My encounter with a census workers

[del]

i had four days of training for NRFU operations (non response follow up). none of it had to do specifically with dealing with difficult people.

A decent, reasonable person such as yourself doesn't really need training in dealing with difficult people. Your own common sense is a better guide than anything the government will tell you.

the training is by rote. the trainer(crew leader) has to read from a script and not deviate from it in any way. it made me wax nostalgic about organic chemistry, which is saying something. i'm trying to determine if i can file for workman's comp for the numerous puncture wounds in my leg caused by trying to stay awake. i felt bad for the crew leader, he's a nice guy.

 

[Angelhair]

Comical how so many of you read this thread and just ran with it....something like taking the AZ bill and running hyserically down the street waving and shouting - profiling! profiling! profiling!

 

[Si modo]

So, you just circle back to this thread. ....

Liar. That link was to Pixie's posts, as you asked.

A proven liar hatefully calling another poster a liar is amazing, if not delusional.

Pixie's posts in this thread. I'm sorry....but you are just being silly now.

Ah, in addition to being hateful just like JenyE, you haven't the ability to click on additional pages on a webpage.

You lied again.

YOU asked for her track record. I gave it to you. And you lied twice that I didn't. And, you call Pixie a liar? That's simply delusional.

 

[Si modo]

I can totally understand someone being upset, caught up in the stress of the moment, etc.


However, later on, using that to make some bizarre point on a message board and not following thru with "part two", etc.

the only thing bizarre here is your reaction.

My reaction is that this story is bogus....how is that bizarre?

Bizarre because you have no foundation for it other than your hate.

 

[del]

I can totally understand someone being upset, caught up in the stress of the moment, etc.


However, later on, using that to make some bizarre point on a message board and not following thru with "part two", etc.

the only thing bizarre here is your reaction.

My reaction is that this story is bogus....how is that bizarre?

saying that it was the result of an irrational hatred of the govt or however you put it, is bizarre, imo, or if not bizarre, then indicative of a thought process so simplistic as to belie the term.

but that's just me

 

[saveliberty]

the only thing bizarre here is your reaction.

My reaction is that this story is bogus....how is that bizarre?

saying that it was the result of an irrational hatred of the govt or however you put it, is bizarre, imo, or if not bizarre, then indicative of a thought process so simplistic as to belie the term.

but that's just me

Simplistic, an early indicator of stupid.

 

[bodecea]

So yesterday, I was at my Mom's house, in the most socialist state of our country.

Inflammatory comment....

Why I am here is irrelevant.

Anyway, this woman knocks on my Mom's door, and I was almost afraid to answer it because she looked like some sort of creek creature/methhead?????

So, she didn't dress appropriately like Census workers are required to....tho I must confess, I have no idea how "some sort of creek creature/methhead" would dress.

I opened the door and she started grilling me immediately, "who are you,?" "Why are you here?" "wheres the woman of the house?"

How does this person automatically know it's not your house? This puzzles me.

She did not identify herself,

Census workers are supposed to have ID badges...and why did you not immediately ask for ID?

and I had to look at the clipboard she was carrying before I realized that she was a census worker

What did the paperwork on the clipboard look like? Official? Could it be fake?

aka redcoat.

This is a totally puzzling comment. What does it mean?

I told her I was at my mothers house and I dont live here so I could not answer her questions.

She persisted,

In what way did she persist? And you still haven't asked for ID?

and I said it it none of your damned buisness what I am doing here. She then told me that I MUST tell her. MUST.

Were those her exact words?

I became quite enraged at this point and told her that my is mother at the hospital with her daughter who is undergoing a life threatening procedure. Then I told her to get out of my face.

She was in your face? She was that close? Have you asked for ID yet?

In the next post I will tell you of my second encounter with said census worker AND her husband AKA another census worker, on the same property, the following day.

Still waiting to hear about this.

Needless to say, I am livid, considering what is happening to my sister and my families state of affairs

Wait....so you are not livid about the encounter but about your family situation? Even tho you said it was irrelevant?

Have you called the Census Bureau offices yet? Did you ask them why their workers are going around without ID?

