Marie Yovanovitch: Exactly why Would Trump fire her?

[Lesh]

And Yovanovich was removed because she was not going to follow Rudy the Ghoul's lead in the extortion scheme he was trying to pull off for Trump

Conjecture....nothing more

Fair enough. Do YOU think she would have gone along with Rudy's illegal scheme?

I certainly "conjecture" that she wouldn't. Oh wait...she testified that she wouldn't.

 

[Lesh]

Is that the "Black Book" people have been referring to? Who was the Democrat informant digging up dirt on Trump in 2016? Was it part of this?

Your post is vague and typically confused.

It refers to the Black Ledger. That is a Ukrainian scandal involving corruption and Moscow related oligarchs (and of course Manafort) that was quashed in return for Javelin missiles (by Trump of course)

 

[OldLady]

Is that the "Black Book" people have been referring to? Who was the Democrat informant digging up dirt on Trump in 2016? Was it part of this?

Your post is vague and typically confused.

It refers to the Black Ledger. That is a Ukrainian scandal involving corruption and Moscow related oligarchs (and of course Manafort) that was quashed in return for Javelin missiles (by Trump of course)

Thanks, Lesh. When the right wingers have alluded to it in passing, I've asked them to tell me what they're talking about, but they never answer my questions, so you're right--I was feeling pretty vague and confused by it.
Judy Woodruff on PBS acknowledged a Democrat who was digging dirt on Trump in Ukraine in 2016 for the election, but she didn't name him/her and moved on fast. I was just trying to possibly put two and two together.

Anyway, thanks for the info. Now I know what to call it, I can Google it.

 

[healthmyths]

Watching Marie Yovanovitch testimony I'm troubled as to why Trump would want her terminated?
According to her she did nothing wrong. Didn't any conflicts with Trump's foreign agenda.
She was pursuing ways to help insure USA tax dollars spent wisely in Ukraine.
Sounds all honest and straight forward.

So what exactly did she do wrong that caused her termination?

So far according to the testimony we have heard it is because of a smear campaign started by a corrupt Ukraine prosecutor, and embraced by Giuliani and Sean Hannity.

Trump believed Giuliani and Hannity instead of the State Department and the Intelligence community

Fact: Ukraine’s prior regime went out of their way to support HRC and publicly decry Trump.

Fact: Masha stood idly by and did nothing about that.

Fact: Masha knew about Burisma and it didn’t bother her it seems that Biden got his kid a job there.

Fact: President has the right to replace Ambassadors.

Fact: Obama replaced many when he gained office and that was his right.

Fact: NOTHING you just said excuses slimy drug deal Trump was conducting in Ukraine.

The only thing Ukraine did in 2016 was release ledger of Manafort getting paid millions by the Russian-backed regime. Because guess what - an undeclared foreign agent running a presidential campaign is something American authorities and public should know.

What drug deal has Trump been involved in when you write: NOTHING you just said excuses slimy drug deal Trump was conducting in Ukraine.
Please provide the links that I can read the FACTS regarding the above.

 

[OldLady]

For anyone else that is as typically confused as I am, this is a pretty good article giving a summary of the "talking points" the RNC is using to battle the impeachment investigation.
The facts behind GOP claims about Ukraine and 2016 likely to surface this week

 

[Uncensored2008]

She had valid stuff to say. She outlined how the same men who were strong arming Zelensky were also targeting her in a pack of lies that finally led to her being recalled. It wasn't a pretty story. Why is Trump on the side of the corrupt oligarchs here?

Yeah, the way Trump had Don Jr. put on the board of Burisma to funnel kickbacks of $83,000 a month as a means of embezzling foreign aid.

Utterly shameful. Doncha think Comrade?

 

[Care4all]

Watching Marie Yovanovitch testimony I'm troubled as to why Trump would want her terminated?
According to her she did nothing wrong. Didn't any conflicts with Trump's foreign agenda.
She was pursuing ways to help insure USA tax dollars spent wisely in Ukraine.
Sounds all honest and straight forward.

