Nobel Peace Prize Man Bad

The Ukraine has very little to do with it.

Regardless of what Trump pretends could make him happy abd regardless of what Russia may think on that, the US is not willing to lose the war against Russia. And likewise vice versa.

Aside from the bullshit, do you have any idea at all on what a deal can be?

Anybody?

I'll just say as a prelude: It's not likely that Russia is going to make a deal that the US could reneg on. And too, it's my opiniion thaat Russia isn't in a hurry.
Russia will wind up with the Donbas. "Territory by conquest" is an historical fact of life on planet earth.
 
Russia will wind up with the Donbas. "Territory by conquest" is an historical fact of life on planet earth.
We can't discuss it if you don't understand that America needs to esstablish a friendly border that 'borders' Russia. Does allowing Russia to keep the Donbass, somehow facilitate that?

Are you thinking of a UN protectorate or similar arrangement?
 
We can't discuss it if you don't understand that America needs to esstablish a friendly border that 'borders' Russia. Does allowing Russia to keep the Donbass, somehow facilitate that?

Are you thinking of a UN protectorate or similar arrangement?
I'm thinking the final red line that Russia won't dare cross.
 
Trump will never receive the prize
 
I'm thinking the final red line that Russia won't dare cross.
I hear you and your opinion.

My opinion is that Russia is currently indicatiing that thee 'isn't' a red line. Kiev is being dismantled, to put it mildly.

What do you mean? Where's the red line?
 
Trump will never receive the prize
I don't see Trump being allowed to grant Russia their minimal demands. However, the other wars are still somewhat negotiable.

The Zionist regime can still have peace but they are going to have to learn to live on land that was granted them. The Brics have established a new pecking order in the ME.

If you don't understand completely, get fully involved.
 
This will finally push the left over the edge. The 34 times convicted felon, sexual assaulter, leader of the Jan 6th insurrectionists who is trying to take democracy away and end elections is going to be getting a Nobel peace prize. How will the left ever process this? This will consume their hatred so much that they will completely forget about telling Americans they have any policies about anything at all. Get the word out - Nobel Peace prize man bad.

The motivations behind one's actions should be a consideration when giving out Nobel peace prizes. trump wants the m dal , that is all. He cares both my about anyone except himself. That is his life in a nutshell . And he is nuts.
 
Ukraine will give up the pipedream of retaking Crimea and let Donbas go. They will give up all possibility of joining NATO. The United States will have a permanent base in Ukraine that will be paid for by giving the US mineral rights. Even though Ukraine will not be a member of NATO they will get Article 5 protections.

Russia gets the ethnic Russian parts of Ukraine and a secure port as well as reduced sanctions.
 
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