Mexicans in LA, Somalis in Minneapolis, Haitians in Springfield…Placed by politicians in swing states. Are they improving the communities they inhabit

[Kondor3]

I hate to break this to yous but whites do dat shit also.

Then explain the excellent condition of all Northern cities in the centuries prior to the Great Migration Plague of Locusts...

Compared to how they are now, decades after Whites left in disgust and left them to Minorities to run into the ground...

 

[BrokeLoser]

They are not here illegally.

Elaborate….we gotta hear this spin.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Outside of Springfield, we’ve heard of those cities. People visit those cities. They are prosperous cities.

Homogeneous former confederate states have been backward enclaves for about 150 years now. When was the last time you (or anyone else) thought about Arkansas?

Since this, as with all of your threads is about race, have these nearly all-white states (comparatively speaking) improved in 150 years?

San Francisco brings in more in tourist dollars than the ENTIRE BUDGET for the state of Mississippi. Let that sink in.

The backward enclave now is San francisco and the other cities in californis which are third world cess pools

There is still mass exodus from that state where rich and poor alike are fleeing from massive taxes crime drugs and homelss encampments. Dollars are not the end all of what makes a livable state

They are NOtz prosperous cities they are criumbling decaying third world communities in the US

 

[Soupnazi630]

We could've kept them in their home countries if we hadn't imposed economic sanctions and bombed, invaded them. If we warmonger and abuse them financially, then they come here to the empire. So as a citizen of the empire and member of the aristocracy of labor, you should have a better foreign policy and take control of your government, rather than allowing wealthy capitalist plutocrats to continue ruling over you, under the guise of "liberal democracy". Rise up and take your country back before it destroys itself and the world.

Do you object? OK, well learn Spanish. Go eat a taco.

Bullshit

We never bombed Haiti.

Your entire sanctions and invasion trope is revisionist marxist crap

Haiti is a failed socialist state like all states and they failed because socialism is an evil and failed ideology. Much like venezuela wghich we never placed sanctions on.

 

[Soupnazi630]

I hate to break this to yous but whites do dat shit also.

Yeah left wing whites do dat shit like they are doing in California.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Yeah left wing whites do dat shit like they are doing in California.

Exactly, here’s those white folks Moonglow is describing….a bunch of conservatives practicing American values.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Wait, who are these guys then?

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They’re from the side that lost.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Elaborate….we gotta hear this spin.

The Haitians in Springfield are here legally via their refugee status. They are not illegal, they did not sneak across the border.

Are you really this ignorant of the facts of the situation?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Much like venezuela wghich we never placed sanctions on.

Wrong again.

https://ofac.treasury.gov/sanctions-programs-and-country-information/venezuela-related-sanctions

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF10715

Venezuela-Related Sanctions

 

[Soupnazi630]

The Haitians in Springfield are here legally via their refugee status. They are not illegal, they did not sneak across the border.

Are you really this ignorant of the facts of the situation?

Which was granted AFTER they arrived illegally. Biden granted them protected status after their illegal entry

Then dumped them on springfield because the town was a stong Trump voting community

 

[BrokeLoser]

Look around the country and ask yourself, why do Democrats push policies and theories they know are detrimental to American society? Why do they gaslight us on the issue of diversity?
Face it, there’s really only one answer that makes any sense at all….VOTERSHIP!

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong again.

https://ofac.treasury.gov/sanctions-programs-and-country-information/venezuela-related-sanctions

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF10715

Technical Difficulties

I am right again.

You proved it,

We sanctioned individuals not the nation

Venezuela failed strictly because of socialism

 

[BrokeLoser]

The Haitians in Springfield are here legally via their refugee status. They are not illegal, they did not sneak across the border.

Are you really this ignorant of the facts of the situation?

Oh I see…you cherry-picked.
What about the 30 million Mexicans in Mexifornia and throughout the nation?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Oh I see…you cherry-picked.
What about the 30 million Mexicans in Mexifornia and throughout the nation?

It is your fucking thread topic....excuse the fuck out of me for staying on the topic you started.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

you can be anything you want on the internet.....including a guy who claims he aint a racist and hates no one for their skin color but yet refers to darker people as "cockroaches" in many of his posts....

Perhaps not because of their skin color but because of their culture.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Bullshit

We never bombed Haiti.

Your entire sanctions and invasion trope is revisionist marxist crap

Haiti is a failed socialist state like all states and they failed because socialism is an evil and failed ideology. Much like venezuela wghich we never placed sanctions on.

