Migrants Describe What Is Happening at Guantanamo Bay....Cruelty On A Massive Scale, Migrants Trying To Commit Suicide

[fncceo]

Migrants Trying To Commit Suicide​

Oh well … shoulda stayed home.

 

[JGalt]

So what....what the Jan 6 traitors did was far worse.

What the fuck ever, dude. Trump is your President, the January 6 hostages are free men and women, and those illegal criminals can rot in Gitmo.

How is that not a win?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

There is no due process when you just round someone up, have no trial, no jury and just lock them up for however long you feel like it. Just admit you support fascism.

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They were arrested for committing a crime.

Far more of a crime than your cult wanted to put President Trump in jail for.




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[j-mac]

A migrant originally from Venezuela, Diuvar Uzcátegui, described to the Washington Post what is happening at Guantanamo Bay. He was arrested in El Paso in late January, while working in construction. He had no criminal record at all. He fled Venezuela to escape the misery being caused there by dictator Nicholas Maduro.

He had been cooperating with ICE agents since December 2023, when he crossed the border illegally. He was informed by ICE that he missed an appointment with them in late January, which he denies, and that is when he was arrested by ICE and sent to Guantanamo. He then spent two weeks there before being sent back to Venezuela, almost losing his mind in the process.

The migrants are spending almost 24 hours per day in an isolated cell. They are allowed to go outside once per week. Psychologists have stated for years that prolonged isolation like this in a jail cell can cause people to lose their grip on reality. Several migrants have tried to kill themselves by various means, as described below.

This is straight out of Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia, treating human beings like this.

From the Washington Post. --

Uzcátegui, José Daniel Simancas and Franyer Montes said they were denied calls to lawyers or loved ones after repeated pleas. They said they were subjected to humiliating and invasive strip searches. They described prolonged periods in isolation, with only two one-hour opportunities to go outside over two weeks.

Their testimonies echoed the fears expressed by human rights groups — that migrants transferred to a place known for its isolation and history of torture allegations could be vulnerable to abuse.

The migrants’ conditions in Guantánamo “were horrific, and are far more restrictive, more severe and more abusive than what we would see in a typical immigration detention facility in the United States,” said Eunice Cho, a senior staff attorney at the ACLU National Prison Project. The American Civil Liberties Union is one of many organizations that sued the administration to allow legal access to the migrants.

The migrants described being supervised by military guards, a concern for legal rights groups that have stressed that immigrants are there because of a civil, immigration violation, not alleged war crimes like the 9/11 detainees. Blurring the lines between civilian and military enforcement, Cho said, encroaches “on the division between civil society and militarized society.”

“At the end of the day, military staff are not supposed to be enforcing civilian law, which is immigration law,” Cho said. “And by placing military guards to detain people in detention, that is exactly what is happening.”

Cho said the migrants’ alleged days-long stretch in their cells also fits the definition of solitary confinement as laid out by the United Nations’ Nelson Mandela Rules, which define it as holding prisoners for more than 22 hours per day without “meaningful human contact.”

In the days that followed, more migrants began filling the naval station prison. Uzcátegui could hear men screaming from other cells, he said, pleading to be let out and threatening to kill themselves.

“Get me out of here,” he heard one scream again and again. “I’m going to kill myself.”

Franyer Montes, 22, said he reached a point in his 13-day incarceration when he considered taking his own life. Thoughts of his mother and child held him back.

José Daniel Simancas was one of the detainees who tried to kill himself during his 10-day stay there. He attempted to cut his wrists with plastic water bottles that he had tried to sharpen. But the edges didn’t cut deep enough, he said. He and the other migrants interviewed for this story said they had seen or spoken with at least two other men who acknowledged trying to end their own lives.

“One tried to hang himself with the sheet, but he couldn’t tie it to the table because it was too small,” Simancas said. “Another swallowed 10 screws, and they took him to the emergency room several times.”

He added, “We all thought about killing ourselves.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immi...tanamo-trump-migrants-deportations-venezuela/

Need a tissue?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

If he broke the law, then the law says they are required due process.

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And you just know in your intuitive mind that they're not getting due process.




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[EvilCat Breath]

If he broke the law, then the law says they are required due process.

Which he got.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

A deportation can take weeks, sometimes it even tales a couple of years. Let's see you locked up in solitary confinement, which is typically the harshest punishment in our prison system for weeks to years for just overstaying your visa. History won't look kindly on what's happening here.

It’s almost as if you’re better off spending that time to come here legally.

 

[krichton]

Which he got.

How does rounding up a person and taking him directly to prison considered "due process?" Just tell us how much you love fascism already.

 

[jc456]

A migrant originally from Venezuela, Diuvar Uzcátegui, described to the Washington Post what is happening at Guantanamo Bay. He was arrested in El Paso in late January, while working in construction. He had no criminal record at all. He fled Venezuela to escape the misery being caused there by dictator Nicholas Maduro.

He had been cooperating with ICE agents since December 2023, when he crossed the border illegally. He was informed by ICE that he missed an appointment with them in late January, which he denies, and that is when he was arrested by ICE and sent to Guantanamo. He then spent two weeks there before being sent back to Venezuela, almost losing his mind in the process.

