DudleySmith
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lol funny. Apparently you want to sell something stupid, like only American coal plants pollute. You know, idiot stuff like that.
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No One Wants Used EVs, Making New Ones a Tougher Sell Too
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lol funny. Apparently you want to sell something stupid, like only American coal plants pollute. You know, idiot stuff like that.
otto105
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Like the hydro powered Hoover Dam...And unsuited for base loading power grids.
They don't give a fuck about your "problem"....Isn't that obvious to you?They are not meaningless. You simply hate foreigners and choose to try to use them as an excuse to stop working on the problem.
No. What's obvious to me is your prejudices.They don't give a fuck about your "problem"....Isn't that obvious to you?
My "prejudices" don't change the fact that China's and India's CO2 emissions have increased by orders of magnitude, while those of the west have declined.No. What's obvious to me is your prejudices.
Face it, you really don't give a fuck about emissions....You want the industrial west knocked down several pegs as some sort of "social justice" grift.
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No One Wants Used EVs, Making New Ones a Tougher Sell Too
(Bloomberg) -- The shift away from cars with dirty combustion engines is running into a new hurdle: Drivers don’t want to buy used electric vehicles, and that’s undermining the market for new ones, too.Most Read from BloombergHyperloop One to Shut Down After Failing to Reinvent TransitTencent...finance.yahoo.com
In the $1.2 trillion secondhand market, prices for battery-powered cars are falling faster than for their combustion-engine cousins. Buyers are shunning them due to a lack of subsidies, a desire to wait for better technology and continued shortfalls in charging infrastructures. A fierce price war sparked by Tesla Inc. and competitive Chinese models are further depressing values of new and used cars alike, threatening earnings at rivals like Volkswagen AG and Stellantis NV.
Because most new vehicles in Europe are sold via leases, automakers and dealers who finance these transactions are trying to recover losses from plummeting valuations by raising borrowing costs. That’s hitting demand in some European markets that were in the vanguard of the shift away from fossil fuel-powered propulsion. Some of the biggest buyers of new cars, including rental firms, are cutting back on EV adoption because they’re losing money on resales, with Sixt SE dropping Tesla models from its fleet.
I can't imagine buying a used EV without a battery warranty, the whole idea of making such a purchase just seems stupid.
.Gov subsidies for cheap cheap China replacement batteries?
There will be no end to the retarded gyrations the whole EV thing will spur.
My son bought a Tesla about three years ago for $65K OTD.
He didn't do it because he is an Environmental Wacko. He did it because with all the Federal and state subsidies and tax breaks and the very high resale market he figured it was a great investment. He fully expected to get a substantial amount of his money back after using the vehicle for three or four years commuting in Atlanta.
That has all fell apart. He thinks he will be lucky to get a fraction of the original cost out of his used Tesla.
He has already written it off as a bad investment. He is thinking about just keeping the vehicle to give to daughter when she is 16 in a couple of years. However, the battery is already showing signs of reduced mileage.
L-I EVs- terrible technology.
leftwinger
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Big huge stackup of heavy batteries that constantly drop the “power storage maximum“ from the minute you drive off the lot.
Cold weather? You’ll be lucky to have 50% range of advertised. Great for going down to the local Kmart But not off on a 1300 mile trip up North.
not for everyone. Elitist like em’
Cold weather? You’ll be lucky to have 50% range of advertised. Great for going down to the local Kmart But not off on a 1300 mile trip up North.
not for everyone. Elitist like em’
I fully agree that current Li-ion EVs are not suitable for long distance travel. However, cold weather range loss is not as great as you suggest. And newer battery technology will change all of that. Toyota's solid state battery has a claimed 750 mile range on a ten minute change. A Chinese EV manufacturer has already demonstrated an EV with a new battery that got 1,000 km on a single charge. When range and charge time exceed what you can do with a gasoline powered car, the game will have changed.Big huge stackup of heavy batteries that constantly drop the “power storage maximum“ from the minute you drive off the lot.
Cold weather? You’ll be lucky to have 50% range of advertised. Great for going down to the local Kmart But not off on a 1300 mile trip up North.
not for everyone. Elitist like em’
Recurrent report shows extent of EV range loss in freezing weather | Auto Remarketing
Freezing temperatures can lower the range of battery electric vehicles by 16-46% depending on the make, model and year, according to the annual winter range report from EV analytics firm Recurrent. The report analyzes 17 popular EV brands in various driving conditions to compare their actual...
www.autoremarketing.com
A Chinese EV company developed a battery with a 1,000km range — and its CEO tested it out on a 14-hour livestream
Mr Li said in a post on Chinese social media site Weibo that his Nio ET7 electric car was able to travel the whole 14-hour journey without recharging.
www.businessinsider.com
Tesla Model S Goes 752 Miles with a Prototype Battery from a Michigan Startup
This 'proof of concept' was meant to show that very long-range, environmentally sustainable battery packs can exist—and ONE, Inc., is about to start building one.
www.caranddriver.com
Hydro power is awesome. If only solar and wind could be more like hydro.Like the hydro powered Hoover Dam...
Except when it isn'tHydro power is awesome. If only solar and wind could be more like hydro.
In the Face of Drought, Hydropower Still Delivers Electricity | Feature | PNNL
Despite severe drought, a new report shows that hydropower remains a strong and steadfast contributor of renewable energy in the West.
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