Musk makes billions from China. How will that work now?

[EvilCat Breath]

Not the same situation as the last time. Is Heil Shitler! not reading the room.

Mexico suggests it would impose its own tariffs to retaliate against any Trump tariffs

They gonna charge more for fentanyl?

 

[otto105]

Spoken like a true democrat.

Supply side economics works right.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

If a trade breaks out tariffs will be the least of musk’s concerns. The Chinese government can deny him permits to sell his cars. Or use regulations to slow production.

The tariff on electric cars is 100%. Do you think Musk sells ANY in China? Nope.

 

[The Duke]

Musk makes billions from China. How will that work now?​

Elon Musk has a relatively long and very profitable history doing business with China. And he’s likely to want to keep it that way.

Donald Trump and Elon Musk's Relationship Could Break Over China​

What an interesting situation. What Trump and Rubio want to do is punish China and Trump has stated he could raise tariffs on Chine as much as 60%,

Musk makes Billions in China and those tariffs would cost HIM big time.

Who or what (money or pride) will win?

False dichotomy fallacy. Integrity and honesty will win.
Many things things need to be fixed and mistakes will be made, but at least an effort's being made to do the right things.

 

[otto105]

They gonna charge more for fentanyl?

Whatever you cousin can afford.

 

[otto105]

The tariff on electric cars is 100%. Do you think Musk sells ANY in China? Nope.

Hilarious

That you don’t know.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Whatever you cousin can afford.

If I HAD a cousin, I would make sure that cousin sold lots and lots and LOTS of fentanyl to democrats. I mean put them in the ground level fentanyl.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Hilarious

That you don’t know.

I did give you a link. Oops. Sorry. I forgot you can't read.

 

[The Duke]

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the big problem that Trumpers have never realized that exists is that Trump's objectives are not necessarily bad, but his incompetent implementation of them is. He is truly incompetent and the worse part is that as a narcissist that he is, he never sees it as something he needs to improve on and he always blames his incompetency on others, meaning the problem never gets truly fixed but blame flies out there, creating even more problems

Trump is INCOMPETENT

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you are blind-by-choice

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Then, I guess you and I have nothing to talk about. Enjoy Trumps victory while you can, I guarantee you that it will be short lived

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Sure, whatever you say. You have a clear and sharp mind that evaluates things unbiasedly

I always reciprocate according to the situation. When facing stupidity, visual aids work the best. What the mind can't understand, the eyes do capture the picture.

The reality is that this place is a cartoon to begin with. There are no debates here. The only reason I ever put someone on ignore is because they insult and debase the opponent and the messenger that any information/data/statistics that does not agree with their point of view. Because of that reason "alone", I have put 33 people on ignore.

Data/statistics/facts are exactly that and yet the Trumpers here dispute them, ignore them, and dismiss them as propaganda, fake news, and unsupported . How can anyone "argue" a point when reality is ignored.

In my life, I was taught and learned that most people react better to visual stimulus than to words. It is easy to shut your eyes to words and ignore them but a picture cannot be ignored once it is seen.

It is difficult to ignore pictures as they tell the story better than anything else:

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Elon Musk said this in May of this year:

Tesla CEO Elon Musk says he favors ‘no tariffs’ on Chinese EVs​

Published Thu, May 23 202412:43 PM EDTUpdated Thu, May 23 20242:03 PM EDT

• Tesla CEO Elon Musk said at a conference in Paris that he doesn’t agree with President Biden’s tariff on Chinese-made electric vehicle imports.
• “Tesla competes quite well in the market in China with no tariffs and no deferential support,” Musk said. “I’m in favor of no tariffs.”

He has not said anything different since then and that is why people are "speculating" that this issue could be a problem between them (Trump and Musk).

Right now, speculating that this is a problem between them makes more sense than thinking that Musk has accepted it and is going with Trumps wishes. This is money and Musk's reputation in China and one would think that it is important to Musk. Nonetheless,I do not think this will be cleared up until January,

I am not going to debate individual examples. Even a blind squirrel can find an acorn once in a while.

Having said that, "yes", the tariffs on China were a mistake and mostly because they were poorly executed:

More pain than gain: How the US-China trade war hurt America​

as far as the curbing of illegal immigration that Trump put into place, he also did more harm than good as his incompetency caused the following to occur:

A Review Of Trump Immigration Policy​

Legal Immigration Cut in Half, Most Categories Blocked: By 2021, Donald Trump will have reduced legal immigration by 49% since becoming president – without any change in U.S. immigration law, according to a National Foundation for American Policy analysis. An April presidential proclamation blocked the entry of legal immigrants to the United States in almost all categories.

