Medicare changes on table for big, beautiful bill, says GOP senator

[Zincwarrior]

Looks like the Republicans in the Senate are looking at potential adjustments to Medicare as part of their version of the BBB. It will be interesting to see what they do and the reception in the House to it. ​

Medicare changes on table for big, beautiful bill, says GOP senator​

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5334831-republican-senators-consider-medicare-changes/

Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), a member of the Senate Finance Committee, on Thursday said GOP lawmakers are looking at changes to Medicare to root out waste, fraud and abuse.

Republican senators are taking a closer look at finding savings in Medicare to increase the total amount of deficit reduction in President Trump’s “big, beautiful bill,” Tillis said a day after the Finance panel met with Trump at the White House.

The Congressional Budget Office released a report this week estimating that the House-passed 1,116-page bill would add $2.4 trillion to the national debt over the next decade. Tillis says that overhauling systems at the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) could save a substantial amount of money without impacting Medicare benefits, which Trump has said should not be cut. He said that legislation sponsored by Sens. Bill Cassidy (R-N.C.) and Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) to reduce Medicare Advantage overpayments could be included into the bigger bill.

“Waste, fraud and abuse, you’ve got upcoding,” Tillis said. “Even in the plumbing of CMS — and by that I mean, procurement, matching up contracts, duplicate payments — there are a number of things that I think that we could find that never touch a beneficiary of Medicare or Medicaid that we’re going to go after.”

 

[pknopp]

Looks like the Republicans in the Senate are looking at potential adjustments to Medicare as part of their version of the BBB. It will be interesting to see what they do and the reception in the House to it. ​

Medicare changes on table for big, beautiful bill, says GOP senator​

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5334831-republican-senators-consider-medicare-changes/

Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), a member of the Senate Finance Committee, on Thursday said GOP lawmakers are looking at changes to Medicare to root out waste, fraud and abuse.

Republican senators are taking a closer look at finding savings in Medicare to increase the total amount of deficit reduction in President Trump’s “big, beautiful bill,” Tillis said a day after the Finance panel met with Trump at the White House.

The Congressional Budget Office released a report this week estimating that the House-passed 1,116-page bill would add $2.4 trillion to the national debt over the next decade. Tillis says that overhauling systems at the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) could save a substantial amount of money without impacting Medicare benefits, which Trump has said should not be cut. He said that legislation sponsored by Sens. Bill Cassidy (R-N.C.) and Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) to reduce Medicare Advantage overpayments could be included into the bigger bill.

“Waste, fraud and abuse, you’ve got upcoding,” Tillis said. “Even in the plumbing of CMS — and by that I mean, procurement, matching up contracts, duplicate payments — there are a number of things that I think that we could find that never touch a beneficiary of Medicare or Medicaid that we’re going to go after.”

I remember saying this is what I would do. Demand cuts but also hold agency heads responsible for not actually cutting benefits.

Seems I was slammed for that.

Its a good idea now?

 

[marvin martian]

“Waste, fraud and abuse, you’ve got upcoding,” Tillis said. “Even in the plumbing of CMS — and by that I mean, procurement, matching up contracts, duplicate payments — there are a number of things that I think that we could find that never touch a beneficiary of Medicare or Medicaid that we’re going to go after.”

Too bad they won't do that. They'll be ordered to cut their budgets, and they'll take it out of benefits, instead of rooting out the corruption that lines their pockets.

Then they'll blame Trump, and dumbasses like you will agree,

 

[Mac-7]

I remember saying this is what I would do. Demand cuts but also hold agency heads responsible for not actually cutting benefits.

Seems I was slammed for that.

Its a good idea now?

Its an idea most conservative repubs would support

And already did before you came along

 

[pknopp]

Its an idea most conservative repubs would support

And already did before you came along

You dismissed it when I said it is what i would do.

 

[Mac-7]

You dismissed it when I said it is what i would do.

