Mass shootings UK v USA

[Captain Caveman]

This is the link for the UK -

List of mass shootings in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Not many. If you read the circumstances, the bulk are family related, between family members. I think there's about 3 school shootings in the UK's history.

Obviously I can't list America's, far too many -

Mass shootings in the United States - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

A 2023 report published in JAMA covering 2014 to 2022, found there had been 4,011 mass shootings in the US, most frequent around the southeastern U.S. and Illinois.

What's this about guns keeping Americans safe

 

[Crepitus]

This is the link for the UK -

List of mass shootings in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Not many. If you read the circumstances, the bulk are family related, between family members. I think there's about 3 school shootings in the UK's history.

Obviously I can't list America's, far too many -

Mass shootings in the United States - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

A 2023 report published in JAMA covering 2014 to 2022, found there had been 4,011 mass shootings in the US, most frequent around the southeastern U.S. and Illinois.

What's this about guns keeping Americans safe

What's the one thing every mass shooting has in common?

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

This is the link for the UK -

List of mass shootings in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Not many. If you read the circumstances, the bulk are family related, between family members. I think there's about 3 school shootings in the UK's history.

Obviously I can't list America's, far too many -

Mass shootings in the United States - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

A 2023 report published in JAMA covering 2014 to 2022, found there had been 4,011 mass shootings in the US, most frequent around the southeastern U.S. and Illinois.

What's this about guns keeping Americans safe

Actually there aren't many in America. Shootings listed as "school shootings" are misleading figures. In their inflated numbers the left adds in "gang-banger" shootings that happen in front of high schools, not actually mentally disturbed students that are in the schools shooting students and teachers.
As for the "gang-bangers," these are criminals that tend to be in their late teens to adulthood who have the firearms because they steal them. The solution to the gang shootings is to make examples of them in the justice system and not let them plea down their crimes. Mandatory maximums are what are needed. If found with a stolen firearm, add additional years to the penalty.

 

[Oddball]

You fools gave up, for all practical purposes, your civilian owned guns.

 

[Captain Caveman]

You fools gave up, for all practical purposes, your civilian owned guns.

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/list-of-cliches-used-by-yanks.1127830/

 

[Captain Caveman]

Actually there aren't many in America. Shootings listed as "school shootings" are misleading figures. In their inflated numbers the left adds in "gang-banger" shootings that happen in front of high schools, not actually mentally disturbed students that are in the schools shooting students and teachers.
As for the "gang-bangers," these are criminals that tend to be in their late teens to adulthood who have the firearms because they steal them. The solution to the gang shootings is to make examples of them in the justice system and not let them plea down their crimes. Mandatory maximums are what are needed. If found with a stolen firearm, add additional years to the penalty.

The most accepted definition of a mass shooting is a single incident in which four or more people are shot or killed. A mass shooting typically occurs in a single place and time but can include multiple locations in close proximity to each other.

What Counts as a Mass Shooting? Why So Much of America's Gun Violence Gets Overlooked

We must be conscious of our country's selective reaction to gun violence

time.com

Four or more is not bothered if it's gang, school, work, home etc.. related.

The metric used is four or more shot, whether injured and/or killed.

 

[Captain Caveman]

What's the one thing every mass shooting has in common?

Sorry, I can't answer any of your questions when you go quiet and don't answer mine. Once you go back to the relevent thread and answer, then we'll be back on track.

 

[Blaster]

Most shootings in the United States are gang related.

 

[Oddball]

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/list-of-cliches-used-by-yanks.1127830/

Fact is that you poor saps can't shoot back....Sucks to be you.

 

[Crepitus]

Sorry, I can't answer any of your questions when you go quiet and don't answer mine. Once you go back to the relevent thread and answer, then we'll be back on track.

Ok, since you don't seem to know I'll answer for you:

Guns.

There are far fewer of them in the UK than there are in the US.

Oddly, there are also much fewer mass shooting in the UK than there are in the US.

Weird, huh?

 

[Captain Caveman]

Fact is that you poor saps can't shoot back....Sucks to be you.

Gun owners can if they wanted to, as long as it's classed as reasonable force. But that legislation is too tricky for an American to absorb and understand, hence your stupid post.

For example, someone breaks into your house, you shout, they run off. Shouting was reasonable force.

Someone breaks into your house, they going to punch you, so you punch them. Punching was reasonable force

Someone breaks into your house, attacks you with a screwdriver, you fight with them, they get stabbed with the screwdriver and die. That was classed as reasonable force in the exact incident that took place in the news.

Someone breaks in brandishing a gun, they still go for you despite your warnings, so you shoot them. That is reasonable force.

In the US, every situation is BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG, MACHO STRUT STRUT, WHOOP, HIGH FIVE, WHOOP. Not one braincell in operation.

Sucks to be you.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Ok, since you don't seem to know I'll answer for you:

Guns.

There are far fewer of them in the UK than there are in the US.

Oddly, there are also much fewer mass shooting in the UK than there are in the US.

Weird, huh?

More guns in society, as proven by the US, makes for high gun deaths and anxiety. Also, children are in schools reminiscent to jails. It creates an obsessed dangerous culture.

Brits can apply for a shotgun and/or forearm, per the thread in the Europe section. But the law reduces the chances of idiots getting a gun. In the US, the 2ndA encourages any idiot to own and use a gun, hence the deplorable statistics and unhealthy gun culture.