Media: The Most Corrupt Organization In America

[PoliticalChic]

What has made the media so corrupt is that government has allowed them to take the simple freedom of the press to mean that the press are free to print any lie, distortion or misinformation with total impunity.

I actually listened to the two heads of NPR the other night whose organization is publicly funded and are supposed to by law fairly represent all sides of an issue argue that not being free to be totally biased and one-sided would be an intolerable infringement on their journalistic integrity.

The Constitution allows it.

 

[sealybobo]

You're right. I care about real corruption of my tax dollars being funneled in secret to Politicians kids, media, Hollywood all to join the DNC forever.

I care far far less any private business (still a lot of rules and transparency on them, Sorbanes-Oxley much?) succeeds in any way.

You have no corruption to show. You have foreign interest legally investing Billions in a legitimate US business? Nothing to see there. They don't want to lose money. They go to the best they can find. Or Hunters hedge fund lol! With Devon Archer who they locked up to hide the truth YOU DUMB OX.

It's weird you guys are going to allow Trump to not only accept a gift from Qatar but then KEEP IT after he leaves office. I wonder where the bomb is hidding? Just a tiny plastic thing not even noticable. Or it's hidden in the software.

And the most any Republican will say out loud is "Well, they better sweep that plane from front to back."

 

[sealybobo]

The Constitution allows it.

All this shows is that like the bible, the constitution can be interpreted however you want. Look at the Justice's opinions. All over the place. And their opinions may change if a Democrat is in charge.

Just like slave owners used the bible to justify it. Do you think the constitution could justify slavery? I mean without the 13th amendment to abolish it?

 

[leftwinger]

It's weird you guys are going to allow Trump to not only accept a gift from Qatar but then KEEP IT after he leaves office. I wonder where the bomb is hidding? Just a tiny plastic thing not even noticable. Or it's hidden in the software.

And the most any Republican will say out loud is "Well, they better sweep that plane from front to back."

OK. Now you change subjects. Translation: you can no longer support your previous BS. Sigh.

 

[PoliticalChic]

All this shows is that like the bible, the constitution can be interpreted however you want. Look at the Justice's opinions. All over the place. And their opinions may change if a Democrat is in charge.

Just like slave owners used the bible to justify it. Do you think the constitution could justify slavery? I mean without the 13th amendment to abolish it?

Textualism is a mode of legal interpretation that focuses on the plain meaning of the text of a legal document. Textualism usually emphasizes how the terms in the Constitution would be understood by people at the time they were ratified, as well as the context in which those terms appear.
-See Hon. Antonin Scalia, A Matter of Interpretation: Federal Courts and the Law 23–38 (Amy Gutmann ed., 1997) [hereinafter Scalia, A Matter of Interpretation].



1. Everything changed when Progressives took over law schools. They taught law students a) that there was no natural law, nor unalienable rights, and b) that the Constitution is altered by case law. This meant American lawyers interpreting the Constitution via caselaw rather than through studying the Constitution itself.

a. Roscoe Pound (1870-1964), Dean of Harvard Law School, instituted the "taught legal tradition." Pound firmly believed that the implementation of the principles of the taught legal tradition by wise common-law judges resulted in substantive change, which reflected changes in society. As the interpreters of the common law, judges had a special duty to consider the practical effects of their decisions and to strive to ensure that judging facilitated rather than hindered societal growth.” Roscoe Pound - definition of Roscoe Pound by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
What was evident in his first published book in law, common with Progressives, was his deep indebtedness to German modes of thinking.

b. Pound sought to adjust principles and doctrines of law to the realities of the human condition…. wanted to extract wisdom from German social science to apply to American law.: law must leave "conceptions" and open itself up to social realities of the modern world.”… the backwardness of law in meeting social ends,…”
roscoe pound and jurisprudence and 1903 and nebraska and harvard law school

c. He was perhaps the chief U.S. advocate of sociological jurisprudence, which holds that statutes and court decisions are affected by social conditions; his ideas apparently influenced the New Deal programs of Pres. Franklin D. Roosevelt. Roscoe Pound: Biography from Answers.com