I dont remember dismissing the idea

Only my confidence perhaps in you carrying through with it

 

[pknopp]

I dont remember dismissing the idea

Only my confidence perhaps in you carrying through with it

Oh boy.......you doubt I would carry it through.........lol.

 

[playtime]

Looks like the Republicans in the Senate are looking at potential adjustments to Medicare as part of their version of the BBB. It will be interesting to see what they do and the reception in the House to it. ​

Medicare changes on table for big, beautiful bill, says GOP senator​

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5334831-republican-senators-consider-medicare-changes/

Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), a member of the Senate Finance Committee, on Thursday said GOP lawmakers are looking at changes to Medicare to root out waste, fraud and abuse.

Republican senators are taking a closer look at finding savings in Medicare to increase the total amount of deficit reduction in President Trump’s “big, beautiful bill,” Tillis said a day after the Finance panel met with Trump at the White House.

The Congressional Budget Office released a report this week estimating that the House-passed 1,116-page bill would add $2.4 trillion to the national debt over the next decade. Tillis says that overhauling systems at the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) could save a substantial amount of money without impacting Medicare benefits, which Trump has said should not be cut. He said that legislation sponsored by Sens. Bill Cassidy (R-N.C.) and Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) to reduce Medicare Advantage overpayments could be included into the bigger bill.

“Waste, fraud and abuse, you’ve got upcoding,” Tillis said. “Even in the plumbing of CMS — and by that I mean, procurement, matching up contracts, duplicate payments — there are a number of things that I think that we could find that never touch a beneficiary of Medicare or Medicaid that we’re going to go after.”

rick scott will lead the way.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

If the GOP senators for Medicaid retention stay united, the House will have to give in, I think, on that issue.

 

[jwoodie]

The Congressional Budget Office released a report this week estimating that the House-passed 1,116-page bill would add $2.4 trillion to the national debt over the next decade.

CBO estimates are a joke, but even $2.4 trillion over 10 years is only $240 billion per year and less than 10% of the current national debt. If the US economy can grow enough to result in continuing balanced budgets, the nominal debt amount won't be that important.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

CBO estimates are a joke, but even $2.4 trillion over 10 years is only $240 billion per year and less than 10% of the current national debt. If the US economy can grow enough to result in continuing balanced budgets, the nominal debt amount won't be that important.

Your comment is more of a joke that being you guys only care about deficits when out of office.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Looks like the Republicans in the Senate are looking at potential adjustments to Medicare as part of their version of the BBB. It will be interesting to see what they do and the reception in the House to it. ​

Medicare changes on table for big, beautiful bill, says GOP senator​

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5334831-republican-senators-consider-medicare-changes/

Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), a member of the Senate Finance Committee, on Thursday said GOP lawmakers are looking at changes to Medicare to root out waste, fraud and abuse.

Republican senators are taking a closer look at finding savings in Medicare to increase the total amount of deficit reduction in President Trump’s “big, beautiful bill,” Tillis said a day after the Finance panel met with Trump at the White House.

The Congressional Budget Office released a report this week estimating that the House-passed 1,116-page bill would add $2.4 trillion to the national debt over the next decade. Tillis says that overhauling systems at the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) could save a substantial amount of money without impacting Medicare benefits, which Trump has said should not be cut. He said that legislation sponsored by Sens. Bill Cassidy (R-N.C.) and Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) to reduce Medicare Advantage overpayments could be included into the bigger bill.

“Waste, fraud and abuse, you’ve got upcoding,” Tillis said. “Even in the plumbing of CMS — and by that I mean, procurement, matching up contracts, duplicate payments — there are a number of things that I think that we could find that never touch a beneficiary of Medicare or Medicaid that we’re going to go after.”

I look forward to seeing the results.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

CBO estimates are a joke

and why is that?

Looks like the Republicans in the Senate are looking at potential adjustments to Medicare as part of their version of the BBB. It will be interesting to see what they do and the reception in the House to it. ​

Medicare changes on table for big, beautiful bill, says GOP senator​

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5334831-republican-senators-consider-medicare-changes/

Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), a member of the Senate Finance Committee, on Thursday said GOP lawmakers are looking at changes to Medicare to root out waste, fraud and abuse.

