NASA admits they can't send a human to Mars

[MarkDuffy]

What is so effing special about Mars? It is cold and dry with no atmosphere.

Venus could work. You would just need an air conditioner with a filter. Heck, cars in Los Angeles already have the technology.

Venus surface pressure is 90 atmospheres. It is not only hotter than Mercury, it would crush most landers (re russian attempts). More pressure protection = more mass = much more dollars to do it.

Also it is impossible to even see your hand in front of your face.

Definitely Venus is a planet for robots.

Ok, 90 atm is about 3000' water depth pressures. Not a problem for construction of a habitat. The engineering works at much greater water depths/pressures. A filter system which only allows oxygen in is possible. Landing something of that size would be an effort, but Venus is closer than Mars with a shorter travel time.

Did I forget to say that the atmosphere of Venus is also corrosive?

Land, do yer thing & get the hell outta Dodge FAST

 

[Divine Wind]

Bu...bu....but what about how we're all gonna die from global warming?

Who told you that BS? rush?

What are you republicans doing in a thread about science, anyway?

republican method of getting to Mars.

1) Put aspirin between your knees

2) Pray

A Left Wing Looney.

I'm not a Republican. Try again.

 

[percysunshine]

What is so effing special about Mars? It is cold and dry with no atmosphere.

Venus could work. You would just need an air conditioner with a filter. Heck, cars in Los Angeles already have the technology.

Venus surface pressure is 90 atmospheres. It is not only hotter than Mercury, it would crush most landers (re russian attempts). More pressure protection = more mass = much more dollars to do it.

Also it is impossible to even see your hand in front of your face.

Definitely Venus is a planet for robots.

Ok, 90 atm is about 3000' water depth pressures. Not a problem for construction of a habitat. The engineering works at much greater water depths/pressures. A filter system which only allows oxygen in is possible. Landing something of that size would be an effort, but Venus is closer than Mars with a shorter travel time.

Did I forget to say that the atmosphere of Venus is also corrosive?

So is the atmosphere of Los Angeles. It is just a matter of degree.

 

[Divine Wind]

Disagreed it was a waste

Not a waste ... but a wasted opportunity. NASA had a blank check for nearly a decade and left nothing in place but boot prints and tire track.

Not a blank check. That check came with a directive. If they didn't meet their annual goes, the Democratic Congress could cancel it.

 

[fncceo]

What is so effing special about Mars? It is cold and dry with no atmosphere.

Venus could work. You would just need an air conditioner with a filter. Heck, cars in Los Angeles already have the technology.

Venus surface pressure is 90 atmospheres. It is not only hotter than Mercury, it would crush most landers (re russian attempts). More pressure protection = more mass = much more dollars to do it.

Also it is impossible to even see your hand in front of your face.

Definitely Venus is a planet for robots.

Ok, 90 atm is about 3000' water depth pressures. Not a problem for construction of a habitat. The engineering works at much greater water depths/pressures. A filter system which only allows oxygen in is possible. Landing something of that size would be an effort, but Venus is closer than Mars with a shorter travel time.

Venus is much more livable than people think ...

 

[MarkDuffy]

Yeah, let's put humans on another planet so they can **** that one up as well. I am sure the banking oligarchs will get there first so they can set up their parasitic banks. Perhaps we should keep the virus that is humanity in one spot instead of spreading it. LOL!

Aliens are just as good & bad as we are.

 

[percysunshine]

What is so effing special about Mars? It is cold and dry with no atmosphere.

Venus could work. You would just need an air conditioner with a filter. Heck, cars in Los Angeles already have the technology.

Venus surface pressure is 90 atmospheres. It is not only hotter than Mercury, it would crush most landers (re russian attempts). More pressure protection = more mass = much more dollars to do it.

Also it is impossible to even see your hand in front of your face.

Definitely Venus is a planet for robots.

Ok, 90 atm is about 3000' water depth pressures. Not a problem for construction of a habitat. The engineering works at much greater water depths/pressures. A filter system which only allows oxygen in is possible. Landing something of that size would be an effort, but Venus is closer than Mars with a shorter travel time.

