New Yorker; Christoper Steele, the man behind the Dossier

[meaner gene]

If 70-80 percent of the dossier is true....our president is a Putin Plant.

If my Aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

Mitt Romney was going to be the next secretary of state until somebody changed Trumps mind.

 

[Lakhota]

The OP should be required reading/viewing for every NaziCon in the country!

 

[meaner gene]

Look into the Ohr-Steele connection yourself. Clinton and Obama clearly colluded with the Brits and Russians to influence our Election. They need to be thoroughly investigated.

If Hillary bought and paid for the dossier, why was Steele allowed to give it to the FBI without the owners consent?

 

[Dschrute3]

If 70-80 percent of the dossier is true....our president is a Putin Plant.

If my Aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

They're living in denial. The actual 'Collusion' was between Clinton, Obama, the Brits, and Russians. The Ohr-Steele connection tells the tale. Steele was working for both Clinton and Obama's FBI. There was obvious Collusion with foreign entities to interfere with our Election.

 

[JimH52]

Dear JimH52 Thanks for posting this so I can review both sides.
In general I do not understand why Russians would want to hack
and harm Democrats under Clinton if Russia was benefitting
from corrupt dealings by Clinton to hand Uranium over to Russia.

Either the Russians derailing Democrats, by exposing Clinton's corruption
which is her own fault, could be rebels AGAINST the arming of Putin,
or it could be the Russians didn't want Clinton exposing Trump's dealings
as you believe this article was saying was a legitimate investigation of real threats.

On the other side, the "reports of compromising prostitution stories"
that could be used to blackmail Trump were debunked as baseless.
This article states them as true and used as leverage.

This article says no charges in the dossier "have been refuted."
but the rightwing media is reporting that nothing has been substantiated either!

Furthermore, the rightwing is reporting conflicts of interest
such as the report for by political sources, including a husband/wife
relationship with the wife being hired without disclosing this
up front in applying for a warrant based solely on this "dossier"
paid for by politically biased interests, with blatant conflicts, that stood to gain.

They deliberately omitted such disclosures, masking them
with careful legal language, to justify getting a warrant
without a valid investigation of any substantiated charges.

And here's what the left and your corrupt media won't tell you: the FISA judge was never told that Hillary Clinton was paying for the phony dossier containing Russian intelligence lies about Donald Trump. And they don’t seem to care that it was first used to try to influence an election, then to get a warrant to spy on an opposition candidate.

The incestuous ties between Fusion, Steele, the Clinton campaign and the Obama Justice Department are alarming. Clinton hired Fusion, which hired Steele. Steele was working with the FBI at the same time. The wife of a top Justice Department official, Bruce Ohr, was hired by Fusion to work with Steele.

Which way is it?

Why would Russia have motives to either derail Clinton
if the uranium deals were so beneficial?

The common factor in any of these charges of "collusion"
is Clinton wanting to bring down Trump to get elected.

The other arguments seem to run into conflicts,
where there was no motivation for those things to take place.

I don't get it, can someone please explain it to me
in other terms besides Democrats trying to derail Trump???

Lots of questions there, and not practical to try answering all at once. You can mark that one about Hillary selling uranium to Russia off the list. That never happened. I won't go into all the reasons why it would be impossible for Hillary to do what the right accuses her of, because it's been posted and explained ad nauseam. You might have missed that if you only watch some of fox, but all other networks covered that completely. Even Shepard Smith of fox said the right wing claims were lies, but most don't really consider him to be in the fox bubble

A Fox News host has infuriated viewers after debunking their favourite Hillary Clinton 'scandal'

Thank you for your explanation and references BULLDOG
I will check with other sources to see if they had this information
when they concluded the claims of conflicts of interest are valid against Clinton.

I looked up how Snopes described it, and although they
list it as "unsubstantiated" the players and money involved
do give a clear APPEARANCE of a conflict of interest:
FACT CHECK: Hillary Clinton Gave 20 Percent of United States' Uranium to Russia in Exchange for Clinton Foundation Donations?

When that much is at stake with such high offices,
honest people I know with common sense AVOID the transactions
because it even LOOKS questionable and suspicious.

So anyone like Obama and Clinton who "engages in business
that seems in conflict with govt duties" either doesn't KNOW or doesn't CARE
and both counts are dangerous and not consistent with govt duty.

When in doubt, such leaders should know to turn down offers
that even APPEAR to be conflicts of interest and common sense ethics.

So they helped create this perception of wrongdoing and abuse,
whether legally they can claim there was no impropriety. It clearly looks improper,
and thus should be avoided for that reason.

As for claims accusing Clinton and Trump they both deny are inflated
and false, it will be interesting to see which people can really answer
and prove what is real or not.

