New York Times and why the American ignorance re: Palestinian efforts to secure their freedom

[louie888]

This should be read and understood by all here. The author makes multiple important points.

Palestinians seek safety from Israeli occupation forces firing tear gas and other weapons at worshippers in the al-Aqsa mosque compound in Jerusalem’s Old City, 27 July.

A New York Times headline on 24 July is representative of why there is continued American ignorance regarding Palestinian efforts to secure their freedom.

“Mosque crisis and Jordan attack raise fears of escalating violence in Israel,” it declares.

Written by Isabel Kershner, the text places the violence “in and around East Jerusalem.” Yet the headline tells a false story, since, as the UN Security Council recently affirmed, East Jerusalem is part of the West Bank territory Israel occupied in 1967 – and therefore not part of an expanded Israel.

A New York Times news quiz takes a similar approach, referring in its headline...
NEWS NOT FIT TO PRINT

 

[P F Tinmore]

Indeed, the high support Israel enjoys in the US is because the people have been mislead.

 

[Kosh]

The New York times is a far left rag that could care less about news and the truth..

 

[Hollie]

Indeed, the high support Israel enjoys in the US is because the people have been mislead.

Indeed, another of your silly conspiracy theories. Support for Israel had much to do with common / shared interests, especially now as those of us here in the Great Satan witness the carnage that Islamism is inflicting on Europe.

You have been mislead by the indoctrination you have received as a part of your time spent at the madrassah.

 

[Hollie]

This should be read and understood by all here. The author makes multiple important points.

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Palestinians seek safety from Israeli occupation forces firing tear gas and other weapons at worshippers in the al-Aqsa mosque compound in Jerusalem’s Old City, 27 July.

A New York Times headline on 24 July is representative of why there is continued American ignorance regarding Palestinian efforts to secure their freedom.

“Mosque crisis and Jordan attack raise fears of escalating violence in Israel,” it declares.

Written by Isabel Kershner, the text places the violence “in and around East Jerusalem.” Yet the headline tells a false story, since, as the UN Security Council recently affirmed, East Jerusalem is part of the West Bank territory Israel occupied in 1967 – and therefore not part of an expanded Israel.

A New York Times news quiz takes a similar approach, referring in its headline...
NEWS NOT FIT TO PRINT

Tear gas is pretty innocuous when compared to Islamic terrorists with automatic weapons.

 

[louie888]

Support for Israel had much to do with common / shared interests...

Oh, come, come now. That is just another silly piece of hasbara nonsense. We see you people repeat that crap daily.

Even in the US, most view israel negatively. We had a thread on this...
Israel Most Negative Ratings in BBC Global Poll

And, look at how the fake news times writes it's stories, how it portrays the entire situation... the ny times IS HASBARA!

I hope we can stay on topic. Lot's of great points in the OP.

 

[Boston1]

I love it.
Where to begin

OK Israel is NOT occupying anything within the mandated area. They are at war with an aggressor who refuses to make peace.

The Arab population within the mandated area has complete control of roughly 75% of that area

As I recall Jordan is in charge of the Temple Mount and as such is responsible for all violent acts.

Isn't the UN security council the same outfit that recently declared Jerusalem, wasn't a jewish cultural heritage site LOL

I'm always surprised Israel doesn't bulldoze the, what is it, 75 year old ? 150 year old shack up there and rebuild the temple like they should have decades ago.

Cheers

 

[louie888]

LOL, you must read the times.

OK Israel is NOT occupying anything within the mandated area. They are at war with an aggressor who refuses to make peace.

False and backwards.

As I recall Jordan is in charge of the Temple Mount and as such is responsible for all violent acts

There are jews with guns there daily, both civilian and military.

Isn't the UN security council the same outfit that recently declared Jerusalem, wasn't a jewish cultural heritage site LOL

No.

I'm always surprised Israel doesn't bulldoze the, what is it, 75 year old ? 150 year old shack up there and rebuild the temple like they should have decades ago.