Republican senators are taking a closer look at finding savings in Medicare to increase the total amount of deficit reduction in President Trump’s “big, beautiful bill,” Tillis said a day after the Finance panel met with Trump at the White House.

The Congressional Budget Office released a report this week estimating that the House-passed 1,116-page bill would add $2.4 trillion to the national debt over the next decade. Tillis says that overhauling systems at the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) could save a substantial amount of money without impacting Medicare benefits, which Trump has said should not be cut. He said that legislation sponsored by Sens. Bill Cassidy (R-N.C.) and Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) to reduce Medicare Advantage overpayments could be included into the bigger bill.

“Waste, fraud and abuse, you’ve got upcoding,” Tillis said. “Even in the plumbing of CMS — and by that I mean, procurement, matching up contracts, duplicate payments — there are a number of things that I think that we could find that never touch a beneficiary of Medicare or Medicaid that we’re going to go after.”

I look forward to seeing the results

 

[Zincwarrior]

CBO estimates are a joke, but even $2.4 trillion over 10 years is only $240 billion per year and less than 10% of the current national debt. If the US economy can grow enough to result in continuing balanced budgets, the nominal debt amount won't be that important.

It never has. Why would it now?

 

[Delldude]

The fraud comes from charging for higher cost procedures than what was actually done.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

The fraud comes from charging for higher cost procedures than what was actually done.

Exactly.

Sens. Rick Scott, Mike Braun and J.D. Vance Demand Full ...​

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Sens. Rick Scott, Mike Braun and J.D. Vance Demand Full Audit of Medicare over $2.7 Billion in Medical Fraud. March 13, 2024. WASHINGTON, D.C.—Senators Rick Scott, Mike Braun and J.D. Vance sent a letter to Comptroller General Dodaro of the Government Accountability Office (GAO) demanding an audit of Medicare, following reports of the $2.7 billion Medicare catheter fraud ring and the estimated $60 billion lost to Medicare fraud a year.

Scott says Medicare fraud case was 'political persecution'​

Miami Herald
https://www.miamiherald.com › news › article288431251
May 9, 2024 — Scott is seeking to reframe a decades-old fraud case against Columbia/HCA, though he previously said he was responsible for mistakes.

But U.S. Sen. Rick Scott went out of his way, quite literally, on Thursday to attend former President Donald Trump’s hush-money trial in Manhattan and remind Americans that he once ran a healthcare company that was slapped with the largest Medicare fraud fine in U.S. history.

In a press conference outside the courthouse in Manhattan where Trump is on trial, Scott compared the criminal charges against Trump to the federal Medicare and Medicaid fraud investigation that resulted in $1.7 billion in fines against Columbia/HCA, the healthcare company that helped make Scott the United States’ wealthiest U.S. senator. Earlier, in an interview on “Fox & Friends,” Scott claimed that the charges against Trump — who’s accused of falsifying business records to hide a hush money payment to a porn star — amount to “political persecution.” He said that he too had been a victim of a politically influenced justice system more than two decades ago.

 

[playtime]

The fraud comes from charging for higher cost procedures than what was actually done.

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LARGEST HEALTH CARE FRAUD CASE IN U.S. HISTORY SETTLED
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WASHINGTON, D.C. - HCA Inc. (formerly known as Columbia/HCA and HCA - The Healthcare Company) has agreed to pay the United States $631 million in civil penalties and damages arising from false claims the government alleged it submitted to Medicare and other federal health programs, the Justice Department announced today.

This settlement marks the conclusion of the most comprehensive health care fraud investigation ever undertaken by the Justice Department, working with the Departments of Health and Human Services and Defense, the Office of Personnel Management and the states. The settlement announced today resolves HCA's civil liability for false claims resulting from a variety of allegedly unlawful practices, including cost report fraud and the payment of kickbacks to physicians.