Venus is much more livable than people think ...

I can't believe NASA is going to write off all interplanetary human colonization. They have to have a 'Plan B'....it is either Venus, or the moons of Jupiter...which are too far away to even contemplate.

 

[MarkDuffy]

Disagreed it was a waste

Not a waste ... but a wasted opportunity. NASA had a blank check for nearly a decade and left nothing in place but boot prints and tire track.

NASA did it exactly correct. We verified the Moon was exactly like Earth. Mars is turning out to be the same.

No reason for a base on the moon. We get our long-term space science (as in effects on humans) from the space station.

 

[fncceo]

Not a blank check. That check came with a directive. If they didn't meet their annual goes, the Democratic Congress could cancel it.

I grew up during that time ... we all lived space. Astronauts were rock stars and the world held it's breath for every launch. Every school kid could name all the parts of the LEM and we drank Tang for breakfast.

The country will never be behind anything ever again the way it was behind the Space Program ... that's what I mean by a wasted opportunity.

 

[rightwinger]

The public quickly lost interest in the moon landings

Because, as I said before, the only reason we went their was to beat the Russians. After that, we played frakking golf on the Moon.

Trump could build a course there

 

[fncceo]

No reason for a base on the moon. We get our long-term space science (as in effects on humans) from the space station.

The International Space Station is closer to Earth than Las Vegas is to Los Angeles (and gambling is legal).

 

[rightwinger]

Not true. We wanted rocks. Got a bunch on previous missions. Then we brought cars and turned the Moon into a racetrack. THEN we played golf.

I actually believe the folks running NASA never thought we'd really get there. They had ZERO plans for any follow up after we got there. I can't think a greater waste of an opportunity in History.

Disagreed it was a waste. The "folks running NASA" simply followed their directions from POTUS and Congress.

FWIW, NASA does a lot more than send rockets into space.

NASA has done some impressive shit well beyond the moon. We have sent space vehicles throughout the solar system. Have the pictures to show for it

 

[percysunshine]

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Just wait. If they find silver, tungsten, platinum or gold on the surface of Venus.....there will be an orbital mining colony in no time flat.

 

[MarkDuffy]

Disagreed it was a waste

Not a waste ... but a wasted opportunity. NASA had a blank check for nearly a decade and left nothing in place but boot prints and tire track.

Not true!

We made messes all over the place and left a lot of trash.

It's what we do!

 

[rightwinger]

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Just wait. If they find silver, tungsten, platinum or gold on the surface of Venus.....there will be an orbital mining colony in no time flat.

It would cost more than it's worth

 

[percysunshine]

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Just wait. If they find silver, tungsten, platinum or gold on the surface of Venus.....there will be an orbital mining colony in no time flat.

It would cost more than it's worth

Nasa is a government operation.

 

[Dale Smith]

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Just wait. If they find silver, tungsten, platinum or gold on the surface of Venus.....there will be an orbital mining colony in no time flat.

It would cost more than it's worth

Nasa is a government operation.

AND it is incorporated.......

 

[fncceo]

It would cost more than it's worth

A little History. In the 16th Century, Spain began bringing back gold from the New World and Portugal brought silver from Asia. The new abundance of the precious metals led to huge devaluations and a European inflationary spiral that lasted a century.

 

[MarkDuffy]

It didn't take long for space exploration to catch up with the current limits of chemistry & physics.

All kinds of fantasies came outta it like the suitcase flying cars of the Jetsons and 20 hour work week. Can you imagine nutcases in 3 dimensions?

It's back to the grunt work of basic science republicans hate & try to stop at every turn.

 

[rightwinger]

It didn't take long for space exploration to catch up with the current limits of chemistry & physics.

All kinds of fantasies came outta it like the suitcase flying cars of the Jetsons and 20 hour work week. Can you imagine nutcases in 3 dimensions?

It's back to the grunt work of basic science republicans hate & try to stop at every turn.

It's not as sexy.....but investment in energy, healthcare, communications, transportation pays more dividends than getting a photo-op on Mars