So what exactly did she do wrong that caused her termination?

So far according to the testimony we have heard it is because of a smear campaign started by a corrupt Ukraine prosecutor, and embraced by Giuliani and Sean Hannity.

Trump believed Giuliani and Hannity instead of the State Department and the Intelligence community

Fact: Ukraine’s prior regime went out of their way to support HRC and publicly decry Trump.

Fact: Masha stood idly by and did nothing about that.

Fact: Masha knew about Burisma and it didn’t bother her it seems that Biden got his kid a job there.

Fact: President has the right to replace Ambassadors.

Fact: Obama replaced many when he gained office and that was his right.

Fact: NOTHING you just said excuses slimy drug deal Trump was conducting in Ukraine.

The only thing Ukraine did in 2016 was release ledger of Manafort getting paid millions by the Russian-backed regime. Because guess what - an undeclared foreign agent running a presidential campaign is something American authorities and public should know.

What drug deal has Trump been involved in when you write: NOTHING you just said excuses slimy drug deal Trump was conducting in Ukraine.
Please provide the links that I can read the FACTS regarding the above.

It's a figure of speech, that John Bolton used to describe what President Trump was doing with withholding the military aid and with Giuliani, Igor, and Lev.... in simple terms, Bolton thought it was illegal... mob like.

People using that term now, are just using Bolton's term for the Giuliani/Trump/Ukraine aid money deal for political dirt.

 

[progressive hunter]

its more about her corruption and deep state activities through the state depts civil society2.0 program,,,not to mention her part in the 2016 collusion between the DNC and former ukraine officials,,,

Her corruption?

You know the way you could really try to prove any of those things?

Get Pompeo up on the witness stand and testify to his knowledge of those things.

Get Rudolf Giuliani up on the witness stand and testify to his knowledge of those things.

Oh hell- if Sean Hannity has any actual first hand knowledge of any corruption by Ambassador Yovanovitch- get him up there on the stand.

If Republicans have any actual evidence to support your claims- why aren't they calling as witnesses those people?

But instead- like your Orange Messiah- you just smear and libel a person who has supported the United States for decades.

Because that is what you Trump Tweenkies do.

I think in time that all would happen,,its just dems were hell bent on cover up so went with impeachment instead to muddy the waters,,

Nothing is preventing the Republicans from calling Giuliani or Pompeo as witnesses.

What are they afraid that they will say?

the dems said they would stop any GOP witness's

Now that's some weak watery Lame Sauce.

If the GOP want Giuliani or Pompeo to testifiy, I GUARANTEE, the Dems will drop everything and get those two on the stand. Pronto.

they have others on their list they want first,,,

 

[Uncensored2008]

So after 2 days we have three servants of America and the President stating that they heard some guys talk about what some other guys said and a dear lady who feels her perfectly permitted dismissal did not cater to her emotions sufficiently
And for this, the Nation has to go thru a load of partisan crap.

She had valid stuff to say. She outlined how the same men who were strong arming Zelensky were also targeting her in a pack of lies that finally led to her being recalled. It wasn't a pretty story. Why is Trump on the side of the corrupt oligarchs here?

Please tell me what this was...
"I (Biden) looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours.
If the prosecutor is not fired, (QUID...) you’re not getting the money. (QUO) Well, son of a *****. (Laughter.) He got fired.
And they put in place someone who was solid at the time...(someone who wouldn't investigate Burisma, Biden's son's employer.)..
FLASHBACK, 2018: Joe Biden Brags At CFR Meeting About Withholding Aid To Ukraine To Force Firing Of Prosecutor

Quid Pro Joe Biden said "I've got a billion dollars of US Taxpayer money. You don't get it if I don't get SERIOUS kickbacks. And SON OF A *****, they started giving my son $83,000 a month."

 

[progressive hunter]

Watching Marie Yovanovitch testimony I'm troubled as to why Trump would want her terminated?
According to her she did nothing wrong. Didn't any conflicts with Trump's foreign agenda.
She was pursuing ways to help insure USA tax dollars spent wisely in Ukraine.
Sounds all honest and straight forward.