2. Even before Roscoe Pound, Christopher Columbus Langdell , 1826-1906, reduced the importance of the Constitution in the law profession. In 1875 he became dean of Harvard law school. Together with J. B. Ames , who succeeded him as dean in 1895, he revised the curriculum of the school. Langdell is especially famed for the introduction of the "case method" in the study of law.

a. Langdell's theory was first adopted at Harvard, then at Columbia law school, and in time gained almost universal acceptance. Langdell prepared casebooks in the fields of contracts, equity, and sales. http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Ch..._Langdell.aspx

b. Before Langdell's tenure the study of law was a technical pursuit. Students were told what the law is. However, at Harvard Langdell applied the principles of pragmatism to the study of law. Now, as a result of this innovation, lawyers are taught the law through a dialectical process of inference called the case method. The case method has been the primary method of pedagogy at American law schools ever since. Students such as Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. would ensure that Langdell's innovation would not go unnoticed. Christopher Columbus Langdell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

c. It is based on the principle that rather than studying highly abstract summaries of legal rules (the technique still used in most countries), the best way to learn American law is to read the actual judicial opinions which become the law under the rule of stare decisis (due to its Anglo-American common law origin). Not the Constitution...which was eaten away in increments.




. The result is that lawyers today respect and honor the view of judges opinions, precedent, over the nominal ‘law of the land,’ the Constitution.

 

[leftwinger]

the constitution can be interpreted however you want. Look at the Justice's opinions

Thank killary. We do look at justice ruling from bench. "Living breathing" document one of your kkklan tries to sell. Uh...homey don't play? Up in here? In da crib? Yo...is that how you say it?

 

[toobfreak]

The Constitution allows it.

I don't think the Founders ever intended the Press to be free to lie and deceive the public in order to stump for advancing one political party over the other, only that they should be free of corrupting influence and limitation from the government to report on them.

Where was the constitution when Joe Biden was ordering the media not to print any negative stories about him?

MSN

Or when Obama went after James Rosen?

How Prosecutors Fought to Keep Rosen’s Warrant Secret

The Obama Administration fought to keep a search warrant for James Rosen’s private e-mail account secret.

www.newyorker.com

Why does the constitution only come into play to protect the media when the bad press is against a republican?

 

[PoliticalChic]

I don't think the Founders ever intended the Press to be free to lie and deceive the public in order to stump for advancing one political party over the other, only that they should be free of corrupting influence and limitation from the government to report on them.

Where was the constitution when Joe Biden was ordering the media not to print any negative stories about him?

MSN

Or when Obama went after James Rosen?

How Prosecutors Fought to Keep Rosen’s Warrant Secret

The Obama Administration fought to keep a search warrant for James Rosen’s private e-mail account secret.

www.newyorker.com

Why does the constitution only come into play to protect the media when the bad press is against a republican?

I believe you are correct.

 

[sealybobo]

I don't think the Founders ever intended the Press to be free to lie and deceive the public in order to stump for advancing one political party over the other, only that they should be free of corrupting influence and limitation from the government to report on them.

Where was the constitution when Joe Biden was ordering the media not to print any negative stories about him?

MSN

Or when Obama went after James Rosen?

How Prosecutors Fought to Keep Rosen’s Warrant Secret

The Obama Administration fought to keep a search warrant for James Rosen’s private e-mail account secret.

www.newyorker.com

Why does the constitution only come into play to protect the media when the bad press is against a republican?

We see Fox News got busted lying. And Trump and Elon defend lies on Twitter. You say you are defending "freedom of speech"

Republicans cherry pick from the constitution. For example everyone agrees allowing big money into our politics is a very bad idea. But Republicans perverted spin on the constitution and then the right of unions, so Republicans or rich people have been arguing for years that corporations, even though they aren't persons, should be allowed to interfere in our elections.

And then Citizens United was born.