They are trying, but the whole idea of the nearly 2 billion Muslims actually wiping them off the map is frustrating them.

And lol at 75-150 years. That shows your knowledge of this topic perfectly.

Stop reading the times and **** msm in America. You get the israeli jewish narrative, nothing more.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Indeed, the high support Israel enjoys in the US is because the people have been mislead.

Indeed, another of your silly conspiracy theories. Support for Israel had much to do with common / shared interests, especially now as those of us here in the Great Satan witness the carnage that Islamism is inflicting on Europe.

You have been mislead by the indoctrination you have received as a part of your time spent at the madrassah.

Killing, stealing, and lying are shared interests?

Not for the Americans I know. (Well maybe for our political class.)

 

[Indeependent]

The New York Times is historically a self-hating Jew publication.

 

[jillian]

I love it.
Where to begin

OK Israel is NOT occupying anything within the mandated area. They are at war with an aggressor who refuses to make peace.

The Arab population within the mandated area has complete control of roughly 75% of that area

As I recall Jordan is in charge of the Temple Mount and as such is responsible for all violent acts.

Isn't the UN security council the same outfit that recently declared Jerusalem, wasn't a jewish cultural heritage site LOL

I'm always surprised Israel doesn't bulldoze the, what is it, 75 year old ? 150 year old shack up there and rebuild the temple like they should have decades ago.

Cheers

I always had to marvel at the fact that they were allowed to throw a mosque on the Temple Mount. if it had been the other way around, loons like the o.p would have had a nervous breakdown.

 

[Indeependent]

I love it.
Where to begin

OK Israel is NOT occupying anything within the mandated area. They are at war with an aggressor who refuses to make peace.

The Arab population within the mandated area has complete control of roughly 75% of that area

As I recall Jordan is in charge of the Temple Mount and as such is responsible for all violent acts.

Isn't the UN security council the same outfit that recently declared Jerusalem, wasn't a jewish cultural heritage site LOL

I'm always surprised Israel doesn't bulldoze the, what is it, 75 year old ? 150 year old shack up there and rebuild the temple like they should have decades ago.

Cheers

Hey! I was wondering where you went off to. Nice to see you back!

 

[Yarddog]

This should be read and understood by all here. The author makes multiple important points.

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Palestinians seek safety from Israeli occupation forces firing tear gas and other weapons at worshippers in the al-Aqsa mosque compound in Jerusalem’s Old City, 27 July.

A New York Times headline on 24 July is representative of why there is continued American ignorance regarding Palestinian efforts to secure their freedom.

“Mosque crisis and Jordan attack raise fears of escalating violence in Israel,” it declares.

Written by Isabel Kershner, the text places the violence “in and around East Jerusalem.” Yet the headline tells a false story, since, as the UN Security Council recently affirmed, East Jerusalem is part of the West Bank territory Israel occupied in 1967 – and therefore not part of an expanded Israel.

A New York Times news quiz takes a similar approach, referring in its headline...
NEWS NOT FIT TO PRINT

Sure sure, I'm sure the Israelis saw those women and kids and said, "yeah, lets shoot some tear gas canisters at them"

If you read the article ,there was violence / violent protest because Israel wants to put up metal detectors. Hmmm, any clue as to why they would want to do that? maybe its because people are sneaking knives under their burquas to stab people, or maybe a bomb or two?

first of all suicide belts kill Palestinians as well when they go off, so Palestinians should be happy the Jews are willing to install them for free. Explain how installing metal detectors which are meant to prevent violence and death somehow stoke violent protest.

The only logical conclusion is that the people instigating the violence are the same people who have something to gain by smuggling weapons through.

Also explain why if the Israelis are shooting tear gas at protestors, we get a photo of some women running and a girl but we don't see any photos of the violence. I'll tell you why, because its a propaganda photo. The woman has a panicked look on her face running towards the camera man but you can see other people off in the distance who are calm and just chilling in the back ground, one guy is standing there taking pictures with his cell phone. They got a little smoke but this is just a piece to show how the Jews are picking on women and kids. get real

 

[Yarddog]

I love it.
Where to begin

OK Israel is NOT occupying anything within the mandated area. They are at war with an aggressor who refuses to make peace.

