Much has changed since FDR gave this speech.

[Contumacious]

What if the institutions have reached a point where I no longer believe that it is possible to reform them? Also, what is inherently wrong with strongmen?

The socialist demon rats misapply the term authoritarian and strongman

According to the Socialist Demon Rats , An individual who opposes SOCIALISM , OPENING THE BORDER is an authoritarian - one who tenaciously supports and defends the Constitution is a strongman

 

[ZestolPastilevsky]

We the people get all the democracy we deserve. Government is not an abstraction. It's a reflection of how informed we are, how willing we are to participate in the process, and how vigilant we are in holding our elected reps accountable. Misinformation and apathy has given us trump 2.0. We will pay the price for it.

Gotta go. Appreciate the conversation.

How are we supposed to be informed when all major media outlets are owned by the same group of people? We were told that Iraq had WMDs, and that it was an imminent threat to us and our way of life. That turned out to be completely untrue. Not only was it completely untrue, but huge amounts of good people died as a result of it. Those people put their trust and their faith in the system you're defending, and it literally resulted in their deaths. Since I think the 60s or 70s, wages have been stagnant. That's the better part of a century. And this isn't some top secret problem that only a few know about. The system you pledge your loyalty to knows the people it rules over are suffering, and has done absolutely nothing about it. Voting won't change that. If it did, then the problem would have been fixed already. The fact is that the system you're defending is outdated, out of touch, and just doesn't work. It hasn't worked for a very long time. It's time for something new.

 

[Contumacious]

So...........the world would be a better place if the Nazis had taken over Europe? Sometimes, threats to liberty must be confronted.

In the 1930s Americans wanted to remain NEUTRAL but in order to change their minds FDR brought to them images of the Japanese sinking our ships and killing our GIs - they were not told that goddamned FDR had provoked them into attacking us.

There was NO evidence that Hitler was going to cross the Atlantic

and for what ?

The UK has disarmed its citizens , jails them for posting the wrong thing in the internet and their government is telling asthmatics to stop using their inhalers because of "global warming" HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HITLER WOULD HAVE DONE ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

 

[westwall]

https://www.politico.com/video/2019/11/01/fdr-i-welcome-their-hatred-069035

The sentiment he expressed has a familiar ring to it. FDR positioned himself as an anti-establishment populist. However, in those days he defined the institutions he fought as being enemies of peace, business and financial monopolies, speculators, reckless bankers, class antagonists, sectionalists, and war profiteers. He accused them of being in favor of a "do nothing" government in order for their power to be unchecked. They relished the concentration of power they amassed, holding FDR in contempt for trying to take it away. In FDR's view, institutional power needed to be given to the people.

He was seen, rightly so, as the champion of the little man. A vision of him he went on to earn many times over.

I thought of his speech while I was reading this op-ed from the NYT's resident conservative, David Brooks.

The Moral Challenge of Trumpism

MAGA morality is likely to regard people like me as lemmings. We climbed our way up through the meritocracy by shape shifting ourselves into whatever teachers, bosses and the system wanted us to be. Worse, we serve and preserve systems that are fundamentally corrupt and illegitimate — the financial institutions that created the financial crisis, the health authorities who closed schools during Covid, the mainstream media and federal bureaucracy that has led the nation to ruin.

What does heroism look like according the MAGA morality? It looks like the sort of people whom Trump has picked to be in his cabinet. The virtuous man in this morality is self-assertive, combative, transgressive and vengeful. He’s not afraid to break the rules and come to his own conclusions. He has contempt for institutions and is happy to be a battering force to bring them down. He is unbothered by elite scorn but, in fact, revels in it and goes out of his way to generate it.

In this mind-set, if the establishment regards you as a sleazeball, you must be doing something right. If the legal system indicts you, you must be a virtuous man.
Opinion | The Inverted Morality of MAGA

I have lost count of the times I've seen a MAGAist say, "If Dem's object to trump's cabinet picks he must be doing something right." Or pointing to his indictments as a badge of honor.

In this morality, the fact that a presidential nominee is accused of sexual assault is a feature, not a bug. It’s a sign that this nominee is a manly man. Manly men go after what they want. They assert themselves and smash propriety — including grabbing women “by the *****” if they feel like it.

The Right has tried to diminish FDR for the very thing making him so wildly popular in his day. Standing up for the little guy against monied interests. Proposing government could be an agent for the good of the people. And by his force of will he made it so.

These days, government has been demonized by a populist trying to convince the public he and he alone is the agent for good. To achieve his goals he must be given unbridled power. To MAGA he must reshape the government in his own image. In Baby Donald's view, institutional (defined by the fictional "deep state") power needs to be given to him.

FDR placed people in gulags. His opinion doesn't matter a tinkers damn.

