Monkey Business & Profits... Is There Ever Enough?

[AVG-JOE]

When Monkeys are considering doing something... anything from making Monkey windows to sell to busy Monkeys for their beautiful Monkey houses, to building Monkey roads used by Monkey truckers to deliver beautiful windows... From the skill, sweat and risk involved in the logistics, distribution, storage, sales and install, to the Monkey business at the heart of controlling and tracking the little something-something that an average American Monkey tries to set aside via savings or insurance, to replace said Monkey windows in the event of Monkey tragedy....

Where, in all this varied Monkey Business, should 'driven by profit' rank?

 

[AVG-JOE]

Now, I'm all about the Monkey Business

"Thank (insert your preferred Deity here) it's Monday!!"


"Let's make some MONEY!!"

 

[AVG-JOE]

This Monkey activity, that company of Monkeys...

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This association of Monkeys, that Monkey industry...

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Manufacturing Monkey windows and wigits...

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Driving Monkey trucks and forking Monkey loads...

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Toting Monkey bails and filling Monkey barges...

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Profits afford choices galore in the manufacture, distribution and installation of windows and wigits alike!

But at what cost?


Should human resources be squeezed by investor Monkeys just gain two cents per share?

Is three cents a share justification for raping Mother Earth?

 

[AVG-JOE]

Tracking Monkey Business...
Holy PaperWork, Monkeyman!!!


Monkey Bureaucracies! Busy, busy Monkeys! Data and marks, marks and data paving the paper trail that winds along forever through modern American Monkey Business!


Avg Prediction No. 38: Within 200 years, just about every Monkey engaged in Earthly Monkey Business will be self insured for business and property, using government managed bureaucracies to handle the paperwork. Monkeys will voluntarily buy in at rates based on the amount of risk that they want protection against, and payout disputes will be decided by elected judges.

 

[AVG-JOE]

The average for-profit 21st Century all American health-care paperwork bureaucracy strives to limit spending on the costs of operating the bureaucracy to only twenty to twenty-five percent.... Medicare and The VA run on three to five percent, depending on who's crunching the numbers.

I don't know about the rest of y'all, but this average Monkey would be more than willing to spend seven to ten on a health-care paperwork bureaucracy that works really well, while not screwing me in a bad way.

Is owning the bureaucracy that takes the money from the employer of little Johnny, and then pays for little Johnny's boo-boo when Johnny busts his little ass really justification for the new Ferrari in the mansion yard? Apparently, We, The Peeps can get the job done for a hell of a lot less.

Avg Prediction No. 45: Within 200 years, tracking Monkey health-care transactions will be managed by a single payer government bureaucracy. The program will be based on Medicare and the Veterans Administration. Everyone will pay in voluntarily at rates based on age and consistency of participation.

 

[Sonny Clark]

When Monkeys are considering doing something... anything from making Monkey windows to sell to busy Monkeys for their beautiful Monkey houses, to building Monkey roads used by Monkey truckers to deliver beautiful windows... From the skill, sweat and risk involved in the logistics, distribution, storage, sales and install, to the Monkey business at the heart of controlling and tracking the little something-something that an average American Monkey tries to set aside via savings or insurance, to replace said Monkey windows in the event of Monkey tragedy....

Where, in all this varied Monkey Business, should 'driven by profit' rank?

Mutually beneficial to the whole. Profits drive the economy. Profits allow the economic circulation from raw goods, to products, to outlets, to consumers, then back to purchasing more raw goods to make more products, and the cycle and circulation continues. Without profits, the cycle ( chain ) is broken. Profits are the incentives to continue the cycle from raw materials to the finished product, to outlets, and then to consumers. This promotes economic circulation.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Mutually beneficial to the whole. Profits drive the economy. Profits allow the economic circulation from raw goods, to products, to outlets, to consumers, then back to purchasing more raw goods to make more products, and the cycle and circulation continues. Without profits, the cycle ( chain ) is broken. Profits are the incentives to continue the cycle from raw materials to the finished product, to outlets, and then to consumers. This promotes economic circulation.

In a free market - yes.
But we don't have a free market. Sooo....

 

[Sonny Clark]

Mutually beneficial to the whole. Profits drive the economy. Profits allow the economic circulation from raw goods, to products, to outlets, to consumers, then back to purchasing more raw goods to make more products, and the cycle and circulation continues. Without profits, the cycle ( chain ) is broken. Profits are the incentives to continue the cycle from raw materials to the finished product, to outlets, and then to consumers. This promotes economic circulation.

In a free market - yes.
But we don't have a free market. Sooo....