You can't deny that France punished Haiti for its revolution, demanding reparations that financially strangled the nation from birth. Haiti’s failure isn't because of "socialism"—that's just your lazy buzzword. It’s because of relentless Western intervention, exploitation, and isolation. After the revolution, the U.S. occupied Haiti from 1915 to 1934, set up puppet governments, and used Haitian labor like a plantation. But sure, let’s keep pretending the West played no role in Haiti’s current state.

Now let’s talk about Venezuela, since you brought it up. You're wrong again—sanctions weren't placed on Venezuela? Really? The U.S. has been hitting Venezuela with sanctions for years, particularly after Chavez took office. Washington couldn’t stand the idea of a country with vast oil reserves daring to challenge its capitalist interests. The U.S. actively undermined Venezuela economically and politically through sanctions, freezing assets, and supporting the 2002 coup. So yeah, if Venezuela is struggling today, that's not because of "evil socialism"—it’s because the U.S. is choking them economically for daring to oppose American hegemony.

As for Cuba and Nicaragua, the pattern’s the same: economic sanctions, covert ops, attempted coups. The U.S. has orchestrated this game across Latin America for decades, but you dismiss all of that as "Marxist revisionism" because it’s easier to regurgitate capitalist talking points than face the truth. The real reason we have waves of illegal immigration is because American imperialism wrecks countries, making them unlivable for the people forced to leave. You can either admit that, or you can continue parroting Fox News headlines.

You call Haiti a “failed socialist state” but seem blind to the capitalist hellholes the U.S. props up around the world—where the elites get richer and the poor live in misery, kept under the boot of corrupt, U.S.-backed dictatorships. If we weren't destabilizing nations, plundering their resources, and manipulating their labor markets to enrich Western corporations, maybe—just maybe—they wouldn’t have to flee their homelands.

So yeah, before you spit out more revisionist garbage, understand this: U.S. imperialism is the root cause of much of the instability in Latin America. And until you acknowledge that, you're not debating in good faith, you're just echoing capitalist propaganda.

Now go enjoy that taco. You’ll be needing it after I just served you this reality check.

 

[Soupnazi630]

You can't deny that France punished Haiti for its revolution, demanding reparations that financially strangled the nation from birth. Haiti’s failure isn't because of "socialism"—that's just your lazy buzzword. It’s because of relentless Western intervention, exploitation, and isolation. After the revolution, the U.S. occupied Haiti from 1915 to 1934, set up puppet governments, and used Haitian labor like a plantation. But sure, let’s keep pretending the West played no role in Haiti’s current state.

Now let’s talk about Venezuela, since you brought it up. You're wrong again—sanctions weren't placed on Venezuela? Really? The U.S. has been hitting Venezuela with sanctions for years, particularly after Chavez took office. Washington couldn’t stand the idea of a country with vast oil reserves daring to challenge its capitalist interests. The U.S. actively undermined Venezuela economically and politically through sanctions, freezing assets, and supporting the 2002 coup. So yeah, if Venezuela is struggling today, that's not because of "evil socialism"—it’s because the U.S. is choking them economically for daring to oppose American hegemony.

As for Cuba and Nicaragua, the pattern’s the same: economic sanctions, covert ops, attempted coups. The U.S. has orchestrated this game across Latin America for decades, but you dismiss all of that as "Marxist revisionism" because it’s easier to regurgitate capitalist talking points than face the truth. The real reason we have waves of illegal immigration is because American imperialism wrecks countries, making them unlivable for the people forced to leave. You can either admit that, or you can continue parroting Fox News headlines.

You call Haiti a “failed socialist state” but seem blind to the capitalist hellholes the U.S. props up around the world—where the elites get richer and the poor live in misery, kept under the boot of corrupt, U.S.-backed dictatorships. If we weren't destabilizing nations, plundering their resources, and manipulating their labor markets to enrich Western corporations, maybe—just maybe—they wouldn’t have to flee their homelands.

So yeah, before you spit out more revisionist garbage, understand this: U.S. imperialism is the root cause of much of the instability in Latin America. And until you acknowledge that, you're not debating in good faith, you're just echoing capitalist propaganda.

Now go enjoy that taco. You’ll be needing it after I just served you this reality check.

you said " WE " which means the US we were not discussing france.

We set up a decent government which was overthrown by socialists
You are a LIAR we have never sanctioned venezuela

Cuba and Nicaragua are the same. SOCIALISM caused those nations problems not the US

Your plundering jack booted blah blah blah is empty disproven rheroric

I am stating fact youngster YOU are the one vomiting out revisionisty crap

 

[TruthNotBS]

you said " WE " which means the US we were not discussing france.

