metal mountain

[egp320i]

spot on.......

bruce from iron maiden
rob from judas priest
dio from rainbow, elf, black sabbath and his own band
ozzy from black sabbath and his own band

 

[toobfreak]

spot on.......

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Spot on what? OPs require more than just two words. Obviously Ozzy on the right. Want to tell us more? Anything?

 

[The Duke]

spot on.......

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OK. Is that Halford? The others are spot on.
(as to who they are)
5:45 right here is pretty good.

 

[The Duke]

OK. Is that Halford? The others are spot on.
(as to who they are)
5:45 right here is pretty good.

Okay, so maybe I like the live adrenaline-fueled thing, which this is.

 

[egp320i]

Spot on what? OPs require more than just two words. Obviously Ozzy on the right. Want to tell us more? Anything?

fixed, I figured everybody who's been around for 40+ years knew who they were

 

[The Duke]

fixed, I figured everybody who's been around for 40+ years knew who they were

Okay, so it was Halford. That's cool.
I doubt Ozzy knows how profound he was back then.
He did the lyrics, Rhodes did the music.

 

[toobfreak]

fixed, I figured everybody who's been around for 40+ years knew who they were

No, I don't listen to iron maiden, judas priest or rainbow (or even the later Ozzy stuff) and don't even know those people's names. I've heard bits and pieces but never cared for the stuff. Black Sabbath actually says something, it was new and original. Most metal is just variations on a theme. A lot of it just stealing from what Black Sabbath created.

One of the exceptions were Soundgarden.

I've been allied with the music industry and have known major artists, and I guess most of this stuff just does not pass muster with me as skilled musical talent.

 

[egp320i]

Okay, so it was Halford. That's cool.
I doubt Ozzy knows how profound he was back then.
He did the lyrics, Rhodes did the music.

actually the first 4 albums was all bassist bob daisley
Not sure who did the lyrics when zack arrived

 

[egp320i]

No, I don't listen to iron maiden, judas priest or rainbow (or even the later Ozzy stuff) and don't even know those people's names. I've heard bits and pieces but never cared for the stuff. Black Sabbath actually says something, it was new and original. Most metal is just variations on a theme. A lot of it just stealing from what Black Sabbath created.

One of the exceptions were Soundgarden.

I've been allied with the music industry and have known major artists, and I guess most of this stuff just does not pass muster with me as skilled musical talent.

iron maiden are unique and never stole from anybody, stever harris writes all the lyrics himself, their content comes from books and history, bruce is a master storyteller and they change timing and tempo often
judas priest is just as old as black sabbath, totally different style

all 4 up there are 100% unique in what they did, nobody will replace them

 

[The Duke]

No, I don't listen to iron maiden, judas priest or rainbow (or even the later Ozzy stuff) and don't even know those people's names. I've heard bits and pieces but never cared for the stuff. Black Sabbath actually says something, it was new and original. Most metal is just variations on a theme. A lot of it just stealing from what Black Sabbath created.

One of the exceptions were Soundgarden.

I've been allied with the music industry and have known major artists, and I guess most of this stuff just does not pass muster with me as skilled musical talent.

So does Jack Russell have skilled musical talent?

 

[The Duke]

No, I don't listen to iron maiden, judas priest or rainbow (or even the later Ozzy stuff) and don't even know those people's names. I've heard bits and pieces but never cared for the stuff. Black Sabbath actually says something, it was new and original. Most metal is just variations on a theme. A lot of it just stealing from what Black Sabbath created.

One of the exceptions were Soundgarden.

I've been allied with the music industry and have known major artists, and I guess most of this stuff just does not pass muster with me as skilled musical talent.

You don't know about this? This is epic worldwide stuff, just sayin'.

 

[egp320i]

So does Jack Russell have skilled musical talent?

I would say so but does is past tense, just died here recently
I'd need to research if he wrote the lyrics
most of the hair band sang about drinking and sex, not exactly mind blowing content
early great white was very good, had blues in it and they were huge led zeppelin fans
I saw them once, they opened for whitesnake and it was an awesome concert

 

[egp320i]

this is one of their best songs about a man going to be executed
he goes through shock, grief, acceptance and finally [f-you]

........my soul will live on to tell the truth

this song has been analyzed by psychologists at how deep it is

many time changes........great storytelling

 

[egp320i]

You don't know about this? This is epic worldwide stuff, just sayin'.

you beat me to it so I will post fear of the dark, another awesome song with time changes about human nature
mankind is afraid of the dark, always has been and will be thus we have torches and flashlights

 

[toobfreak]

iron maiden are unique and never stole from anybody,

Hey, more power to you if they float your boat. I just listened to Trooper, Wasted Years and Hallowed Be Thy Name and to me, I'm not hearing anything new or original. I can identify many of the licks as things long ago done by Tony Iomi, the same guitar sounds (effects boxes), etc. To me, it just sounds like old material just chopped up and rearranged.