It doesn't matter what kind of market you have. The principles and cycle are the same. Raw materials are turned into products, consumers buy the products, and the cycle repeats itself. Econ 101.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Mutually beneficial to the whole. Profits drive the economy. Profits allow the economic circulation from raw goods, to products, to outlets, to consumers, then back to purchasing more raw goods to make more products, and the cycle and circulation continues. Without profits, the cycle ( chain ) is broken. Profits are the incentives to continue the cycle from raw materials to the finished product, to outlets, and then to consumers. This promotes economic circulation.

In a free market - yes.
But we don't have a free market. Sooo....

It doesn't matter what kind of market you have. The principles and cycle are the same. Raw materials are turned into products, consumers buy the products, and the cycle repeats itself. Econ 101.

And pre-revolution France also ran on profit.
Profit isn't the engine, free markets are.
Economics 102.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

When Monkeys are considering doing something... anything from making Monkey windows to sell to busy Monkeys for their beautiful Monkey houses, to building Monkey roads used by Monkey truckers to deliver beautiful windows... From the skill, sweat and risk involved in the logistics, distribution, storage, sales and install, to the Monkey business at the heart of controlling and tracking the little something-something that an average American Monkey tries to set aside via savings or insurance, to replace said Monkey windows in the event of Monkey tragedy....

Where, in all this varied Monkey Business, should 'driven by profit' rank?

Monkey is a Crypto racist dig, please refrain from using it

 

[Mac1958]

Monkey is a Crypto racist dig, please refrain from using it

Definitely some micro-aggression going on there.

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[Sonny Clark]

Mutually beneficial to the whole. Profits drive the economy. Profits allow the economic circulation from raw goods, to products, to outlets, to consumers, then back to purchasing more raw goods to make more products, and the cycle and circulation continues. Without profits, the cycle ( chain ) is broken. Profits are the incentives to continue the cycle from raw materials to the finished product, to outlets, and then to consumers. This promotes economic circulation.

In a free market - yes.
But we don't have a free market. Sooo....

It doesn't matter what kind of market you have. The principles and cycle are the same. Raw materials are turned into products, consumers buy the products, and the cycle repeats itself. Econ 101.

And pre-revolution France also ran on profit.
Profit isn't the engine, free markets are.
Economics 102.

How does any market, or any economy, run without profits? Econ 101

 

[Sonny Clark]

Monkey is a Crypto racist dig, please refrain from using it

Definitely some micro-aggression going on there.

.

Par for the course, nothing unusual.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Mutually beneficial to the whole. Profits drive the economy. Profits allow the economic circulation from raw goods, to products, to outlets, to consumers, then back to purchasing more raw goods to make more products, and the cycle and circulation continues. Without profits, the cycle ( chain ) is broken. Profits are the incentives to continue the cycle from raw materials to the finished product, to outlets, and then to consumers. This promotes economic circulation.

In a free market - yes.
But we don't have a free market. Sooo....

It doesn't matter what kind of market you have. The principles and cycle are the same. Raw materials are turned into products, consumers buy the products, and the cycle repeats itself. Econ 101.

And pre-revolution France also ran on profit.
Profit isn't the engine, free markets are.
Economics 102.

How does any market, or any economy, run without profits? Econ 101

I am not saying any can, of course profits are a necessity. Profit is not an option.
Profit is what creates growth, creates markets and is the reason they continue.
I am not saying profit isn't vital. It absolutely is.
My point is, just like anything else, there can be too much of a good thing.
Today's markets are profit driven to the max. And the faster a profit can be achieved - the better, even if that means future profits cease. They simply move their money to somewhere else and repeat.
They are sacrificing the health of the markets and businesses that make it up for quick profits.

 

[Sonny Clark]

Mutually beneficial to the whole. Profits drive the economy. Profits allow the economic circulation from raw goods, to products, to outlets, to consumers, then back to purchasing more raw goods to make more products, and the cycle and circulation continues. Without profits, the cycle ( chain ) is broken. Profits are the incentives to continue the cycle from raw materials to the finished product, to outlets, and then to consumers. This promotes economic circulation.

In a free market - yes.
But we don't have a free market. Sooo....

It doesn't matter what kind of market you have. The principles and cycle are the same. Raw materials are turned into products, consumers buy the products, and the cycle repeats itself. Econ 101.

And pre-revolution France also ran on profit.
Profit isn't the engine, free markets are.
Economics 102.