We set up a decent government which was overthrown by socialists
You are a LIAR we have never sanctioned venezuela

Cuba and Nicaragua are the same. SOCIALISM caused those nations problems not the US

Your plundering jack booted blah blah blah is empty disproven rheroric

I am stating fact youngster YOU are the one vomiting out revisionisty crap

Venezuelan sanctions: Executive Orders 13808 and 13884 (look them up) hit Venezuela with sanctions that crippled their oil industry and cut them off from international financial markets. But yeah, let’s pretend that had no impact on their economy, right? The U.S. basically declared economic warfare on Venezuela because they dared to nationalize their own resources and tell the U.S. or perhaps I should say, the American ruling capitalist class, to fuck-off. I say the "US", "we did this" or "we did that", but really it's not the American public that's at fault, it's the American ruling class, the big money plutocrats, the American oligarchy. Most Americans are too busy, working like mules, paycheck to paycheck.

Here’s your bedtime reading:

• https://ofac.treasury.gov/sanctions-programs-and-country-information/venezuela-related-sanctions

Bolivia: Remember Evo Morales? Probably not.​

The U.S. backed a right-wing coup in 2019 that overthrew Morales because he wouldn’t play ball with their neoliberal agenda. The Organization of American States (OAS), which, surprise, surprise, is funded by the U.S. State Department, cried fraud in an election without solid evidence. Morales was exiled, and Jeanine Áñez, the U.S.-friendly puppet, stepped in. But you think that's “restoring democracy,” . You're a clown. The socialists managed to take back power in the last election.

• More facts for your blindspot: Bolivia Coup

Bolivia’s Remarkable Socialist Success Story

President Evo Morales has transformed his country’s economy with an unapologetically left-wing agenda—but can it last?

www.thenation.com

Brazil: Lula, the man they couldn't break.​

The U.S. wasn’t happy with Lula da Silva—a populist who lifted millions out of poverty—so what did they do? They collaborated with Brazilian prosecutors to trump up corruption charges. It wasn’t until 2021 that Lula was exonerated, after the damage was already done. The right-wing hack Bolsonaro took power and Brazil’s economy became an even bigger playground for U.S. corporations. But sure, let’s pretend it’s just another case of “socialist failure.”

• Lula’s Prosecutors Want Him Released From Prison. He Refuses.

A Long List of U.S.-Backed Coups​

1. Honduras (2009) – The U.S., under your girl Hillary Clinton’s State Department, backed a coup that ousted President Manuel Zelaya. Why? Because Zelaya wanted to reform the constitution in ways that wouldn’t align with U.S. corporate interests. Clinton even admitted this in her memoir, but let’s sweep that under the rug, right?

How the US Created Violent Chaos in Honduras

The US-backed coup in Honduras ten years ago spawned a maelstrom of violence that terrorized ordinary Hondurans and forced caravans of migrants to flee the country. It was just another instance of US imperialism wreaking havoc on the world.

jacobin.com

1. Chile (1973) – The U.S. and CIA orchestrated the coup that ousted democratically-elected socialist Salvador Allende and installed dictator Pinochet, who went on to murder and torture thousands. That’s capitalist "liberation" for you.
2. Guatemala (1954) – The CIA toppled Jacobo Árbenz because he dared to challenge the almighty United Fruit Company by redistributing land. Can't have that in a free market, can we?
3. Nicaragua (1980s) – The U.S. funded and armed the Contras to destabilize the Sandinista government because they didn't want Nicaragua following the Cuban model. Never mind the massacres and war crimes committed by U.S.-backed forces.
4. Haiti (1915-1934) – The U.S. occupied Haiti, sucked it dry for decades, and left behind a corrupt system that’s been screwing the country ever since.

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The reality is simple: Every time a Latin American country tries to rise up and escape U.S. control, your precious capitalist overlords swoop in to sabotage it. Then you have the nerve to point at the mess and say, “See, socialism doesn’t work!” It’s like burning down someone’s house and then blaming them for being homeless.

If all Americans were like you, I wouldn't care if all of Latin America migrated to the US illegally and turned it into a Spanish-speaking country, because that's what America would deserve. But most Americans aren't like you, so we should fix our foreign policy, stop meddling in Latin American politics, letting those countries develop. If they choose to have mixed economies, i.e. capitalism with socialism, then so be it. Let's stop sabotaging them, and that would stop more than half of the illegal immigration because these people would stay in their own countries. They wouldn't want to leave.

 

[Meathead]

OR….are they improving votership for Democrats?
And why are these refugees being placed / kept together in large swaths? If DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH why wouldn’t we want to break these groups up and spread them around to allow them and others to experience the beauty of diversity?

Well, they are getting rid of those pesky pets.

 

[Harry Dresden]

More of me spanking you on the assView attachment 1011809

what does that got to with what i said about you being a phony?...this is just the same shit you have been saying all these years...