Nearly 1,000 inmates are helping to fight the L.A. wildfires. The ethics are complicated

[shockedcanadian]

$10 A day for inmates risking their lives. If it helps them decrease their prison time I suppose it makes sense, borderline ethical though, more like exploitation for a job that normally.pays 6.figures. Help these misguided men rehabilitate where possible, give them direction,don't throw them away unless they are too far gone. This is one area where Europe is far more civilized and advanced than we are in the North America. It does give them purpose though, which is what men want. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/inmates-firefighters-la-fires-1.7429589
Firefighters are racing to contain the wildfires that continue to devastate Los Angeles, putting their lives at risk as flames reduce entire neighbourhoods to smouldering ruins.

Among them are some 950 inmates from California's prison system who are helping to fight the fires for about $10 a day.

The California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation's (CDCR) Conservation (Fire) Camp Program allows incarcerated people to shorten their sentences by working as firefighters — not an uncommon practice in the United States. They make up about 30 per cent of California's wildfire-fighting force, notes the L.A. Times. ,,................."To all those folks out there who don't think our formerly incarcerated brothers and sister should not be able to vote or live in your neighbourhoods, just remember who was up on your hill saving your home," commented an Instagram user on an update posted by California Corrections.

 

[MarcATL]

Good stuff.

 

[Woodznutz]

$10 A day for inmates risking their lives. If it helps them decrease their prison time I suppose it makes sense, borderline ethical though, more like exploitation for a job that normally.pays 6.figures. Help these misguided men rehabilitate where possible, give them direction,don't throw them away unless they are too far gone. This is one area where Europe is far more civilized and advanced than we are in the North America. It does give them purpose though, which is what men want. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/inmates-firefighters-la-fires-1.7429589
Firefighters are racing to contain the wildfires that continue to devastate Los Angeles, putting their lives at risk as flames reduce entire neighbourhoods to smouldering ruins.

Among them are some 950 inmates from California's prison system who are helping to fight the fires for about $10 a day.

The California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation's (CDCR) Conservation (Fire) Camp Program allows incarcerated people to shorten their sentences by working as firefighters — not an uncommon practice in the United States. They make up about 30 per cent of California's wildfire-fighting force, notes the L.A. Times. ,,................."To all those folks out there who don't think our formerly incarcerated brothers and sister should not be able to vote or live in your neighbourhoods, just remember who was up on your hill saving your home," commented an Instagram user on an update posted by California Corrections.

Great program and such work is voluntary. Our low-risk prisoners used to work on the lake weed harvesters until the liberals got control and shut it down. Since then, county workers have been laid off due to budget cuts. Our lakes are a weed-choked mess. With more operators the few machines that we have could work more hours, remove more weeds.

 

[westwall]

$10 A day for inmates risking their lives. If it helps them decrease their prison time I suppose it makes sense, borderline ethical though, more like exploitation for a job that normally.pays 6.figures. Help these misguided men rehabilitate where possible, give them direction,don't throw them away unless they are too far gone. This is one area where Europe is far more civilized and advanced than we are in the North America. It does give them purpose though, which is what men want. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/inmates-firefighters-la-fires-1.7429589
Firefighters are racing to contain the wildfires that continue to devastate Los Angeles, putting their lives at risk as flames reduce entire neighbourhoods to smouldering ruins.

Among them are some 950 inmates from California's prison system who are helping to fight the fires for about $10 a day.

The California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation's (CDCR) Conservation (Fire) Camp Program allows incarcerated people to shorten their sentences by working as firefighters — not an uncommon practice in the United States. They make up about 30 per cent of California's wildfire-fighting force, notes the L.A. Times. ,,................."To all those folks out there who don't think our formerly incarcerated brothers and sister should not be able to vote or live in your neighbourhoods, just remember who was up on your hill saving your home," commented an Instagram user on an update posted by California Corrections.

Trust me, having worked alongside them, they are ECSTATIC to be on the outside.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Trust me, having worked alongside them, they are ECSTATIC to be on the outside.