The Arab population within the mandated area has complete control of roughly 75% of that area

As I recall Jordan is in charge of the Temple Mount and as such is responsible for all violent acts.

Isn't the UN security council the same outfit that recently declared Jerusalem, wasn't a jewish cultural heritage site LOL

I'm always surprised Israel doesn't bulldoze the, what is it, 75 year old ? 150 year old shack up there and rebuild the temple like they should have decades ago.

Cheers

I always had to marvel at the fact that they were allowed to throw a mosque on the Temple Mount. if it had been the other way around, loons like the o.p would have had a nervous breakdown.

you mean like a Jewish temple at Mecca?

 

[jillian]

I love it.
Where to begin

OK Israel is NOT occupying anything within the mandated area. They are at war with an aggressor who refuses to make peace.

The Arab population within the mandated area has complete control of roughly 75% of that area

As I recall Jordan is in charge of the Temple Mount and as such is responsible for all violent acts.

Isn't the UN security council the same outfit that recently declared Jerusalem, wasn't a jewish cultural heritage site LOL

I'm always surprised Israel doesn't bulldoze the, what is it, 75 year old ? 150 year old shack up there and rebuild the temple like they should have decades ago.

Cheers

I always had to marvel at the fact that they were allowed to throw a mosque on the Temple Mount. if it had been the other way around, loons like the o.p would have had a nervous breakdown.

you mean like a Jewish temple at Mecca?

yeah, kind of like that.

 

[louie888]

Obviously, a bunch of fake news readers of the ny times. You people have not begun to grasp all that was shown in the OP.

 

[jillian]

The New York Times is historically a self-hating Jew publication.

the sulzbergers might disagree with that

 

[Indeependent]

The New York Times is historically a self-hating Jew publication.

the sulzbergers might disagree with that

Let them...the NYT is what it is.
And Thomas L Friedman is a piece of garbage.

 

[jillian]

The New York Times is historically a self-hating Jew publication.

the sulzbergers might disagree with that

Let them...the NYT is what it is.
And Thomas L Friedman is a piece of garbage.

I don't have to agree with anyone's opinions on all issues. I love my times crossword puzzle in the morning.

 

[louie888]

From the article in the OP... focus...

Laundering Israeli land theft

In another recent article – effectively a PR piece for the Israeli army – the newspaper also apparently awards part of Syria to Israel: “This week, the Israeli military revealed the scope of the humanitarian aid project, which it calls Operation Good Neighbor and which began in June 2016 along the Israeli-Syrian boundary on the Golan Heights.”


This suggests that this is a border between Israel and Syria. It isn’t. It is a ceasefire line entirely within the occupied Golan Heights, which is Syrian territory. Again, Israel’s 1981 annexation of the territory, which it also occupied in 1967, was declared by the UN Security Council to be “null and void.”


Yet a caption accompanying the article refers to the “Israeli-annexed Golan Heights.”

At one point Kershner does mention that “Israel captured” the Golan Heights “from Syria in the 1967 war.”

The article also states: “The humanitarian effort is likely to burnish the reputation of the Israeli military, which is usually viewed as an occupying force and formidable war machine.”

This is the only mention of occupation and it presents it not as a fact, but merely as a perspective held by people who don’t like Israel and whose view ought presumably to be viewed with suspicion.

Kershner refers elsewhere to the “Israeli-controlled Golan Heights.”

All of this suggests that instead of reporting the facts about the international status of the territory, The New York Times seeks to launder and support Israel’s claims with deceptive language that explicitly omits references to occupation.

This puts into perspective Kershner’s use of the term “Israeli-annexed” to describe occupied East Jerusalem. Similarly misleading language about the West Bank can be anticipated. In fact, it’s already occurring.