 

[whitehall]

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"? WTF does that even mean? No president would get away with such an inane comment today. Democrats loved FDR because ...just because he was a democrat. He was elected in '32 to end a recession and under his leadership (or lack of it) in his first two terms it turned into a soup kitchen "great depression". He should have been impeached for his E.O. 9066 that authorized the incarceration of Japanese American citizens without due process but FDR had an advantage because he owned the freaking media and the media writes the history books.

 

[struth]

https://www.politico.com/video/2019/11/01/fdr-i-welcome-their-hatred-069035

The sentiment he expressed has a familiar ring to it. FDR positioned himself as an anti-establishment populist. However, in those days he defined the institutions he fought as being enemies of peace, business and financial monopolies, speculators, reckless bankers, class antagonists, sectionalists, and war profiteers. He accused them of being in favor of a "do nothing" government in order for their power to be unchecked. They relished the concentration of power they amassed, holding FDR in contempt for trying to take it away. In FDR's view, institutional power needed to be given to the people.

He was seen, rightly so, as the champion of the little man. A vision of him he went on to earn many times over.

I thought of his speech while I was reading this op-ed from the NYT's resident conservative, David Brooks.

The Moral Challenge of Trumpism

MAGA morality is likely to regard people like me as lemmings. We climbed our way up through the meritocracy by shape shifting ourselves into whatever teachers, bosses and the system wanted us to be. Worse, we serve and preserve systems that are fundamentally corrupt and illegitimate — the financial institutions that created the financial crisis, the health authorities who closed schools during Covid, the mainstream media and federal bureaucracy that has led the nation to ruin.

What does heroism look like according the MAGA morality? It looks like the sort of people whom Trump has picked to be in his cabinet. The virtuous man in this morality is self-assertive, combative, transgressive and vengeful. He’s not afraid to break the rules and come to his own conclusions. He has contempt for institutions and is happy to be a battering force to bring them down. He is unbothered by elite scorn but, in fact, revels in it and goes out of his way to generate it.

In this mind-set, if the establishment regards you as a sleazeball, you must be doing something right. If the legal system indicts you, you must be a virtuous man.
Opinion | The Inverted Morality of MAGA

I have lost count of the times I've seen a MAGAist say, "If Dem's object to trump's cabinet picks he must be doing something right." Or pointing to his indictments as a badge of honor.

In this morality, the fact that a presidential nominee is accused of sexual assault is a feature, not a bug. It’s a sign that this nominee is a manly man. Manly men go after what they want. They assert themselves and smash propriety — including grabbing women “by the *****” if they feel like it.

The Right has tried to diminish FDR for the very thing making him so wildly popular in his day. Standing up for the little guy against monied interests. Proposing government could be an agent for the good of the people. And by his force of will he made it so.

These days, government has been demonized by a populist trying to convince the public he and he alone is the agent for good. To achieve his goals he must be given unbridled power. To MAGA he must reshape the government in his own image. In Baby Donald's view, institutional (defined by the fictional "deep state") power needs to be given to him.

Not much has changed. The demafasict were very organized and planned on their hate for trump…political prosecutions, assassination attempts, calling people outside of their party garbage, the propaganda was strong

And Americans welcomed that hate and then overwhelming rejected harris and the demafasict

 

[SmokeALib]

https://www.politico.com/video/2019/11/01/fdr-i-welcome-their-hatred-069035

The sentiment he expressed has a familiar ring to it. FDR positioned himself as an anti-establishment populist. However, in those days he defined the institutions he fought as being enemies of peace, business and financial monopolies, speculators, reckless bankers, class antagonists, sectionalists, and war profiteers. He accused them of being in favor of a "do nothing" government in order for their power to be unchecked. They relished the concentration of power they amassed, holding FDR in contempt for trying to take it away. In FDR's view, institutional power needed to be given to the people.

He was seen, rightly so, as the champion of the little man. A vision of him he went on to earn many times over.

I thought of his speech while I was reading this op-ed from the NYT's resident conservative, David Brooks.

The Moral Challenge of Trumpism

MAGA morality is likely to regard people like me as lemmings. We climbed our way up through the meritocracy by shape shifting ourselves into whatever teachers, bosses and the system wanted us to be. Worse, we serve and preserve systems that are fundamentally corrupt and illegitimate — the financial institutions that created the financial crisis, the health authorities who closed schools during Covid, the mainstream media and federal bureaucracy that has led the nation to ruin.

What does heroism look like according the MAGA morality? It looks like the sort of people whom Trump has picked to be in his cabinet. The virtuous man in this morality is self-assertive, combative, transgressive and vengeful. He’s not afraid to break the rules and come to his own conclusions. He has contempt for institutions and is happy to be a battering force to bring them down. He is unbothered by elite scorn but, in fact, revels in it and goes out of his way to generate it.

In this mind-set, if the establishment regards you as a sleazeball, you must be doing something right. If the legal system indicts you, you must be a virtuous man.
Opinion | The Inverted Morality of MAGA

I have lost count of the times I've seen a MAGAist say, "If Dem's object to trump's cabinet picks he must be doing something right." Or pointing to his indictments as a badge of honor.

