Mongols were such bad azz warriors

[Quasar44]

The Nazis and Napoleon got destroyed in Russia

The mongols easily went through Russia and sacked Moscow on 2 occasions

 

[Godboy]

They had horses to eat. They even drank their blood, without killing the horse, at times. Nazis couldnt eat tanks. Mongols had heavy leathers and furs to protect them from the cold, but the Nazis were ill-prepared for winter.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The Nazis and Napoleon got destroyed in Russia

The mongols easily went through Russia and sacked Moscow on 2 occasions

The Russians defeated the Mongols in Russia at the Battle of Kulikovo in 1380 and the Great Standing on the Ugra River in 1480.

 

[Litwin]

sacked Moscow on 2 occasions

Mongols has created Moscow. Belarusians 2 (the second time together with Poles ) times sacked Moscow as well

https://jsis.washington.edu/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2017/05/Bedeski_Robert_Mongol-Foundations-of-the-Russian-State-1.pdf

 

[Litwin]

sacked Moscow

Napoleon sacked Moscow as well )

 

[Litwin]

The Russians defeated the Mongols in Russia at the Battle of Kulikovo in 1380 and the Great Standing on the Ugra River in 1480.

so what ? Moscow ulus has been part (de jure) of Mongol empire until 18c.

this what has happened to you if you dont pay taxes in time, to the legal Mongol tsars

Fire of Moscow (1571) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Giray dynasty - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Harry Dresden]

so what ? Moscow ulus has been part (de jure) of Mongol empire until 18c.

this what has happened to you if you dont pay taxes in time, to the legal Mongol tsars

Fire of Moscow (1571) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Giray dynasty - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

so what?....read the previous post ....

 

[Zincwarrior]

The Nazis and Napoleon got destroyed in Russia

The mongols easily went through Russia and sacked Moscow on 2 occasions

Hungarians beat them.

 

[Litwin]

so what?....read the previous post ....

Moscow horde´s war record :-

1856 defeated by Britain and France

1905 defeated by Japan

1917 defeated by Germany

1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states

1939 defeated by Finland

1969 defeated by China

1989 defeated by Afghanistan

1989 defeated in the Cold War.

1996 defeated by Chechnya

2022 defeated by Ukraine

2024 defeated in Syria


WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn

Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :-

a) Hungary 1956

b) Czechoslovakia 1968

c) Moldova 1992

d) Georgia 2008

 

[Litwin]

Hungarians beat them.

Hungarian freedom dreams were brutally crashed by Moscow ulus 2 times


and orban :

 

[Quasar44]

Didn’t the Mongols have trouble in India and Vietnam ??

 

[Zincwarrior]

Didn’t the Mongols have trouble in India and Vietnam ??

Vietnam yes. I don't think they ventured into India, but I could be wrong.

 

[Litwin]

Didn’t the Mongols have trouble in India and Vietnam ??

1.

Grand Mughal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

2.
Mongols dont fight in the Jungles

 

[Quasar44]

1.

Grand Mughal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

2.
Mongols dont fight in the Jungles

they did rule Vietnam

 

[Litwin]

they did rule Vietnam

2 points, 1) many people dont know that Moscow empire is the last real Mongol empire 2) and France /US saved Vietnam nation from Han-China´s genocidal occuption. France /US´d send a bill to Vietnam government

Thread 'Chinese academic Deng Xize : "No more Mongol-Muscovy style empire: Thoughts on the war in Ukraine, ...such empires will no longer be tolerated."'

Sep 20, 2023

Chinese academic Deng Xize : "No more Mongol-Muscovy style empire: Thoughts on the war in Ukraine, The global reaction to the war in Ukraine in fact shows that such empires will no longer be tolerated."​

The Mongol-Muscovy style empire could be defined as a dominating, rapacious empire upheld by violence, especially unruly violence, and exhibiting three prominent characteristics.


First, it uses unruly violence as a regular means of resolving international disputes. While violence is common and sometimes necessary in political or social governance, rules...

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[Harry Dresden]

Moscow horde´s war record :-

1856 defeated by Britain and France

1905 defeated by Japan

1917 defeated by Germany

1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states

1939 defeated by Finland

1969 defeated by China

1989 defeated by Afghanistan

1989 defeated in the Cold War.

1996 defeated by Chechnya

2022 defeated by Ukraine

2024 defeated in Syria


WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn

Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :-

a) Hungary 1956

b) Czechoslovakia 1968

c) Moldova 1992

d) Georgia 2008

so what?...read the previous post....

 

[whitehall]

Unconventional tactics combined with a religious willingness to die produced an impressive military force for a while.