Medicare for all?

[Rustic]

WTF? Lol
Democrats back Medicare for all in about half of House races they're contesting

Just another forced socialist entitlement program on millions of people that would not benefit from it at all and obviously cannot afford it...

While The mandate was not forced for a very long still bankrupted millions of American conservatives… This would be every bit as bad for conservatives....

You would think they would be touting Obamacare since they just passed it and the ink is not even dry on the Obamacare legislation.

Guess it sucks so bad they need to repeal and replace it.

Who knew?

The best way around all of this is for people to pay for their own shit, and that will force prices of medical treatment to be reasonable.
Right now insurance/Medicare/whatever other socialist entitlement program does not require costs to be reasonable.
They can charge whatever they want because they know someone else is paying for the shit...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

WTF? Lol
Democrats back Medicare for all in about half of House races they're contesting

Just another forced socialist entitlement program on millions of people that would not benefit from it at all and obviously cannot afford it...

While The mandate was not forced for a very long still bankrupted millions of American conservatives… This would be every bit as bad for conservatives....

There is no fucking way the mandate bankrupted anyone, it was a tiny amount


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Of course it bankrupted millions of people, Some areas there was only one provider available and they jacked up the prices because of that. And just the fact conservatives cannot afford to pay for Other peoples shit...

You are just making shit up now.


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[Rustic]

I don't believe the average person understands how medicare
works.

People don't understand that folks on medicare, if they want
doctor coverage and then want to ass prescription coverage
have to pay for those services.

Medicare, alone is just an excellent catastrophic event plan with
some other benefits. The daily stuff and medications you have
to pay for.

Obamacare was supposed to get the poor off of using the ER for
aches and pains and then not paying the Hospital.

Nothing changed with Obamacare. Yes, some were forced into
buying it. But they didn't go to regular doctors they continued to go
to ER's and then stiff the Hospital. They couldn't afford the co-pays.
Meanwhile Obamacare drove a number of businesses away from
providing Ins for their employees and/or reducing their hours under
the 30-hour minimum per week, that was the threshold for providing
Health Insurance.

The majority of the Country enjoys company paid benefits. The companies
are footing the bill will contributions from the employees.

Everybody is fooling themselves if they believe Medicare for all is
going to be any different. The poor will still flood the ER and then stiff the
Hospital.

That’s why everyone should to have to pay for their own shit, that would force prices to be reasonable because this jacking up the prices because someone else is paying for it is not working.... obviously.
No one should be forced into any socialist entitlement program whatsoever… All that is a bunch of communist shit there.

 

[Rustic]

WTF? Lol
Democrats back Medicare for all in about half of House races they're contesting

Just another forced socialist entitlement program on millions of people that would not benefit from it at all and obviously cannot afford it...

While The mandate was not forced for a very long still bankrupted millions of American conservatives… This would be every bit as bad for conservatives....

There is no fucking way the mandate bankrupted anyone, it was a tiny amount


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Of course it bankrupted millions of people, Some areas there was only one provider available and they jacked up the prices because of that. And just the fact conservatives cannot afford to pay for Other peoples shit...

You are just making shit up now.


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Lol
Any sort of mandated collective is fucked up when will you realize that?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Medicare for all would be a great boost to our economy.

 

[Votto]

Medicare for all would be a great boost to our economy.

It really helps places like Venezuela and North Korea.

Brilliant!

 

[DJT for Life]

I don't believe the average person understands how medicare
works.

People don't understand that folks on medicare, if they want
doctor coverage and then want to ass prescription coverage
have to pay for those services.

Medicare, alone is just an excellent catastrophic event plan with
some other benefits. The daily stuff and medications you have
to pay for.

Obamacare was supposed to get the poor off of using the ER for
aches and pains and then not paying the Hospital.

Nothing changed with Obamacare. Yes, some were forced into
buying it. But they didn't go to regular doctors they continued to go
to ER's and then stiff the Hospital. They couldn't afford the co-pays.
Meanwhile Obamacare drove a number of businesses away from
providing Ins for their employees and/or reducing their hours under
the 30-hour minimum per week, that was the threshold for providing
Health Insurance.

The majority of the Country enjoys company paid benefits. The companies
are footing the bill will contributions from the employees.