It seems to me if there was real dirt on Trump it would have come
up sooner so Clinton could clinch the election. The Clinton camp
does not play polite, waiting on things to be proven before announcing.
If they had found any proof that Obama was lying about his birth certificate,
they would have used that to void his nomination so Hillary could win.

And likewise with Trump.

He would already be taken down by now.
He does not have legal lobbies and corporate plants
in govt to prop him up and cover the messes he makes or leaves.

Why didn't Clinton already pull those cards before
the election so she could bring down Trump and win??

Putin is selecting our president and Secretary of State and you are talking uranium.....REALLY?

 

[JimH52]

The actual 'Collusion' was between Clinton, Obama, the Brits, and Russians. All folks need to do is look into the Ohr-Steele connection. Why it isn't being investigated, is just truly shocking. I guess the fix really is in. It's only about getting Donald Trump.

Steele has no reason to be a political pundit or operative. He knows the health of Great Britian is dependent on the independence and intelligence of the United States. What he found out about trump has frightened him to a point that he brought his findings to the FBI.

Little did he realise that he would be battling the Republican political machine. In their ignorance or complicity....they have chose to believe the Putin Plant. They are committing treason against the United States.

Look into the Ohr-Steele connection yourself. Clinton and Obama clearly colluded with the Brits and Russians to influence our Election. They need to be thoroughly investigated.

Deflect much?

 

[Dschrute3]

Look into the Ohr-Steele connection yourself. Clinton and Obama clearly colluded with the Brits and Russians to influence our Election. They need to be thoroughly investigated.

If Hillary bought and paid for the dossier, why was Steele allowed to give it to the FBI without the owners consent?

Steele was working for both Clinton and Obama's FBI. The Ohr's were the go-between. Bruce Ohr was Obama's Deputy Attorney General at the time. His wife worked for the same Fusion GPS Christopher Steele worked for. There was clearly Collusion with foreign entities to influence our Election.

 

[Lakhota]

Hillary wasn't even aware of the dossier until Buzzfeed published it.

Hillary Clinton unaware of dossier before it published - CNNPolitics

 

[meaner gene]

If Hillary bought and paid for the dossier, why was Steele allowed to give it to the FBI without the owners consent?

Steele was working for both Clinton and Obama's FBI. The Ohr's were the go-between. Bruce Ohr was Obama's Deputy Attorney General at the time. His wife worked for the same Fusion GPS Christopher Steele worked for. There was clearly Collusion with foreign entities to influence our Election.

That doesn't answer the question. If you claim Hillary paid for it, she owned it. Why was Steele allowed to give somebody elses property to the FBI?

 

[Dschrute3]

The actual 'Collusion' was between Clinton, Obama, the Brits, and Russians. All folks need to do is look into the Ohr-Steele connection. Why it isn't being investigated, is just truly shocking. I guess the fix really is in. It's only about getting Donald Trump.

Steele has no reason to be a political pundit or operative. He knows the health of Great Britian is dependent on the independence and intelligence of the United States. What he found out about trump has frightened him to a point that he brought his findings to the FBI.

Little did he realise that he would be battling the Republican political machine. In their ignorance or complicity....they have chose to believe the Putin Plant. They are committing treason against the United States.

Look into the Ohr-Steele connection yourself. Clinton and Obama clearly colluded with the Brits and Russians to influence our Election. They need to be thoroughly investigated.

Deflect much?

So you aren't really concerned about 'Collusion, are you? You just wanna get your Boogeyman Trump. You're very disingenuous.

 

[JimH52]

Hillary wasn't even aware of the dossier until Buzzfeed published it.

Hillary Clinton unaware of dossier before it published - CNNPolitics

So that blows that conspiracy theory up. These people defending trump and Putin n are either Russians are very stupid...

 

[meaner gene]

So you aren't really concerned about 'Collusion, are you? You just wanna get your Boogeyman Trump. You're very disingenuous.

Hillary didn't even know about the dossier before it was published. If she paid for it, isn't that larceny?

 

[bendog]

Christopher Steele, the Man Behind the Trump Dossier

This is one of the most chilling articles I have ever listened to. Please take a hour and fifty minutes out of your day and listen to it. The FBI was warned about Trump months before his election and they did nothing. They used two standards when dealing with Clinton and Trump.

-They told voters just eight days before the election that more Hillary emails had been found and that she was again under investigation....and yet Trump and his association with Russia had been under investigation for months and not a peep. How can he can anyone argue that the FBI, a historically conservative organization, could be bias towards Clinton when they hid the fact that Trump was under investigation?

Again, please read or listen to this reporting. We have been invaded and are under the influence of Putin as I type. When Trump won....Putin won.

