Many Dems say ‘walls don’t work’, they believe the border can’t be totally secure. Will/do they support an aggressive mass deportation effort instead?

[BrokeLoser]

lol so you don’t know how the economy works? Less GDP and fewer jobs. This shouldn’t have to be explained to you.

Hold on…so 50 million leave and there are less jobs?
Reconcile that for us dummies please?
Also, tell us how you and I are affected by GDP in real time.

 

[Billy000]

How do you keep people out, when you are promising them healthcare , jobs, a place to live if they just show up at the border? No wall , anyone can walk across carrying drugs or if they turn themselves in and now be released into the interior of the U.S. how is any of that a deterent.

You say THiis DOESNT mean we should let them in.... yet the Democrat words and policies invite them in. Its insane to let unvetted people come in. Cartels can provide fake ID's for their operatives as well. We have let them set up shop even more now inside the U.S.

It is almost impossible now to deport Immigrants now. The problem is, it would most likely be the more law abiding ones to get deported while the criminal gang members who dont work would remain.
Damage is done. The thing to do is turn people away at the border so they stop coming. Then rethink the whole Vetting process.

What jobs are the government promising? You do know it’s private businesses that give them jobs right? No idea what this health insurance thing you’re talking about. They don’t qualify for Medicare or Medicaid. Section 8 is literally the only federal benefits they get.

90% of all drugs come over legal points of entry on the border. Happens like clockwork under Trump.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Nope. That would wreck the economy. Like it or not, these people are integrated into the economy as consumer spenders like everyone else. The economy would shrink. This doesn’t mean we should let more in. It just means mass deportation is a bad idea.

Imagine if you always followed that frame work?
“Lets not arrest criminals that are good for our economy.”
(everyone sane knows illegals are nothing but bad for our economy)

 

[Billy000]

Hold on…so 50 million leave and there are less jobs?
Reconcile that for us dummies please?
Also, tell us how you and I are affected by GDP in real time.

Moron the jobs illegals get are not legitimate jobs. Illegals have their own under the table economy. They have jobs separate from citizens. This isn’t hard to figure out considering legitimate jobs require documentation like birth certificates and SS cards. Derp!

In real time? What the **** is that even supposed to mean? Lol

 

[BrokeLoser]

Moron the jobs illegals get are not legitimate jobs. Illegals have their own under the table economy. They have jobs separate from citizens. This isn’t hard to figure out considering legitimate jobs require documentation like birth certificates and SS cards. Derp!

In real time? What the **** is that even supposed to mean? Lol

Now you’re all confused…if the cost of birth is $20k per child and the cost to put a child in a public school is $15k per year and we’re giving the cockroaches all the free healthcare they can use, rent subsidies, EBT, if we bear the costs to prosecute and incarcerate for maiming, raping and murdering our daughters…etc etc…..HOW AND THE **** are they helping us and our economics?
Because they buy a shit-ton of Modelo, Takis and Carne Asada with their EBT cards?
Are you saying their underground tax free economy spills over into ours?

 

[Billy000]

Now you’re all confused…if the cost of birth is $20k per child and the cost to put a child in a public school is $15k per year and we’re giving the cockroaches all the free healthcare they can use, rent subsidies, EBT, if we bear the costs to prosecute and incarcerate for maiming, raping and murdering our daughters…etc etc…..HOW AND THE **** are they helping us and our economics?
Because they buy a shit-ton of Modelo, Takis and Carne Asada with their EBT cards?
Are you saying their underground tax free economy spills over into ours?

Where do you morons get these welfare figures? What programs give them all the healthcare they want? They sure as hell don’t qualify for SNAP. Does it bother you don’t know actually know anything about this subject?!

Also, the crime rate among illegals is not disproportionately higher than citizens. Sorry to break it to you lol

 

[flewism]

There is a whole cottage industry supplying birth certificates and SS cards to illegal aliens and nobody is checking. Wall only don't work on the US borders Canada has way tougher immigration laws than us.
These are the jobs they are taking.
"Almost half of the Black US workforce is in lower-paying, frontline-service industries. March 2, 2021In the United States, 45 percent of Black private-sector employees work in industries—healthcare, retail, and accommodation and food service—that have both large frontline-service presence and high shares of workers earning less than $30,000 annually."