In this morality, the fact that a presidential nominee is accused of sexual assault is a feature, not a bug. It’s a sign that this nominee is a manly man. Manly men go after what they want. They assert themselves and smash propriety — including grabbing women “by the *****” if they feel like it.

The Right has tried to diminish FDR for the very thing making him so wildly popular in his day. Standing up for the little guy against monied interests. Proposing government could be an agent for the good of the people. And by his force of will he made it so.

These days, government has been demonized by a populist trying to convince the public he and he alone is the agent for good. To achieve his goals he must be given unbridled power. To MAGA he must reshape the government in his own image. In Baby Donald's view, institutional (defined by the fictional "deep state") power needs to be given to him.

LOL! Your interpretations seem to be saturated with TDS. He is taking away the power from you leftists to give back to the people.

 

[Jarlaxle]

FDR placed people in gulags. His opinion doesn't matter a tinkers damn.

Worst president of the 20th century.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

https://www.politico.com/video/2019/11/01/fdr-i-welcome-their-hatred-069035

The sentiment he expressed has a familiar ring to it. FDR positioned himself as an anti-establishment populist. However, in those days he defined the institutions he fought as being enemies of peace, business and financial monopolies, speculators, reckless bankers, class antagonists, sectionalists, and war profiteers. He accused them of being in favor of a "do nothing" government in order for their power to be unchecked. They relished the concentration of power they amassed, holding FDR in contempt for trying to take it away. In FDR's view, institutional power needed to be given to the people.

He was seen, rightly so, as the champion of the little man. A vision of him he went on to earn many times over.

I thought of his speech while I was reading this op-ed from the NYT's resident conservative, David Brooks.

The Moral Challenge of Trumpism

MAGA morality is likely to regard people like me as lemmings. We climbed our way up through the meritocracy by shape shifting ourselves into whatever teachers, bosses and the system wanted us to be. Worse, we serve and preserve systems that are fundamentally corrupt and illegitimate — the financial institutions that created the financial crisis, the health authorities who closed schools during Covid, the mainstream media and federal bureaucracy that has led the nation to ruin.

What does heroism look like according the MAGA morality? It looks like the sort of people whom Trump has picked to be in his cabinet. The virtuous man in this morality is self-assertive, combative, transgressive and vengeful. He’s not afraid to break the rules and come to his own conclusions. He has contempt for institutions and is happy to be a battering force to bring them down. He is unbothered by elite scorn but, in fact, revels in it and goes out of his way to generate it.

In this mind-set, if the establishment regards you as a sleazeball, you must be doing something right. If the legal system indicts you, you must be a virtuous man.
Opinion | The Inverted Morality of MAGA

I have lost count of the times I've seen a MAGAist say, "If Dem's object to trump's cabinet picks he must be doing something right." Or pointing to his indictments as a badge of honor.

In this morality, the fact that a presidential nominee is accused of sexual assault is a feature, not a bug. It’s a sign that this nominee is a manly man. Manly men go after what they want. They assert themselves and smash propriety — including grabbing women “by the *****” if they feel like it.

The Right has tried to diminish FDR for the very thing making him so wildly popular in his day. Standing up for the little guy against monied interests. Proposing government could be an agent for the good of the people. And by his force of will he made it so.

These days, government has been demonized by a populist trying to convince the public he and he alone is the agent for good. To achieve his goals he must be given unbridled power. To MAGA he must reshape the government in his own image. In Baby Donald's view, institutional (defined by the fictional "deep state") power needs to be given to him.

FDR was a totalitarian scumbag who admired and tried his best to emulate his hero mass murdering scumbag hero “Uncle Joe”

What was so admirable about starving 6 million Kulaks to death?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"? WTF does that even mean? No president would get away with such an inane comment today. Democrats loved FDR because ...just because he was a democrat. He was elected in '32 to end a recession and under his leadership (or lack of it) in his first two terms it turned into a soup kitchen "great depression". He should have been impeached for his E.O. 9066 that authorized the incarceration of Japanese American citizens without due process but FDR had an advantage because he owned the freaking media and the media writes the history books.

He had 25% unemployed during his first 2 terms and only Americas inevitable participation in WWII brought it down

 

[berg80]

How are we supposed to be informed when all major media outlets are owned by the same group of people? We were told that Iraq had WMDs, and that it was an imminent threat to us and our way of life.

Knight Ridder got the story right. But I agree most outlets didn't dare question the orthodoxy being pushed by Shrub's admin because patriotic fever was running high after 9/11.

Knight Ridder: How a small team of US journalists got it right on Iraq​

Knight Ridder: How a small team of US journalists got it right on Iraq

Twenty years after the US invasion of Iraq, the reporting team at Knight Ridder shares how they debunked the Bush administration's relentless march to war

www.middleeasteye.net