Reducing legal immigration most harms refugees, employers and Americans who want to live with their spouses, parents or children, but it also affects the country’s future labor force and economic growth: “Average annual labor force growth, a key component of the nation’s economic growth, will be approximately 59% lower as a result of the administration’s immigration policies.

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Trumps tariffs are going to cost China and that means it will cost Musk with his factory and EV selling there

There is no one that can ever begin to truly understand how Musk thinks. In many ways, the man is unique. By the same token, pride, ego, greed are consistent everywhere

Musk now is officially part of the government of Trump

So, wo is in charge, Trump or Musk? Musk does not like to be #2 to anyone

Trump appoints Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy to head Department of Government Efficiency​

President-elect Donald Trump appointed Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy to head the Department of Government Efficiency or DOGE. This would be an outside department that would make recommendations for cutting waste from the government. Professor of Government Andrew Rudalevige joins On The Hill to talk about the history of outside groups looking for waste and the conflicts of interest that arise.

Did I say Cabinet position? Or did I say Government position? He is in charge of Government efficiency and that is PART OF THE GOVERNMENT! He makes decision on how the government operates

If it not a cabinet post it's not part of the government

Whatever you say.

Musk will be working for the government as he will be overseeing where the government money goes. Neither the IRS nor the post office do that. The IRS collects taxes and it is not in a position to change the tax code and the Post Office delivers and picks up mail and cannot change anything without Congress Approval. Musk is going to be able to DECIDE how and where the government money is spent. He does have CONTROL

Okay, yawn back at ya! Bye

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Retardation just like yours is just why Democrats lost, and why they should and will continue to lose.

 

[otto105]

If I HAD a cousin, I would make sure that cousin sold lots and lots and LOTS of fentanyl to democrats. I mean put them in the ground level fentanyl.

Have you ever been to west varginny...

 

[otto105]

I did give you a link. Oops. Sorry. I forgot you can't read.

His best-known company, the electric vehicle maker Tesla, makes half its cars in China. Tesla sells more cars in China than anywhere except the United States, and his local competition is getting stronger.

 

[Luckyone]

Let's see what happens.

We will definitely see "what happens". The thing is that if you do not prepare for what is "likely" to happen, you will suffer more. As such, knowledge of the cause and effects that "could and likely will" occur is paramount.

If your death is probable and your loved ones know that, when you die they will suffer but not as much as if your death is totally unexpected..............fact of life. Being prepared helps you to cope better

 

[EvilCat Breath]

His best-known company, the electric vehicle maker Tesla, makes half its cars in China. Tesla sells more cars in China than anywhere except the United States, and his local competition is getting stronger.

Are you sane? Do you not understand what you just said. Tesla makes cars IN CHINA. They sell the cars they make in China IN CHINA. That means they pay no tariffs at all. Those cars are NOT imports.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

We will definitely see "what happens". The thing is that if you do not prepare for what is "likely" to happen, you will suffer more. As such, knowledge of the cause and effects that "could and likely will" occur is paramount.

If your death is probable and your loved ones know that, when you die they will suffer but not as much as if your death is totally unexpected..............fact of life. Being prepared helps you to cope better

I hope only for the complete destruction of democrats and the complete destruction of the democratic party. I expect that there will be a degree of stress but ANY price is not too much to pay to rid the nation of democrats.

Putin is better than democrats, whatever he decides to do is an acceptable action.l

 

[otto105]

Are you sane? Do you not understand what you just said. Tesla makes cars IN CHINA. They sell the cars they make in China IN CHINA. That means they pay no tariffs at all. Those cars are NOT imports.

Again, if a trade war breaks out the government of China can pull his permits to sell cars in country. They can use regulations and inspections to slow or stop production.

How do you not get that.

 

[otto105]

I hope only for the complete destruction of democrats and the complete destruction of the democratic party. I expect that there will be a degree of stress but ANY price is not too much to pay to rid the nation of democrats.

Putin is better than democrats, whatever he decides to do is an acceptable action.l

Stupid fuckup

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Stupid fuckup

You spelled Brilliant Winner wrong.

 

[The Duke]

His best-known company, the electric vehicle maker Tesla, makes half its cars in China. Tesla sells more cars in China than anywhere except the United States, and his local competition is getting stronger.

You sure about that?

 

[otto105]

Are you sane? Do you not understand what you just said. Tesla makes cars IN CHINA. They sell the cars they make in China IN CHINA. That means they pay no tariffs at all. Those cars are NOT imports.

Tesla batteries are manufactured in Japan, China, and the United States. The vast majority of the batteries are sourced from Japan and China. The Chinese company CATL is the world’s largest EV battery supplier and supplies Tesla with the batteries used to make Tesla cars in the Shanghai factory.

Also ask yourself where rare earth and most lithium is sourced for batteries.

 

[otto105]

You sure about that?

Yup.