist have stated that this is the secound coolest summer on record ,since records have been kept in America. I ask all the Human Global warming nuts out there, where is the global warming that we should be experiencing.??!!
I hope you're aware that as of this post, summer began 6 days ago.
 
Meterologist have stated that this is the secound coolest summer on record ,since records have been kept in America. I ask all the Human Global warming nuts out there, where is the global warming that we should be experiencing.??!!
Which means nothing. Nor does the fact that Last July brought the hottest average global temperatures scientists had ever seen. The long term trend of rising global temperatures is significant. By the end of this century we will have enough data to convince the climate change skeptics that God is changing the climate so there’s nothing that needs to be done.
 
Meterologist have stated that this is the secound coolest summer on record ,since records have been kept in America. I ask all the Human Global warming nuts out there, where is the global warming that we should be experiencing.??!!
If you start a thread making a factual claim you are REQUIRED by USMB to provide a link to a reference source. Where is your link to the meteorologists stating this is the second coolest summer on record, particularly since you posted this ONE WEEK BEFORE the start of Summer?
 
People's lives are affected by weather extremes. People get killed by weather extremes. Do you see no value in highlighting extraordinary conditions?
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Weather and climate extremes have been going on since the earth formed, and will continue to do so over the next several billion years.
 
If you start a thread making a factual claim you are REQUIRED by USMB to provide a link to a reference source. Where is your link to the meteorologists stating this is the second coolest summer on record, particularly since you posted this ONE WEEK BEFORE the start of Summer?
The thread is nearly 15 years old.
 
Which means nothing. Nor does the fact that Last July brought the hottest average global temperatures scientists had ever seen. The long term trend of rising global temperatures is significant. By the end of this century we will have enough data to convince the climate change skeptics that God is changing the climate so there’s nothing that needs to be done.
So what will this 'significant' temperature be by the end of the century? What temperature have the scientists claimed it will need to be for human extinction?
 
So what will this 'significant' temperature be by the end of the century? What temperature have the scientists claimed it will need to be for human extinction?
It is certainly possible to humans to be made extinct by a large enough temperature change. But...

“If I had to rate odds, I would say the chances of climate change driving us to the point of human extinction are very low, if not zero,” says Adam Schlosser, the Deputy Director of the MIT Joint Program on the Science and Policy of Global Change and a climate scientist who studies future climate change and its impact on human societies.


And here is one with a little more discussion of what COULD lead to extinction:


The most likely of the very unlikely scenarios is that the collapse of civilization due to an extreme temperature increase could lead to mass starvation, collapse of all infrastructure and then perhaps nuclear war that would drive us extinct.
 
It is certainly possible to humans to be made extinct by a large enough temperature change. But...

“If I had to rate odds, I would say the chances of climate change driving us to the point of human extinction are very low, if not zero,” says Adam Schlosser, the Deputy Director of the MIT Joint Program on the Science and Policy of Global Change and a climate scientist who studies future climate change and its impact on human societies.

Ah right, extinction is now off the table, I wonder what new scientific evidence was found to change their minds, maybe someone tweaked the climate model software.

Have they figured out how the dinosaurs and fauna and flora thrived in high temperatures and in co2 levels at over 10 times the level of today? Or will that require more software tweaking? One thing is certain in their science, they make for great entertainment.
 
Ah right, extinction is now off the table, I wonder what new scientific evidence was found to change their minds, maybe someone tweaked the climate model software.

Have they figured out how the dinosaurs and fauna and flora thrived in high temperatures and in co2 levels at over 10 times the level of today? Or will that require more software tweaking? One thing is certain in their science, they make for great entertainment.
No one in mainstream science ever thought that global warming presented a significant threat of human extinction. That claim came from your side of this debate.

Life survived past swings in temperature and CO2 content because those changes almost alwayys took place over tens or hundreds of thousands of years. When they didn't, we had mass extinctions.
 
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No one in mainstream science ever thought that global warming presented a significant threat of human extinction. That claim came from your side of this debate.

Life survived past swings in temperature and CO2 content because those changes almost always took place over tens or hundreds of thousands of years. When they didn't, we had mass extinctions.
Omg, lol
 
Let's see, we have had less than a month of summer thus far, but it is the second coolest on record? And this wonderful kernal of information is published where?

Look at the date of this post... :oops:....2009

Dang...didn't age well....and since?!!

The climate crusaders have barely moved to ball a yard in the past 15 years. Wind/Solar still at laughable levels of low.:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed:

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Meterologist have stated that this is the secound coolest summer on record ,since records have been kept in America. I ask all the Human Global warming nuts out there, where is the global warming that we should be experiencing.??!!
Really? Is this supposed to be an OP Where the **** is the source? "Meterologist have stated..........: Are you ******* serious.? Thanks for further dragging down the level of dicourse on this board,
 
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