The migrants are spending almost 24 hours per day in an isolated cell. They are allowed to go outside once per week. Psychologists have stated for years that prolonged isolation like this in a jail cell can cause people to lose their grip on reality. Several migrants have tried to kill themselves by various means, as described below.

This is straight out of Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia, treating human beings like this.

From the Washington Post. --

Uzcátegui, José Daniel Simancas and Franyer Montes said they were denied calls to lawyers or loved ones after repeated pleas. They said they were subjected to humiliating and invasive strip searches. They described prolonged periods in isolation, with only two one-hour opportunities to go outside over two weeks.

Their testimonies echoed the fears expressed by human rights groups — that migrants transferred to a place known for its isolation and history of torture allegations could be vulnerable to abuse.

The migrants’ conditions in Guantánamo “were horrific, and are far more restrictive, more severe and more abusive than what we would see in a typical immigration detention facility in the United States,” said Eunice Cho, a senior staff attorney at the ACLU National Prison Project. The American Civil Liberties Union is one of many organizations that sued the administration to allow legal access to the migrants.

The migrants described being supervised by military guards, a concern for legal rights groups that have stressed that immigrants are there because of a civil, immigration violation, not alleged war crimes like the 9/11 detainees. Blurring the lines between civilian and military enforcement, Cho said, encroaches “on the division between civil society and militarized society.”

“At the end of the day, military staff are not supposed to be enforcing civilian law, which is immigration law,” Cho said. “And by placing military guards to detain people in detention, that is exactly what is happening.”

Cho said the migrants’ alleged days-long stretch in their cells also fits the definition of solitary confinement as laid out by the United Nations’ Nelson Mandela Rules, which define it as holding prisoners for more than 22 hours per day without “meaningful human contact.”

In the days that followed, more migrants began filling the naval station prison. Uzcátegui could hear men screaming from other cells, he said, pleading to be let out and threatening to kill themselves.

“Get me out of here,” he heard one scream again and again. “I’m going to kill myself.”

Franyer Montes, 22, said he reached a point in his 13-day incarceration when he considered taking his own life. Thoughts of his mother and child held him back.

José Daniel Simancas was one of the detainees who tried to kill himself during his 10-day stay there. He attempted to cut his wrists with plastic water bottles that he had tried to sharpen. But the edges didn’t cut deep enough, he said. He and the other migrants interviewed for this story said they had seen or spoken with at least two other men who acknowledged trying to end their own lives.

“One tried to hang himself with the sheet, but he couldn’t tie it to the table because it was too small,” Simancas said. “Another swallowed 10 screws, and they took him to the emergency room several times.”

He added, “We all thought about killing ourselves.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immi...tanamo-trump-migrants-deportations-venezuela/

Hilarious. boo fking hoo.

 

[jc456]

everyone in a prison is innocent. we all know that.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

How does rounding up a person and taking him directly to prison considered "due process?" Just tell us how much you love fascism already.

In the case of those sent to Guantanamo, either they are already under deportation orders and have evaded or they are violent gang members who have committed serious crimes.

You know that once someone is ordered deported, they are not entitled to a hearing of any kind.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Most migrants seeking work here will simply get an ITIN. There's no need to steal a SSN, which if caught will lead to a lot of trouble for them.

How would they fill out the I-9 in that case?

 

[Mac-7]

Dr. Phosphorous

Maybe we should use these unhappy gitmo prisoners to make Public Service Announcements in their native language telling others of their stripe not to try sneaking into America

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

These migrants broke the law but they're not criminals.

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Only the most indoctrinated left cultist could say such a thing.




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[Donald H]

You mean total government control over the private sector.

No, not total government control, but definitely gov control over health care or other services that can be done much more cost effectively than the private sector ripoff. Huge profits can't be skimmed off and still expect the people's needs to be fulfilled.
It's the reason why Trump is able to recruit the working class. They've been fooled too many times by the Dems. The only problem being that Trump lied. What can be expected from a corporate billionaire psychopath?

Concentrate on your shithole,

I do concentrate on how Canada has moved ahead with the Scandinavian example of sociially responsible government.

Canuck and go ass fuck Turdeau one more time.

Americans like you need to get over the rage that was created by the American way and be ready for even more from Trump. No wonder you turn to racism as an outlet! You won't be happy until the shooting starts.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

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Only the most indoctrinated left cultist could say such a thing.




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Why even bother responding to that drivel?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Blah blah blah....the cruelty is the point.

Migrants with no violent criminal record trying to commit suicide after being at Guantanamo a few days gives you a stiffy.

They aren't migrants. They are illegal immigrants.

 

[WEATHER53]

Don't cross our border illegally and guess what? You won't get confined

Remember with lib loons the crime is always what happens to the criminal

 

[WEATHER53]

They aren't migrants. They are illegal immigrants.

Plainly spoken they are breaking and entering criminals whose very first act on American soil is an illegal one. Therefore the thought process then dictates how many more illegalities do they feel empowered to commit ?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Plainly spoken they are breaking and entering criminals whose very first act on American soil is an illegal one. Therefore the thought process then dictates how many more illegalities do they feel empowered to commit ?

Hint: It's why they're called illegals