I have an 18 piece sound system and I could see sitting down right now and listening to Paranoid or Master of Reality all over again for probably the 100th time, but Iron Maiden doesn't hold my interest for even 5 seconds.

Here is something newer from Faith No More that gets a lot more interest from me for its sound, originality and creativity, Woodpeckers From Mars-- check it out:

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judas priest is just as old as black sabbath, totally different style

Nearly. JP was formed the year after Sabbath.

 

[toobfreak]

So does Jack Russell have skilled musical talent?

Can't say. I don't think I ever listened to Great White. I had to look him up.
I'll give him a listen.

 

[egp320i]

Hey, more power to you if they float your boat. I just listened to Trooper, Wasted Years and Hallowed Be Thy Name and to me, I'm not hearing anything new or original. I can identify many of the licks as things long ago done by Tony Iomi, the same guitar sounds (effects boxes), etc. To me, it just sounds like old material just chopped up and rearranged.

I have an 18 piece sound system and I could see sitting down right now and listening to Paranoid or Master of Reality all over again for probably the 100th time, but Iron Maiden doesn't hold my interest for even 5 seconds.

Here is something newer from Faith No More that gets a lot more interest from me for its sound, originality and creativity, Woodpeckers From Mars-- check it out:

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Nearly. JP was formed the year after Sabbath.

my older brother was into sabbath, I grew up listening what he did, ACDC as well

I still don't agree, tonni tuned down his guitars due to his fingers and he was the only one
Iron maiden have two excellent guitarists [now 3] not tuned down, not dark, moody music whatsoever

they are night and day apart in music, style and lyrics

stever harris has stated that geezer was a major influence on him with the way he played but steve also is the one that
created the galloping style of playing, he was the first

 

[The Duke]

Hey, more power to you if they float your boat. I just listened to Trooper, Wasted Years and Hallowed Be Thy Name and to me, I'm not hearing anything new or original.

Well, ya know, I had that concert on VHS in the 1990s, so...
Wasted Years had not been done yet. This was on there:

And my right headphone is dead, so I don't even hear the blonde dude playing.
That gives it a different perspective.

 

[toobfreak]

Well, ya know, I had that concert on VHS in the 1990s, so...
Wasted Years had not been done yet. This was on there:

Yeah, I'm probably just not the best person to ask about Metal, Duke. I mean, I'm a huge Black Sabbath fan, I have their first five albums before Ozzy fell off the wagon and they went downhill. And then there is Soundgarden, they had a lot of good stuff. And Deep purple was pretty good, I have a couple of their albums. Van Halen was pretty great for a while. I loved their first 2-3 albums. And Alice Cooper had two great albums I still love. Faith No More put out some good stuff. And Uriah Heep put out some pretty good stuff. I'm also a big fan of Iron Butterfly--- actually met Lee Dorman a few years before he died. I don't consider all those bands "metal," but some of them were listed in a website I used to help jog my sleepy brain.

Problem with metal is that it is very limited in both sound (the fuzz guitar distorted sound) and general content. Early Black Sabbath beat that out because they were new and diverse with a lot of their stuff (like Planet Caravan). But after Ozzy went off on his own, he fell into the model metal pitfall of nothing but heavy distortion and yelling. Problem with heavy fuzz is that it wipes out all of the harmonic character of the instrument. This lead to the head-banger genre which I'm not much a fan of. I'm definitely looking for compositional content and originality. Poor bands take one sound or riff and make a whole song out of it repeating it over and over--- great artists have songs which change up two or three times with totally different timings and content that any one of them could have made a whole song for a lesser band.

I had much deeper ties with the jazz-rock fusion genre liker Mahavishnu, Jeff Beck, Chick Corea, Stanley Clarke, Miles Davis, Jean-Luc Ponty, Billy Cobham, Zappa, Jan Hammer, Airforce, King Crimson, etc., and ended up getting a little involved with a couple people in the genre.

Then there was another favorite genre which was theme based album concept bands like The Moody Blues, Yes, Pink Floyd and the like. One might add psychedelic rock like Tangerine Dream and electronic rock like Synergy. A lot of this stuff never saw radio time because stations only want to play stuff 2-5 minutes long, not 12-20 minutes like Close To The Edge. I'm a huge Moody Blues and Yes fan. Steve Howe is an incredible guitarist as was most everyone in Yes.

And of course, a big fan of real rock like Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, early David Bowie, The Who, some Journey, early Rush, Doors, Yardbirds, and of course, the great ELP. Many of these bands literally defined Rock (or Hard Rock).

Of course, there is a lot of crossover here and I'm using websites to help jog my memory so there are lots of others I'm probably forgetting. I've even been known to spin a few classical musicians on the ol' turntable.

After the 1970s and the advent of MTV, bands really went commercial and there has not been a whole lot of new stuff out there I've heard that really impressed me. People who grew up in the 60s and 70s really lucked into the golden age of Rock.