Muslim savages attacking the indigenous Jews of Israel in 1834:

[montelatici]

Now, if we use scientifically arrived at population data, even if commissioned by a Jew (Montefiore), we find how full of crap you are Roufti.

"The censuses were commissioned by Montefiore when he was approached to give philanthropic assistance to the destitute Jewish population. He first visited Palestine in 1827, at which time there were between 500 and 600 poverty stricken Jews living in Jerusalem. The census documents originally were in the possession of Sir Moses, but later they became the property of Jews College, London, where they can be viewed today. The Hebrew University Library in Jerusalem has a microfilm copy of most, but not all, of the records; the condition of some sections is too poor to permit microfilming. The microfilms may be purchased from the Hebrew University for about $120 once permission has been obtained from the custodian of the records at Jews College, Albert Road, London NW4 2SJ, England.
In 1987, the first census of 1839 was published in book form by Hebrew University's Dinur Center. According to this source, 6,408 Jewish men, women and children resided in Palestine at this time—fewer than the 9,000 Jews reported by the British consul at the same time."

So, stop posting nonsense.

http://www.isragen.org.il/siteFiles/1/615/4881.asp

Actually it proves that you're full of crap, because in Jerusalem there were less Muslim Arabs than Jews in the 1800's.

Not according to serious population surveys as Montefiore's linked previously.

The Ottomans, not the BRITISH, who were in charge at the time kept pretty good records and they are among many that the Jews were majority population in Jerusalem in the 1800's. Besides your quote doesn't say that the Jews weren't majority population in Jerusalem, it just states the Jewish population, DUMBASS.

Montefiore used the Ottoman data. We know that the population of Jerusalem was about 15,000 at the time so we know the 500-600 Jews were not the majority. LOL

 

[Roudy]

Now, if we use scientifically arrived at population data, even if commissioned by a Jew (Montefiore), we find how full of crap you are Roufti.

"The censuses were commissioned by Montefiore when he was approached to give philanthropic assistance to the destitute Jewish population. He first visited Palestine in 1827, at which time there were between 500 and 600 poverty stricken Jews living in Jerusalem. The census documents originally were in the possession of Sir Moses, but later they became the property of Jews College, London, where they can be viewed today. The Hebrew University Library in Jerusalem has a microfilm copy of most, but not all, of the records; the condition of some sections is too poor to permit microfilming. The microfilms may be purchased from the Hebrew University for about $120 once permission has been obtained from the custodian of the records at Jews College, Albert Road, London NW4 2SJ, England.
In 1987, the first census of 1839 was published in book form by Hebrew University's Dinur Center. According to this source, 6,408 Jewish men, women and children resided in Palestine at this time—fewer than the 9,000 Jews reported by the British consul at the same time."

So, stop posting nonsense.

http://www.isragen.org.il/siteFiles/1/615/4881.asp

Actually it proves that you're full of crap, because in Jerusalem there were less Muslim Arabs than Jews in the 1800's.

Not according to serious population surveys as Montefiore's linked previously.

The Ottomans, not the BRITISH, who were in charge at the time kept pretty good records and they are among many that the Jews were majority population in Jerusalem in the 1800's. Besides your quote doesn't say that the Jews weren't majority population in Jerusalem, it just states the Jewish population, DUMBASS.

Montefiore used the Ottoman data. We know that the population of Jerusalem was about 15,000 at the time so we know the 500-600 Jews were not the majority. LOL

No such thing liar. There was no mention of Ottoman numbers. Just observations, and observations are like assholes, everybody's got one. Now stop spewing bullshit and run along, troll. Another epic fail:

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Jerusalem After 1291

"...Present condition of the City: (1907 edition)

Jerusalem (El Quds) is the capital of a sanjak and the seat of a mutasarrif directly dependent on the Sublime Porte. In the administration of the sanjak the mutasarrif is assisted by a council called majlis ida ra; the city has a municipal government (majlis baladiye) presided over by a mayor. The total population is estimated at 66,000. The Turkish census of 1905, which counts only Ottoman subjects, gives these figures:
Jews, 45,000; Moslems, 8,000; Orthodox Christians, 6000; Latins, 2500; Armenians, 950; Protestants, 800; Melkites, 250; Copts, 150; Abyssinians, 100; Jacobites, 100; Catholic Syrians, 50. During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jewish colony. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population...""

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Growth of Jerusalem 1838-Present

....... Jews Muslims Christians Total
1838 6,000 5,000 3,000 14,000
1844 7,120 5,760 3,390 16,270 ..... ..The First Official Ottoman Census
1876 12,000 7,560 5,470 25,030 .... .....Second """"""""""
1905 40,000 8,000 10,900 58,900 ....... Third/last, detailed in CathEncyc above
1948 99,320 36,680 31,300 167,300
1990 353,200 124,200 14,000 491,400
1992 385,000 150,000 15,000 550,000

http://www.testimony-magazine.org/jerusalem/bring.htm

MonkeyNazi getting bitchslapped:

 

[montelatici]

Scientific contemporaneous data versus a child's homework source. LOL. Roufti you never cease to amaze.

 

[Roudy]

Official Ottoman census of tax paying Ottoman subjects versus a private head count by a guy called Montifiore, you troll.

 

[Kondor3]

Those Sephardic Jews were from the Iberian peninsula, there was nothing indigenous about them, they were European. The Arabs were the indigenous people the Jews expelled from Portugal and Spain settled among sometime after 1492. You are making things up again Roudfi.

Sometime after 1492?

1834 - 1492 = 342 years

So, people who have lived on any given land for 300+ years are not to be considered native?

So, people who have been native to the land for 300+ years have no rights?

So, people who are of a different faith than the locals are legitimately subject to death and seizure of property?

You are defending the indefensible.

And, as usual, failing.

 

[Roudy]

Those Sephardic Jews were from the Iberian peninsula, there was nothing indigenous about them, they were European. The Arabs were the indigenous people the Jews expelled from Portugal and Spain settled among sometime after 1492. You are making things up again Roudfi.

Sometime after 1492?

1834 - 1492 = 342 years

So, people who have lived on any given land for 300+ years are not to be considered native?

So, people who have been native to the land for 300+ years have no rights?

So, people who are of a different faith than the locals are legitimately subject to death and seizure of property?

You are defending the indefensible.

And, as usual, failing.

According to MonkeyNazi, the Jews had no rights whatsoever to go back to their holyland, at any time in the 2000 year history of their exile.

 

[montelatici]

Jews had every right to go to visit Palestine and even live there. They did not have the right to evict the inhabitants and create a Jewish state. That's called an invasion and colonization.

 

[Roudy]

Jews had every right to go to visit Palestine and even live there. They did not have the right to evict the inhabitants and create a Jewish state. That's called an invasion and colonization.

Until you provide proof of Jews evicting people en mass, then that's just another of your repetitive bullshit accusations.

However, it is a historical fact that Arab Muslim animals committed ethnic cleansing and genocide on the ancient Jews of Hebron in 1929. It is also a historical fact that Arab nations rejected the partition plan in 1948, and attacked the nascent state of Israel while warning the Palestinians to get out of the way. Only to get humiliated by a bunch of rag tag Jews.

That's the truth, MonkeyNazi.

 

[Phoenall]

Jews had every right to go to visit Palestine and even live there. They did not have the right to evict the inhabitants and create a Jewish state. That's called an invasion and colonization.

They only evicted those that took up arms against them which was covered under international law of 1948. They could have executed them instead and used their bodies to fertilise the desert soil.