Yeah, it's not a new thought to me. But imo it's more to do with Comey's incompetence. It was not the FBI's role to do anything to help or hinder either. Obama probably should have let the cat out of the bag, but he thought Hillary would win, and didn't want to tarnish his legacy by appearing to use the Office to help her. I think Comey's ego was just so large that when he learned some in the FBI were making noise about Wiener's laptop, he HAD to make some statement since he PERSONALLY concluded, after speaking with DOJ prosecutors, that Hillary should not be charged over the emails.

Comey's proper response to any FBI employee mad about Hillary's emails or Weiners computer was "have your desk cleaned out by noon, and you can talk the press after that."

A perfect storm.

 

[Dschrute3]

If Hillary bought and paid for the dossier, why was Steele allowed to give it to the FBI without the owners consent?

Steele was working for both Clinton and Obama's FBI. The Ohr's were the go-between. Bruce Ohr was Obama's Deputy Attorney General at the time. His wife worked for the same Fusion GPS Christopher Steele worked for. There was clearly Collusion with foreign entities to influence our Election.

That doesn't answer the question. If you claim Hillary paid for it, she owned it. Why was Steele allowed to give somebody elses property to the FBI?

Steele was working for both. He was an employee. It's clear from the Ohr-Steele connection, that Collusion did occur between Clinton, Obama, the Brits, and Russians. They did collude with foreign entities to influence our Election.

 

[meaner gene]

Steele was working for both. He was an employee. It's clear from the Ohr-Steele connection, that Collusion did occur between Clinton, Obama, the Brits, and Russians. They did collude with foreign entities to influence our Election.

But if Hillary paid for the dossier, that work product belonged to Clinton. It's like Trump hiring a ghost writer to write "art of the deal" and that person starts giving out copies of the book.

 

[Lakhota]

Hillary wasn't even aware of the dossier until Buzzfeed published it.

Hillary Clinton unaware of dossier before it published - CNNPolitics

So that blows that conspiracy theory up. These people defending trump and Putin n are either Russians are very stupid...

I choose both.

 

[Dschrute3]

Hillary wasn't even aware of the dossier until Buzzfeed published it.

Hillary Clinton unaware of dossier before it published - CNNPolitics

So that blows that conspiracy theory up. These people defending trump and Putin n are either Russians are very stupid...

That hasn't been officially or sufficiently investigated yet. But we do know the Steele dossier was shared with the Obama Administration and the FBI. They used it as a justification for surveillance on Trump. Bruce Ohr and his wife were the go-between with Steele and the FBI. There was clear collusion. Clinton and Obama need to be thoroughly investigated.

 

[bendog]

So you aren't really concerned about 'Collusion, are you? You just wanna get your Boogeyman Trump. You're very disingenuous.

Hillary didn't even know about the dossier before it was published. If she paid for it, isn't that larceny?

It's certainly incompetence as a politician. But we knew that already.

 

[bendog]

Hillary wasn't even aware of the dossier until Buzzfeed published it.

Hillary Clinton unaware of dossier before it published - CNNPolitics

So that blows that conspiracy theory up. These people defending trump and Putin n are either Russians are very stupid...

That hasn't been officially or sufficiently investigated yet. But we do know the Steele dossier was shared with the Obama Administration and the FBI. They used it as a justification for surveillance on Trump. Bruce Ohr and his wife were the go-between with Steele and the FBI. There was clear collusion. Clinton and Obama need to be thoroughly investigated.

Yes we need to know why Obama didn't order the FBI to more thoroughly investigate the Trump-Assange-Putin connection before the election.

 

[dudmuck]

If Hillary bought and paid for the dossier, why was Steele allowed to give it to the FBI without the owners consent?

Steele was working for both Clinton and Obama's FBI. The Ohr's were the go-between. Bruce Ohr was Obama's Deputy Attorney General at the time. His wife worked for the same Fusion GPS Christopher Steele worked for. There was clearly Collusion with foreign entities to influence our Election.

That doesn't answer the question. If you claim Hillary paid for it, she owned it. Why was Steele allowed to give somebody elses property to the FBI?

Steele was working for both. He was an employee. It's clear from the Ohr-Steele connection, that Collusion did occur between Clinton, Obama, the Brits, and Russians. They did collude with foreign entities to influence our Election.

The only way they could have influenced the election is if the existence of the dossier was public knowledge prior to election. Mother Jones published a report on it, a week before voting, but nobody knew about it because mainstream media didnt report on it, and the dossier itself was not published then.
It wasnt until Jan 10, 2017 that buzzfeed published the dossier. It was only then (after the election) that anybody knew about the dossier.
Unless you can prove that we knew about dossier before voting?
Doubtful, since the dossier was started by republicans before primary.

 

[Lakhota]

Jane Mayer should receive a Pulitzer Prize for her masterpiece of journalism.