 

[geauxtohell]

Their on a mission from God. I'm pretty busy this time of year. My patience for stupid people is very low. I hope they cover the word leave in class. They'll be hearing it all the way off my property, as they back up.

And just think, instead of shooting them, you could have just mailed in the form instead!


Better go buy some more bullets then!

Yeah. God forbid the census workers try to obtain information from people who didn't fulfill their civic duty.

My experience with a census worker: Door bell rang, answered it, census worker with a badge (plastic identification badge not metal police badge) trying to obtain the information on the form. My response: we sent the form in. His response: Let me check my list...... Oh you are right. It's your downstairs neighbors whose information I need.

 

[Si modo]

Their on a mission from God. I'm pretty busy this time of year. My patience for stupid people is very low. I hope they cover the word leave in class. They'll be hearing it all the way off my property, as they back up.

And just think, instead of shooting them, you could have just mailed in the form instead!


Better go buy some more bullets then!

Yeah. God forbid the census workers try to obtain information from people who didn't fulfill their civic duty.

My experience with a census worker: Door bell rang, answered it, census worker with a badge (plastic identification badge not metal police badge) trying to obtain the information on the form. My response: we sent the form in. His response: Let me check my list...... Oh you are right. It's your downstairs neighbors whose information I need.

So, if we are to believe you, census workers can show up at residences where the inhabitants have actually filled out the form and sent it in, as Pixie said.

 

[bodecea]

Liar. That link was to Pixie's posts, as you asked.

A proven liar hatefully calling another poster a liar is amazing, if not delusional.

Pixie's posts in this thread. I'm sorry....but you are just being silly now.

Ah, in addition to being hateful just like JenyE, you haven't the ability to click on additional pages on a webpage.

You lied again.

YOU asked for her track record. I gave it to you. And you lied twice that I didn't. And, you call Pixie a liar? That's simply delusional.

I clicked on your link and immediately realized you had ONLY giving me a link to every post she made....call me lazy, if you will....but you did NOT provide what I was asking for and you know it. I asked for her track record for honesty...something you indicated was "proven"...I did not ask for a link to every post she made. That proves nothing. So, you might want to watch out for pointing your finger at me, three fingers are pointing back at you.

 

[bodecea]

And just think, instead of shooting them, you could have just mailed in the form instead!


Better go buy some more bullets then!

Yeah. God forbid the census workers try to obtain information from people who didn't fulfill their civic duty.

My experience with a census worker: Door bell rang, answered it, census worker with a badge (plastic identification badge not metal police badge) trying to obtain the information on the form. My response: we sent the form in. His response: Let me check my list...... Oh you are right. It's your downstairs neighbors whose information I need.

So, if we are to believe you, census workers can show up at residences where the inhabitants have actually filled out the form and sent it in, as Pixie said.

Without ID and dressed like crack heads......

 

[geauxtohell]

And just think, instead of shooting them, you could have just mailed in the form instead!


Better go buy some more bullets then!

Yeah. God forbid the census workers try to obtain information from people who didn't fulfill their civic duty.

My experience with a census worker: Door bell rang, answered it, census worker with a badge (plastic identification badge not metal police badge) trying to obtain the information on the form. My response: we sent the form in. His response: Let me check my list...... Oh you are right. It's your downstairs neighbors whose information I need.

So, if we are to believe you, census workers can show up at residences where the inhabitants have actually filled out the form and sent it in, as Pixie said.

Of course. Anybody can make a mistake. I can understand the mistake in this instance as we live in a duplex with neighbors who share the same address.

You can also believe that more productive resolution to the manner was to ask him to re-check his information. He did try to obtain the information initially from us before we asked him to double check. I don't blame him, 99.9% of the houses he visits are most likely people who haven't sent their information it. What's the point in treating someone who is trying to do their job like shit? I am not even rude to the various other people who ring my doorbell to try and solicit various things or convert me to their religion.

Our census worker had on a badge, introduced themselves as a census worker, and I think also had a jacket on.

I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that Pixie's person could have been a scammer.

 

[Si modo]

Yeah. God forbid the census workers try to obtain information from people who didn't fulfill their civic duty.

My experience with a census worker: Door bell rang, answered it, census worker with a badge (plastic identification badge not metal police badge) trying to obtain the information on the form. My response: we sent the form in. His response: Let me check my list...... Oh you are right. It's your downstairs neighbors whose information I need.