So what exactly did she do wrong that caused her termination?

So far according to the testimony we have heard it is because of a smear campaign started by a corrupt Ukraine prosecutor, and embraced by Giuliani and Sean Hannity.

Trump believed Giuliani and Hannity instead of the State Department and the Intelligence community

Fact: Ukraine’s prior regime went out of their way to support HRC and publicly decry Trump.

Fact: Masha stood idly by and did nothing about that.

Fact: Masha knew about Burisma and it didn’t bother her it seems that Biden got his kid a job there.

Fact: President has the right to replace Ambassadors.

Fact: Obama replaced many when he gained office and that was his right.

Fact: NOTHING you just said excuses slimy drug deal Trump was conducting in Ukraine.

The only thing Ukraine did in 2016 was release ledger of Manafort getting paid millions by the Russian-backed regime. Because guess what - an undeclared foreign agent running a presidential campaign is something American authorities and public should know.

I see youre coming from a place of ignorance,,,

 

[Care4all]

President Trump is not concerned with corruption in any country, if he was then he would not be buddy buddy with the corrupt murdering Saudi Prince, or with Erdogan, or with Putin or with Kim Jong Un etc etc etc and do nothing about or say nothing about the corrupt atrocities of theirs... imo....

Or with ALL OF THE CORRUPTION that has taken place with his own administration.... how many have had to quit after being caught in their own corruption, a dozen or so?

And with Giuliani getting paid $500 MILLION by Igor and Lev.... what the heck for? Then the President sends these three to dig up corruption dirt? That's laughable! Seriously!!!

 

[Uncensored2008]

She was so "intimidated" she continued to testify in front of congress for 5 and a half hours after Trumps tweet was read to her.

GTFO.

Was she reading tweets while testifying?

 

[Uncensored2008]

So after 2 days we have three servants of America and the President stating that they heard some guys talk about what some other guys said and a dear lady who feels her perfectly permitted dismissal did not cater to her emotions sufficiently
And for this, the Nation has to go thru a load of partisan crap.

She had valid stuff to say. She outlined how the same men who were strong arming Zelensky were also targeting her in a pack of lies that finally led to her being recalled. It wasn't a pretty story. Why is Trump on the side of the corrupt oligarchs here?

Why are you on the side of the corrupt democrats?

Maybe she is embezzling foreign aid too? Seems the entire state department is...

 

[Care4all]

She had valid stuff to say. She outlined how the same men who were strong arming Zelensky were also targeting her in a pack of lies that finally led to her being recalled. It wasn't a pretty story. Why is Trump on the side of the corrupt oligarchs here?

Yeah, the way Trump had Don Jr. put on the board of Burisma to funnel kickbacks of $83,000 a month as a means of embezzling foreign aid.

Utterly shameful. Doncha think Comrade?

A mere pittance to the $500 MILLION Giuliani was paid by these 2 goons, Igor and Lev...the ones just arrested, that he was digging up dirt on the Bidens in the Ukraine with.... What's THAT all about?

 

[Uncensored2008]

*** Record Financial Market.
True you are 100% accurate. But I’m afraid I have a bad news for you.

Impeachment is a very serious matter.

Means the market doesn’t care Trump’s fate. If he is gone the economy and booming market will remain the same.

Aw bullshit, char.

If Trump were to be impeached and removed, or if he abdicated and a phony like Pocahontas took control, the taxes that she has promised to impose are tremendous and would crush the markets. Traders know this, and they factor the chances into the price. The fact that the market is hitting new heights tells me that they don't think there is much of a chance at all that the coup will succeed.

A lot of old people are on fixed incomes and are struggling by with fixed income of 40k or 50k and rely on their investments in the market. An end to the Trump Presidency means they will be heading to the Poor Houses, forced even to sell their homes and move into group quarters. I spoke to my mom, who is 89. If the markets sink, she can't go out and earn more money. People like Pocahontas think she she should just "die quickly". The one thing that makes her the most nervous is being forced into an apartment in a crowded hell hole

Understand. I monitor the market very ( + manufacturing orders) closely and so are my friends that invested heavily in stock. I know several people like your mom. Lord no I don’t want the market to sink.