Everybody is fooling themselves if they believe Medicare for all is
going to be any different. The poor will still flood the ER and then stiff the
Hospital.

That’s why everyone should to have to pay for their own shit, that would force prices to be reasonable because this jacking up the prices because someone else is paying for it is not working.... obviously.
No one should be forced into any socialist entitlement program whatsoever… All that is a bunch of communist shit there.

Just like a college education. Once government took over student loans
tuition went off the charts. The colleges knew, that the Government
wouldn't trun down anybody, thus they jacked up the prices.

Now kids graduate from college with anywhere from 50K to 100K dollars
of debt. Good luck paying that off with interest. (Ironic that Govt took
over the loan business because 10% of that future interest was earmarked
to give to Obamacare). Not only did they fuck up Insurance forever, they
priced a college education off the charts.

 

[kyzr]

The Medicare / Medicare Advantage / Medicare Supplement system, with sliding prices by age and a strong preventive/diagnostic foundation, absolutely, you bet.

An already-functioning and popular private/public partnership that allows for dynamic free market competition and innovation, while taking a massive cost monkey off the backs of American employers.

If that's what they mean, I'm in. Of course, who knows that they mean, and they may have no idea, as usual.
.

Anything like Obama care/Medicare/single payer should be an opt in only… No one should be forced into that shit

Fuck that single-payer option. We paid into Medicare our entire working life, and you want to just give free healthcare to everyone? Who gets priority to see doctors and access to hospitals? The government "rations" the healthcare, and some people are more equal than others.

Besides Medicare will be bankrupt in 2026, so no one gets Medicare or Medicaid. Pay your own way if you want healthcare.

 

[debbiedowner]

The Medicare / Medicare Advantage / Medicare Supplement system, with sliding prices by age and a strong preventive/diagnostic foundation, absolutely, you bet.

An already-functioning and popular private/public partnership that allows for dynamic free market competition and innovation, while taking a massive cost monkey off the backs of American employers.

If that's what they mean, I'm in. Of course, who knows that they mean, and they may have no idea, as usual.
.

I've always agreed with you on this and still do. But give a person such as rustic an opt out option and no re entry for at least 10 years just in case they get sick and want to join at their leisure. I have been in this so long I have become callous, if someone don't want and they get sick too damn bad.

Lol
First of all an “opt out” is no good, It Has to be an opt in. That way the only people that want it will get it. And I have never bought insurance in my life, never will. I’ve been self employed for over 25 years, and out of debt for 20+ years. Me and my family don’t need a safety net of any sort.
It is not up to the collective to take care of me, I want no part of the fucking collective, fuck the collective...

That's because you can use the free reservation services.

Now that’s fucking funny, have you seen the Pineridge Indian reservation? it’s a fucking Third World shit hole… Beyond fucked up.
That’s the last place I would go for any help for me and my family…

You were always exempt if you were a tribal member.

Indian health coverage exemption
American Indians and Alaska Natives (AI/ANs) and other people eligible for services through the Indian Health Service, tribal programs, or urban Indian programs (like the spouse or child of an eligible Indian) don't have to pay the fee for not having health coverage. This is called having an Indian health coverage exemption.

No penalty for the 2019 plan year and later

• Starting with the 2019 plan year (for which you’ll file taxes in April 2020), the fee no longer applies for anybody, regardless of Indian status. (The fee is sometimes called the “Shared Responsibility Payment” or “mandate.”)
• If you don’t have coverage during 2019, you don’t need an exemption in order to avoid the penalty.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

WTF? Lol
Democrats back Medicare for all in about half of House races they're contesting

Just another forced socialist entitlement program on millions of people that would not benefit from it at all and obviously cannot afford it...

While The mandate was not forced for a very long still bankrupted millions of American conservatives… This would be every bit as bad for conservatives....

There is no fucking way the mandate bankrupted anyone, it was a tiny amount


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Of course it bankrupted millions of people, Some areas there was only one provider available and they jacked up the prices because of that. And just the fact conservatives cannot afford to pay for Other peoples shit...

You are just making shit up now.


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Lol
Any sort of mandated collective is fucked up when will you realize that?

What does that have to do with you making up stories?


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