Litwin
Diamond Member
The primary contiguous red area is not in Mongol - Moscow horde at all, but in West Ukraine. Which is indeed the only remotely "conservative" (in the American sense) area of the East Slavic world. Coincidentally or not, it had never been ruled by Mongol - Moscow horde (in all formats ) , except for a short period in 1939-1991 (Moscow Bolshevik commie empire )