So, if we are to believe you, census workers can show up at residences where the inhabitants have actually filled out the form and sent it in, as Pixie said.

Of course. Anybody can make a mistake. I can understand the mistake in this instance as we live in a duplex with neighbors who share the same address.

You can also believe that more productive resolution to the manner was to ask him to re-check his information. He did try to obtain the information initially from us before we asked him to double check. I don't blame him, 99.9% of the houses he visits are most likely people who haven't sent their information it. What's the point in treating someone who is trying to do their job like shit? I am not even rude to the various other people who ring my doorbell to try and solicit various things or convert me to their religion.

Our census worker had on a badge, introduced themselves as a census worker, and I think also had a jacket on.

I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that Pixie's person could have been a scammer.

Possibly was a census worker, possibly was a scammer. But, as Mudwhistle pointed out, most scammers use charm rather than alienation. Sometimes they try intimidation, too.

But flat out calling Pixie a liar without any foundation for it is wrong (not that you did). I have no foundation for calling you a liar, nor do I have for Pixie.

Anecdotes are evidence of nothing and I have no doubt that Pixie knows that, but I will not be hateful, especially when she is having other health issues with family.

(I know that is JenyE's style, though.)

 

[Si modo]

Pixie's posts in this thread. I'm sorry....but you are just being silly now.

Ah, in addition to being hateful just like JenyE, you haven't the ability to click on additional pages on a webpage.

You lied again.

YOU asked for her track record. I gave it to you. And you lied twice that I didn't. And, you call Pixie a liar? That's simply delusional.

I clicked on your link and immediately realized you had ONLY giving me a link to every post she made....call me lazy, if you will....but you did NOT provide what I was asking for and you know it. I asked for her track record for honesty...something you indicated was "proven"...I did not ask for a link to every post she made. That proves nothing. So, you might want to watch out for pointing your finger at me, three fingers are pointing back at you.

YOU asked for her track record. I gave it to you and YOU lied that I did not.

What the **** are you going on about now?

And, the burden is NOT on me to show any track record at all. YOU demonstrate that she has lied as that is YOUR claim.

Idiot.

 

[geauxtohell]

Possibly was a census worker, possibly was a scammer. But, as Mudwhistle pointed out, most scammers use charm rather than alienation. Sometimes they try intimidation, too.

But flat out calling Pixie a liar without any foundation for it is wrong (not that you did). I have no foundation for calling you a liar, nor do I have for Pixie.

Anecdotes are evidence of nothing and I have no doubt that Pixie knows that, but I will not be hateful, especially when she is having other health issues with family.

(I know that is JenyE's style, though.)

Who knows if it was the real deal or not in her case. Morons abound in all walks of life and occupations.

I suspect that pixie was immediately adversarial to them regardless of if they were real or fake and we are really only hearing about one side of this encounter.

I don't get why some conservatives are so opposed to the notion of a census, but I gave up on trying to figure out long ago.

 

[bodecea]

Yeah. God forbid the census workers try to obtain information from people who didn't fulfill their civic duty.

My experience with a census worker: Door bell rang, answered it, census worker with a badge (plastic identification badge not metal police badge) trying to obtain the information on the form. My response: we sent the form in. His response: Let me check my list...... Oh you are right. It's your downstairs neighbors whose information I need.

So, if we are to believe you, census workers can show up at residences where the inhabitants have actually filled out the form and sent it in, as Pixie said.

Of course. Anybody can make a mistake. I can understand the mistake in this instance as we live in a duplex with neighbors who share the same address.

You can also believe that more productive resolution to the manner was to ask him to re-check his information. He did try to obtain the information initially from us before we asked him to double check. I don't blame him, 99.9% of the houses he visits are most likely people who haven't sent their information it. What's the point in treating someone who is trying to do their job like shit? I am not even rude to the various other people who ring my doorbell to try and solicit various things or convert me to their religion.

Our census worker had on a badge, introduced themselves as a census worker, and I think also had a jacket on.

I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that Pixie's person could have been a scammer.

You are not the first one to come to that conclusion.