As you already knew current market status (booming economy) doesn’t last forever with or without Trump. But Trade Wars is adding a fuel to that.

From what we saw yesterday’s market it didn’t matter what is Trump status. We were expecting a small negative impact but it didn’t matter.

I also monitor the Trade Wars regularly. Every time there’s a meeting or discussion about trade wars the market reacted positively.

Most of your fellow Communists DO want the market to collapse and for America to go into a recession or depression. The strong economy not only helps Trump, but makes people less willing to adopt socialism.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Watching Marie Yovanovitch testimony I'm troubled as to why Trump would want her terminated?
According to her she did nothing wrong. Didn't any conflicts with Trump's foreign agenda.
She was pursuing ways to help insure USA tax dollars spent wisely in Ukraine.
Sounds all honest and straight forward.

So what exactly did she do wrong that caused her termination?

Comrade, didn't she testify that she knew all about the kickback scheme run through Burisma and was Coached by Obama on how to cover it up?

She's corrupt, which is a feature of democrats and has no place with Republicans.

You don’t have any evidence or if that either.

What?

Pay attention Comrade.

Read: Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch’s Prepared Deposition Statement

 

[Uncensored2008]

Then you have Guilliani doing the investigation of this conspiracy crap working with corrupted Ukrainian people like Shokin.

Why is Guilliani a Trump personal lawyer doing the investigation?

President Trump is interested in finding out and documenting Ukrainian collusion into the 2016 election. He wants to prevent the same thing from happening in the future.

The previous Ukrainian President supported Hillary Clinton and is said to have tried to rig the 2016 US election for her.

Mr. Giuliani is well trusted by President Trump to carry out his policies. Yesterday's testimony from Ambassador Yovanovitch where she turned against her previous boss, even though she had no proof of Trump wrongdoing- shows the President Trump was smart for bypassing the official Deep State officials.

Wrong.

Trump doesn’t have any evidence of that except from conspiracy theory crap.

Why not use the proper channels that will do the investigation? A henchmen Guilliani doing the investigation?
This is like.... Why not use Jeffrey Dahmer do the investigation?

Why bribe Zelensky?
Why Biden a political rival?

I thought you Communists demanded we get to the bottom of 2016 election meddling?

Oh, but since it was YOU meddling in the election, suddenly not only do we NOT want to investigate, investigating is impeachable....

You corrupt scum.

 

[OldLady]

She had valid stuff to say. She outlined how the same men who were strong arming Zelensky were also targeting her in a pack of lies that finally led to her being recalled. It wasn't a pretty story. Why is Trump on the side of the corrupt oligarchs here?

Yeah, the way Trump had Don Jr. put on the board of Burisma to funnel kickbacks of $83,000 a month as a means of embezzling foreign aid.

Utterly shameful. Doncha think Comrade?

Embezzled aid to where?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Her straight arrow aproach and disinterest in conducting Trump's "drug deals" got her terminated.

As she testified, she would strongly object using milltary aid to pressure Ukraine to conduct investigations for Turmp's political purposes.

Drug deals, Comrade?

Ah, you're lying as Schitt did when he "read" the fake transcript as he set up this coup.

You democrats are scum with no integrity or honor, most of what you say are flat out lies - like this.

I get it though, Trump endangers the embezzlement of foreign aid, and just about 100% of the state department is on the take. Hillary's legacy.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I watched the whole proceeding yesterday. The republicans looked like scheming rats, whereas the ex ambassador and schiff were a class act. In the meantime this piece of shit in the white house was badmouthing her via twitter or whatever that thing is that he communicates his ignorance and stupidity with.

Did you notice that the Yovanovitch broad admitted that President Trump committed no crimes whatsoever?

HUH?

No she didn't, what the heck?

So Comrade, what crime did she say Detective Serpico committed? Oh, I mean Donald Trump - I get those who expose corruption confused as they are crucified.