I don't doubt it but they deserve danger pay at the very least. I din't know what the rate should be for a full day but at least minimum wage. Exploiting mans desperation and dispondance cannot be holy. Perhaps these.wealthy,.some whose.homes.might be saved due to their efforts in the fzce.of danger, might encourae legitimate second chances for men who have earned it and can be saved. We cannot keep amputating mans spirit and expect that the world is more divine or safe

 

[Woodznutz]

I don't doubt it but they deserve danger pay at the very least. I din't know what the rate should be for a full day but at least minimum wage. Exploiting mans desperation and dispondance cannot be holy. Perhaps these.wealthy,.some whose.homes.might be saved due to their efforts in the fzce.of danger, might encourae legitimate second chances for men who have earned it and can be saved. We cannot keep amputating mans spirit and expect that the world is more divine or safe

The miscreants I have known thrive on dangerous activities. That's a big reason they're behind bars in the first place.

 

[westwall]

I don't doubt it but they deserve danger pay at the very least. I din't know what the rate should be for a full day but at least minimum wage. Exploiting mans desperation and dispondance cannot be holy. Perhaps these.wealthy,.some whose.homes.might be saved due to their efforts in the fzce.of danger, might encourae legitimate second chances for men who have earned it and can be saved. We cannot keep amputating mans spirit and expect that the world is more divine or safe

They broke laws and hurt people. This is how they pay their debt to society. The rich people are paying private firefighters 2000 per hour.

 

[egp320i]

suppose you can look at this as canon fodder, yeah send the criminals in first

oh no we lost a few, that saves taxpayer dollars

now back to the front, you will die when I say you must die.....

 

[The Duke]

$10 A day for inmates risking their lives. If it helps them decrease their prison time I suppose it makes sense, borderline ethical though, more like exploitation for a job that normally.pays 6.figures. Help these misguided men rehabilitate where possible, give them direction,don't throw them away unless they are too far gone. This is one area where Europe is far more civilized and advanced than we are in the North America. It does give them purpose though, which is what men want. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/inmates-firefighters-la-fires-1.7429589
Firefighters are racing to contain the wildfires that continue to devastate Los Angeles, putting their lives at risk as flames reduce entire neighbourhoods to smouldering ruins.

Among them are some 950 inmates from California's prison system who are helping to fight the fires for about $10 a day.

The California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation's (CDCR) Conservation (Fire) Camp Program allows incarcerated people to shorten their sentences by working as firefighters — not an uncommon practice in the United States. They make up about 30 per cent of California's wildfire-fighting force, notes the L.A. Times. ,,................."To all those folks out there who don't think our formerly incarcerated brothers and sister should not be able to vote or live in your neighbourhoods, just remember who was up on your hill saving your home," commented an Instagram user on an update posted by California Corrections.

Do they get triple time off for that? They should.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Any of them capitol riot prisoners?

 

[The Duke]

Any of them capitol riot prisoners?

No. That's different.

 

[Woodznutz]

Clearing brush isn't very dangerous.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Clearing brush isn't very dangerous.

But it hurts the twigs. The twigs don’t belong to us, we belong to the twigs. Isn’t that what they say in Oregon and Washington and California?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I don't have a problem with this. Probably low safety risks and they're contributing to society

 

[Sunni Man]

The prison inmates are loving it.
Instead of being locked up in a cramped cell.
Getting to be out in the fresh air.
Eating better food plus $10 a day.
Time deducted of their sentence.
What's not to like?

 

[Sunni Man]

$10 A day for inmates risking their lives. If it helps them decrease their prison time I suppose it makes sense, borderline ethical though, more like exploitation for a job that normally.pays 6 figures.

It cost over $50,000 per year to house an inmate.
So they are lucky to be getting $10 bucks a day.
The winner in using cheap inmate labor is the American taxpayer

 

[Woodznutz]

It cost over $50,000 per year to house an inmate.
So they are lucky to be getting $10 bucks a day.
The winner in using cheap inmate labor is the American taxpayer

And I'll bet that some prison workers would rather be doing something else. Workers in the CJS have high rates of depression, divorce, even suicide.

 

[Sunni Man]

And I'll bet that some prison workers would rather be doing something else

Isn't how many people working a job feel ?