Previously, on December 14, 2000, HCA subsidiaries pled guilty to substantial criminal conduct and paid more than $840 million in criminal fines, civil restitution and penalties. Combined with today's separate administrative settlement with the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), under which HCA will pay an additional $250 million to resolve overpayment claims arising from certain of its cost reporting practices, the government will have recovered $1.7 billion from HCA, by far the largest recovery ever reached by the government in a health care fraud investigation.
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WASHINGTON, D.C. - HCA Inc. (formerly known as Columbia/HCA and HCA - The Healthcare Company) has agreed to pay the United States $631 million in civil penalties and damages arising from false claims the government alleged it submitted to Medicare and other federal health programs, the Justice Department announced today.

This settlement marks the conclusion of the most comprehensive health care fraud investigation ever undertaken by the Justice Department, working with the Departments of Health and Human Services and Defense, the Office of Personnel Management and the states. The settlement announced today resolves HCA's civil liability for false claims resulting from a variety of allegedly unlawful practices, including cost report fraud and the payment of kickbacks to physicians.

Previously, on December 14, 2000, HCA subsidiaries pled guilty to substantial criminal conduct and paid more than $840 million in criminal fines, civil restitution and penalties. Combined with today's separate administrative settlement with the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), under which HCA will pay an additional $250 million to resolve overpayment claims arising from certain of its cost reporting practices, the government will have recovered $1.7 billion from HCA, by far the largest recovery ever reached by the government in a health care fraud investigation.
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Richard Lynn Scott is an American attorney, businessman, politician, and Navy veteran serving as the senior United States senator from the state of Florida, a seat he has held since 2019. A member of the Republican Party, he served two terms as the 45th governor of Florida from 2011 to 2019.

• Chair of the Senate Aging Committee Chair of the National Republican Senatorial Committee
• Committee positions
• Chair of the Senate Aging Committee

Commit massive fraud and get hit with paying some of It back.

Rob the 7/11 of $84 and go to jail.

Germany sent VW execs to prison over fraud.

 

[Delldude]

I beg your pardon?





Federal investigators in South Florida recently probed transactions linked to Jim Biden as part of a criminal investigation, according to two people familiar with the matter. The investigation remains open, according to one of them.
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But a previously unreported lawsuit alleges that the payments Jim Biden received were improper. In a complaint filed in Palm Beach County in 2022, investors in the Third Friday Total Return Fund allege that the money manager in charge of the fund looted millions of dollars from it by making sham loans to Americore, then diverted roughly $600,000 of the embezzled funds to Jim Biden.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/26/jim-biden-business-feds-investigation-00148909

DOJ: Jim Biden associate conspired with alleged mafia boss to defraud Medicare

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/18/doj-jim-biden-associate-mafia-boss-00147626

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

I beg your pardon?


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Federal investigators in South Florida recently probed transactions linked to Jim Biden as part of a criminal investigation, according to two people familiar with the matter. The investigation remains open, according to one of them.
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But a previously unreported lawsuit alleges that the payments Jim Biden received were improper. In a complaint filed in Palm Beach County in 2022, investors in the Third Friday Total Return Fund allege that the money manager in charge of the fund looted millions of dollars from it by making sham loans to Americore, then diverted roughly $600,000 of the embezzled funds to Jim Biden.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/26/jim-biden-business-feds-investigation-00148909

DOJ: Jim Biden associate conspired with alleged mafia boss to defraud Medicare

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/18/doj-jim-biden-associate-mafia-boss-00147626

Jim Biden is not named as a defendant in the Palm Beach suit, and it is not clear whether his activities are a focus in either criminal investigation.

The White House referred a request for comment to Jim Biden’s representatives. Through a spokesperson, Jim Biden’s lawyer, Paul Fishman, said “Jim Biden is not being investigated by federal law enforcement in Florida or Pennsylvania,” and that he was unaware of any ongoing or recent executive branch investigations of his client.

If a friend of a friend of a friend were guilty ALL republicans would be in jail.