Moscow ´s "Bratushki" Serbia did again 😁! Serbia voted to condemn Moscow empire's actions in Ukraine at the UN

[Litwin]

Even stalin and ivan the terrible had more friends then putin

Serbia has applied for EU membership and is a candidate waiting for accession in EU.

and

 

[shockedcanadian]

Well, Ukraine has to decide, do they want to fight a stalemate for another two years and lose another 300000 young men while probably not gaining ground and risking WWIII. Or, do they make peace, build an economic relationship with America and import a little more liberty/security? They have fought valiantly but there really isn't a winner in war, we are just killing our own species. G-d becomes quite angry at his children being blown up.

 

[Litwin]

 

[Litwin]

Well, Ukraine has to decide, do they want to fight a stalemate for another two years and lose another 300000 young men while probably not gaining ground and risking WWIII. Or, do they make peace, build an economic relationship with America and import a little more liberty/security? They have fought valiantly but there really isn't a winner in war, we are just killing our own species. G-d becomes quite angry at his children being blown up.

As U.S. and putin negotiate, intel shows he's not interested 'in a real peace deal,' sources say​

As U.S. and Putin negotiate, intel shows he's not interested 'in a real peace deal,' sources say

Intelligence suggests Russian President Vladimir Putin is going through the motions and still thinks he can eventually control all of Ukraine, the sources told NBC News.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[AZrailwhale]

Well, Ukraine has to decide, do they want to fight a stalemate for another two years and lose another 300000 young men while probably not gaining ground and risking WWIII. Or, do they make peace, build an economic relationship with America and import a little more liberty/security? They have fought valiantly but there really isn't a winner in war, we are just killing our own species. G-d becomes quite angry at his children being blown up.

Putin isn’t going to allow Ukraine ties to Western Europe and/or the USA. He is convinced he can rook Trump into a deal favorable to Russia. Trump will negotiate, probably starting with an armistice in place while the negotiations progress. Putin will refuse of course, since such a freeze benefits Ukraine and kills what little momentum the Russian offensive has. Then Trump can publicly state that Putin has refused a reasonable basis for negotiation in favor of continuing his war of aggression. Ukraine wins even more public support world-wide while Russia loses the same. Trump comes off looking like a canny statesman while Putin looks like the KGB thug who only understands force and coercion that he is.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Putin isn’t going to allow Ukraine ties to Western Europe and/or the USA.

They don't have a choice. Trump won't push for NATO but he will it seems build bridges with Ukraine AND Russia. He isn't going to let China isolate and profit anynore. It is definitely a delicate dance

 

[AZrailwhale]

They don't have a choice. Trump won't push for NATO but he will it seems build bridges with Ukraine AND Russia. He isn't going to let China isolate and profit anynore. It is definitely a delicate dance

Putin has said he will not permit Ukraine to have ties to the west.

 

[Zavulon]

Putin has said he will not permit Ukraine to have ties to the west.

Economic ties are OK. Military ties are not OK.

 

[Deadstick]

Putin has said he will not permit Ukraine to have ties to the west.

Depends what you mean by ties? NATO in Ukraine or any such foreign troops is off the agenda, economic ties could be a different matter, just saw your post Zavulon you beat me to it with the same point.

 

[Litwin]

Trump won't push for NATO but 2) he will it seems build bridges with Ukraine AND 1) Russia.

1) its a myth , Republicans hate Moscow empire, his plan to use oil prices /sanctions instead the bullets and rockets

"I suggest that President Trump might want to study how Ronald Reagan defeated the Bolshevik empire.


"He did it without firing a shot, as we know, but he had a super weapon -- oil.

- Reagan’s son, Michael Reagan

Trump made a sweet deal with KSA already, oil- prices will be around 35$ (less than 30 for Urals)


thats why Moscow propaganda is full of crap today

2) I was the one (and first) who wrote here about a golden bridge for putin, looks like you didn´t get it right

How to Offer a Golden Bridge in Conflict

 

[Litwin]

Economic ties are OK. Military ties are not OK.

its colonial 18c. mindset , you ´ll never get it ivan.