Must less caring, housing and feeding them on the taxpayer's dime.

Almost half of the Black US workforce is in lower-paying, frontline-service industries

In the United States, 45 percent of Black private-sector employees work in industries—healthcare, retail, and accommodation and food service—that have both large frontline-service presence and high shares of workers earning less than $30,000 annually.

www.mckinsey.com

 

[Unkotare]

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Knuckle dragging bigots built the nation you purple hair people are destroying.

More scary hair!

 

[flewism]

Where do you morons get these welfare figures? What programs give them all the healthcare they want? They sure as hell don’t qualify for SNAP. Does it bother you don’t know actually know anything about this subject?!

Also, the crime rate among illegals is not disproportionately higher than citizens. Sorry to break it to you lol

Then why is NYC and Texas spending so much money on them and petitioning the Federal government for reimbursement.

In Michigan.

2. Migrant Services Allocations: While the budget doesn’t specifically break down expenditures solely for migrant care, there are some relevant points:

• Flexible Funding for Migrant Services: The state budget allocates $2.4 billion for migrant services over fiscal years 2025 This funding is designed to address the needs of migrants and asylum seekers within Michigan.
• City-Level Impact: In addition to the state budget, cities like Detroit have also been grappling with the costs of providing shelter and support to asylum seekers. For instance, in August 2023, Detroit updated its cost estimates, adding $2.33 billion in expected costs for the current fiscal year (FY24) and $4.1 billion for the next fiscal year (FY25)3.

 

[WEATHER53]

That can’t be true…Billy said walls don’t work?

Walls keep ocean water out
They also keep humans from gaining access

 

[BrokeLoser]

More scary hair!

All decent people know scary hair is a precursor to a society comprised of mutants…Be scared.

 

[flewism]

More.

Michigan’s 2024 budget includes a variety of services aimed at supporting migrants. Here are some of the key services covered:

1. Healthcare Services:
   • Medicaid and Behavioral Health Services: These services include medical and behavioral health support for migrants, ensuring they have access to necessary healthcare1.
   • Community-Based Supports: Programs like MI Choice, MI Health Link, and Home Help provide community-based care and support2.
2. Housing and Shelter:
   • Non-Congregate Shelters: Funding is allocated for non-congregate shelters to provide safe and private living spaces for migrants3.
   • Homeless Shelter Data and Capacity Expansion: Efforts to expand the capacity of shelters and improve data collection on homeless populations, including migrants3.
     1. Child and Family Services:
        • Foster Care and Adoption: Support for foster care and adoption services, ensuring that migrant children receive proper care and placement4.
        • Child Welfare Housing Assistance: Assistance for housing needs specific to child welfare cases involving migrant families3.
     2. Legal and Social Services:
        • Migrant and Refugee Programs: These programs provide legal assistance, social services, and support for integration into the community4.
        • Domestic Violence Prevention: Services aimed at preventing and addressing domestic violence within migrant communities4.
     3. Education and Employment:
        • Educational Support: Programs to help migrant children and adults access educational opportunities and resources4.
        • Employment Assistance: Services to help migrants find employment and integrate into the workforce

 

[IDIOCRACY]

If Kamala is elected, she can and will pretend otherwise all day, but she's most definitely part of the scheme under California's system, and that is to replace the population foreigners. I promise you, it's happened now in the shithole of California, negative population growth despite their safe haven, because the middle class has had enough of that State. Eventually the State will be bankrolled by Asians.

Kamala is a quasi-Communist, a new age Communist, and speaks Marxism and protest.

 

[WEATHER53]

More.