How does any market, or any economy, run without profits? Econ 101

I am not saying any can, of course profits are a necessity. Profit is not an option.
Profit is what creates growth, creates markets and is the reason they continue.
I am not saying profit isn't vital. It absolutely is.
My point is, just like anything else, there can be too much of a good thing.
Today's markets are profit driven to the max. And the faster a profit can be achieved - the better, even if that means future profits cease. They simply move their money to somewhere else and repeat.
They are sacrificing the health of the markets and businesses that make it up for quick profits.

Did you read the question posed in the root article? The question asked was, "where does profit rank?". FYI - Profit is the catalyst that provides the incentive to keep the cycle going. The cycle is raw materials, products, consumer, then back to raw materials, products, and then to the consumer. Econ 101.

Read the root post please. Check the question at the bottom of the root article.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

In a free market - yes.
But we don't have a free market. Sooo....

It doesn't matter what kind of market you have. The principles and cycle are the same. Raw materials are turned into products, consumers buy the products, and the cycle repeats itself. Econ 101.

And pre-revolution France also ran on profit.
Profit isn't the engine, free markets are.
Economics 102.

How does any market, or any economy, run without profits? Econ 101

I am not saying any can, of course profits are a necessity. Profit is not an option.
Profit is what creates growth, creates markets and is the reason they continue.
I am not saying profit isn't vital. It absolutely is.
My point is, just like anything else, there can be too much of a good thing.
Today's markets are profit driven to the max. And the faster a profit can be achieved - the better, even if that means future profits cease. They simply move their money to somewhere else and repeat.
They are sacrificing the health of the markets and businesses that make it up for quick profits.

Did you read the question posed in the root article? The question asked was, "where does profit rank?". FYI - Profit is the catalyst that provides the incentive to keep the cycle going. The cycle is raw materials, products, consumer, then back to raw materials, products, and then to the consumer. Econ 101.

Read the root post please. Check the question at the bottom of the root article.

Well you gotta admit the OP's post were a bit...unorthodox.

Profit is a required result of production/markets.
Without it, any business is temporary at best.
However, profit is not king. It cannot be the whole purpose.
A good example...
A company has little debt. It's real property is worth $2 mil. It's capital assets and inventory is worth $1 mil.
After taxes and reinvestment costs, both current and future, averages $300k net profit per year.
So in essence, selling the business and assets would gain you about 8 years of profit. (after taxes)
So you sell it. You cash in and now you can reinvest your money for a higher return, or even less return.
It is simplified way, this is happening all over America, and has been happening for the past 20 years.
Not just selling whole businesses, but assets and portions of a business for quick profits.

 

[Sonny Clark]

It doesn't matter what kind of market you have. The principles and cycle are the same. Raw materials are turned into products, consumers buy the products, and the cycle repeats itself. Econ 101.

And pre-revolution France also ran on profit.
Profit isn't the engine, free markets are.
Economics 102.

How does any market, or any economy, run without profits? Econ 101

I am not saying any can, of course profits are a necessity. Profit is not an option.
Profit is what creates growth, creates markets and is the reason they continue.
I am not saying profit isn't vital. It absolutely is.
My point is, just like anything else, there can be too much of a good thing.
Today's markets are profit driven to the max. And the faster a profit can be achieved - the better, even if that means future profits cease. They simply move their money to somewhere else and repeat.
They are sacrificing the health of the markets and businesses that make it up for quick profits.

Did you read the question posed in the root article? The question asked was, "where does profit rank?". FYI - Profit is the catalyst that provides the incentive to keep the cycle going. The cycle is raw materials, products, consumer, then back to raw materials, products, and then to the consumer. Econ 101.

Read the root post please. Check the question at the bottom of the root article.

Well you gotta admit the OP's post were a bit...unorthodox.

Profit is a required result of production/markets.
Without it, any business is temporary at best.
However, profit is not king. It cannot be the whole purpose.
A good example...
A company has little debt. It's real property is worth $2 mil. It's capital assets and inventory is worth $1 mil.
After taxes and reinvestment costs, both current and future, averages $300k net profit per year.
So in essence, selling the business and assets would gain you about 8 years of profit. (after taxes)
So you sell it. You cash in and now you can reinvest your money for a higher return, or even less return.
It is simplified way, this is happening all over America, and has been happening for the past 20 years.
Not just selling whole businesses, but assets and portions of a business for quick profits.

And, the bottom line is what? ... Profit !!!!!!!! ..... Econ 101 ......

 

[AVG-JOE]

Monkey is a Crypto racist dig, please refrain from using it

Definitely some micro-aggression going on there.

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Not aggression.... Love.

The only thing I like better than living among them is being one. Monkeys: animals who're aware.