Thread 'Chinese academic Deng Xize : "No more Mongol-Muscovy style empire: Thoughts on the war in Ukraine, ...such empires will no longer be tolerated."'

Sep 20, 2023

Chinese academic Deng Xize : "No more Mongol-Muscovy style empire: Thoughts on the war in Ukraine, The global reaction to the war in Ukraine in fact shows that such empires will no longer be tolerated."​

The Mongol-Muscovy style empire could be defined as a dominating, rapacious empire upheld by violence, especially unruly violence, and exhibiting three prominent characteristics.


First, it uses unruly violence as a regular means of resolving international disputes. While violence is common and sometimes necessary in political or social governance, rules...

• Litwin
• mongol-muscovy
• Replies: 67
• Forum: Europe

 

[AZrailwhale]

Depends what you mean by ties? NATO in Ukraine or any such foreign troops is off the agenda, economic ties could be a different matter, just saw your post Zavulon you beat me to it with the same point.

Not according to Putin. Ukraine has to become a satellite country like Byelorussia.

 

[Litwin]

Not according to Putin. Ukraine has to become a satellite country like Byelorussia.

1) +1
2) correct form is Belarus (or Bielarus´) , Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, etc.

 

[Deadstick]

Not according to Putin. Ukraine has to become a satellite country like Byelorussia.

Show me a quote.

 

[Litwin]

Show me a quote.

Putin’s plan for a new Russian Empire includes both Ukraine and Belarus

A leaked document detailing Russia's plans to absorb Belarus highlights the scale of Vladimir Putin's imperial ambitions and provides insights into the true objectives behind the invasion of Ukraine, writes Taras Kuzio.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

Russia is now pretending it knows nothing of its colonial legacy

Russia has always been one of the largest European colonial powers. Yet, its current leaders are engaging in the historical game of geopolitical opportunism that has been a recurring theme in the nation's grand strategy, Maxim Trudolyubov writes.

www.euronews.com

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/10/europe/russia-putin-empire-restoration-endgame-intl-cmd/index.html

 

[Deadstick]

Putin’s plan for a new Russian Empire includes both Ukraine and Belarus

A leaked document detailing Russia's plans to absorb Belarus highlights the scale of Vladimir Putin's imperial ambitions and provides insights into the true objectives behind the invasion of Ukraine, writes Taras Kuzio.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

Russia is now pretending it knows nothing of its colonial legacy

Russia has always been one of the largest European colonial powers. Yet, its current leaders are engaging in the historical game of geopolitical opportunism that has been a recurring theme in the nation's grand strategy, Maxim Trudolyubov writes.

www.euronews.com

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/10/europe/russia-putin-empire-restoration-endgame-intl-cmd/index.html

 

[Ringo]

Serbia has withdrawn its vote in favor of the anti-Russian resolution at the United Nations (UN) on Ukraine. Serbian Foreign Minister Marko Djuric said this in an interview with NIN on March 12.

“Serbia's mission to the UN has changed its vote at the UN General Assembly on the Ukrainian resolution,” Djuric said.

Serbian President Aleksandra Vucic said on February 25 that the country's representatives voted in favor of the document by mistake and apologized to citizens, admitting his guilt in the incident.

“I think Serbia made a mistake today. <...> Serbia should have abstained. I have no one to blame but myself, as I did not pay enough attention to this issue,” Vucic said.

Earlier, on February 25, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Moscow was impressed by the prompt reaction of the Serbian president, who apologized for Belgrade's support for the anti-Russian UN resolution.

The UN General Assembly adopted an anti-Russian resolution on Ukraine on February 24. The draft was supported by 93 countries, 18 states voted against the adoption, and 65 countries abstained from voting.

 

[Litwin]

Serbia

Exclusive: Leaked U.S. intel document claims Serbia agreed to arm Ukraine

Serbia has agreed to supply arms to Kyiv or has sent them already, according to a classified Pentagon document, despite the country's professed neutrality in the Ukraine war and refusal to sanction Russia.

www.reuters.com

FT: Around $855 million in Serbian ammunition reaches Ukraine

Serbian-Ukrainian relationships are complicated by Belgrade's friendly attitude toward Russia, as Serbia has refused to join sanctions against Moscow.

kyivindependent.com