 

[Si modo]

Possibly was a census worker, possibly was a scammer. But, as Mudwhistle pointed out, most scammers use charm rather than alienation. Sometimes they try intimidation, too.

But flat out calling Pixie a liar without any foundation for it is wrong (not that you did). I have no foundation for calling you a liar, nor do I have for Pixie.

Anecdotes are evidence of nothing and I have no doubt that Pixie knows that, but I will not be hateful, especially when she is having other health issues with family.

(I know that is JenyE's style, though.)

Who knows if it was the real deal or not in her case. Morons abound in all walks of life and occupations.

I suspect that pixie was immediately adversarial to them regardless of if they were real or fake and we are really only hearing about one side of this encounter.

I don't get why some conservatives are so opposed to the notion of a census, but I gave up on trying to figure out long ago.

It's not the notion of the census at all that has many of us being vocal.

It is the attempt to change the seat of responsibility of a census reporting and the additional questions on the form. Most of us answered what we are bound by the Constitution to do and nothing more.

 

[bodecea]

Ah, in addition to being hateful just like JenyE, you haven't the ability to click on additional pages on a webpage.

You lied again.

YOU asked for her track record. I gave it to you. And you lied twice that I didn't. And, you call Pixie a liar? That's simply delusional.

I clicked on your link and immediately realized you had ONLY giving me a link to every post she made....call me lazy, if you will....but you did NOT provide what I was asking for and you know it. I asked for her track record for honesty...something you indicated was "proven"...I did not ask for a link to every post she made. That proves nothing. So, you might want to watch out for pointing your finger at me, three fingers are pointing back at you.

YOU asked for her track record. I gave it to you and YOU lied that I did not.

What the **** are you going on about now?

And, the burden is NOT on me to show any track record at all. YOU demonstrate that she has lied as that is YOUR claim.

Idiot.

Every single post made by a poster is not PROOF of a "proven" track record of honesty....where is the "proven" part? Maybe if you were to link those specific posts that are the direct proof of honesty, we can be on the same page. Until then, I know and you know you are just back pedaling on your statement "proven track record of honesty".

 

[bodecea]

Possibly was a census worker, possibly was a scammer. But, as Mudwhistle pointed out, most scammers use charm rather than alienation. Sometimes they try intimidation, too.

But flat out calling Pixie a liar without any foundation for it is wrong (not that you did). I have no foundation for calling you a liar, nor do I have for Pixie.

Anecdotes are evidence of nothing and I have no doubt that Pixie knows that, but I will not be hateful, especially when she is having other health issues with family.

(I know that is JenyE's style, though.)

Who knows if it was the real deal or not in her case. Morons abound in all walks of life and occupations.

I suspect that pixie was immediately adversarial to them regardless of if they were real or fake and we are really only hearing about one side of this encounter.

I don't get why some conservatives are so opposed to the notion of a census, but I gave up on trying to figure out long ago.

It's not the notion of the census at all that has many of us being vocal.

It is the attempt to change the seat of responsibility of a census reporting and the additional questions on the form. Most of us answered what we are bound by the Constitution to do and nothing more.

And show us where you are being forced to do something more....and what exactly IS that "something more"?

 

[Dr.House]

Possibly was a census worker, possibly was a scammer. But, as Mudwhistle pointed out, most scammers use charm rather than alienation. Sometimes they try intimidation, too.

But flat out calling Pixie a liar without any foundation for it is wrong (not that you did). I have no foundation for calling you a liar, nor do I have for Pixie.

Anecdotes are evidence of nothing and I have no doubt that Pixie knows that, but I will not be hateful, especially when she is having other health issues with family.

(I know that is JenyE's style, though.)

Who knows if it was the real deal or not in her case. Morons abound in all walks of life and occupations.

I suspect that pixie was immediately adversarial to them regardless of if they were real or fake and we are really only hearing about one side of this encounter.

I don't get why some conservatives are so opposed to the notion of a census, but I gave up on trying to figure out long ago.

The OP was not a rail against the census, but more of a statement of opposition to in-your-face, rude, obnoxious assholes who were supposedly legitimately (could have been a scam) representing the US government...

I see no problem with the way she reacted to either some lowlife ******* scammer or someone who was NOT doing their job as instructed....