Michigan’s 2024 budget includes a variety of services aimed at supporting migrants. Here are some of the key services covered:

1. Healthcare Services:
   • Medicaid and Behavioral Health Services: These services include medical and behavioral health support for migrants, ensuring they have access to necessary healthcare1.
   • Community-Based Supports: Programs like MI Choice, MI Health Link, and Home Help provide community-based care and support2.
2. Housing and Shelter:
   • Non-Congregate Shelters: Funding is allocated for non-congregate shelters to provide safe and private living spaces for migrants3.
   • Homeless Shelter Data and Capacity Expansion: Efforts to expand the capacity of shelters and improve data collection on homeless populations, including migrants3.
     1. Child and Family Services:
        • Foster Care and Adoption: Support for foster care and adoption services, ensuring that migrant children receive proper care and placement4.
        • Child Welfare Housing Assistance: Assistance for housing needs specific to child welfare cases involving migrant families3.
     2. Legal and Social Services:
        • Migrant and Refugee Programs: These programs provide legal assistance, social services, and support for integration into the community4.
        • Domestic Violence Prevention: Services aimed at preventing and addressing domestic violence within migrant communities4.
     3. Education and Employment:
        • Educational Support: Programs to help migrant children and adults access educational opportunities and resources4.
        • Employment Assistance: Services to help migrants find employment and integrate into the workforce

Except they are Not Migrants
Its like calling someone a self sufficient helper when they help themselves to my stuff.

 

[flewism]

Except they are Not Migrants
Its like calling someone a self sufficient helper when they help themselves to my stuff.

California close to approving $150K loans for illegal immigrants to help purchase homes​

MSN

Who is going to fund it? You think they are counting on Kamala winning in November?

Let's give 150K to all the working poor citizens to purchase homes.

Democrats suck, more vote purchasing. When will I get reimbursed for my children's college education??

Once they are homeowners voting will be right around the corner.

 

[WEATHER53]

If illegals actually become legal migrants then they are on different footing. Otherwise the law breakers deserve and merit nothing

 

[flewism]

If illegals actually become legal migrants then they are on different footing. Otherwise the law breakers deserve and merit nothing

The goal of the Democratic party.

"Oregon Plan Offers $30,000 to Help Migrants Buy Homes.​

" A taxpayer funded housing support group in Portland, Oregon, has been offering grants of $30,000 to first-time buyers in the state, but with only those who are not U.S. citizens eligible to apply.

The money was offered by the Hacienda Community Development Corporation (HCDC) as part of its "Camino a Casa," which is advertised as being "only for people who are not American citizens." The move has sparked an angry backlash, with one Oregon Republican lawmaker branding it "state-sponsored discrimination."

The goal of the left is to blur the line between legal and illegal migrants, just ask Kamala.

"In Oregon public bodies and law enforcement agencies can generally not inquire about immigration status or be involved in federal immigration enforcement efforts. Services, benefits, or other opportunities cannot be denied to any person who is in custody based on immigration status. public bodies and law enforcement agencies can generally not inquire about immigration status or be involved in federal immigration enforcement efforts. Services, benefits, or other opportunities cannot be denied to any person who is in custody based on immigration status. "

 

[WEATHER53]

The goal of the Democratic party.

"Oregon Plan Offers $30,000 to Help Migrants Buy Homes.​

" A taxpayer funded housing support group in Portland, Oregon, has been offering grants of $30,000 to first-time buyers in the state, but with only those who are not U.S. citizens eligible to apply.

The money was offered by the Hacienda Community Development Corporation (HCDC) as part of its "Camino a Casa," which is advertised as being "only for people who are not American citizens." The move has sparked an angry backlash, with one Oregon Republican lawmaker branding it "state-sponsored discrimination."

The goal of the left is to blur the line between legal and illegal migrants, just ask Kamala.

"In Oregon public bodies and law enforcement agencies can generally not inquire about immigration status or be involved in federal immigration enforcement efforts. Services, benefits, or other opportunities cannot be denied to any person who is in custody based on immigration status. public bodies and law enforcement agencies can generally not inquire about immigration status or be involved in federal immigration enforcement efforts. Services, benefits, or other opportunities cannot be denied to any person who is in custody based on immigration status. "

Oregon along with others try to legitimize their law breaking by providing pity parties as defense

 

[boevans]

Trump will be defeated very easily, in the end.

 

[otto105]

As a way to send a message that we are no longer tolerating the passive invasion that can’t be stopped with a wall or security?
I ask because it seems many pretend there is no solution because they don’t want a solution.

The Democratic President Biden negotiated a border bill with conservative Senator Lankford and who killed the bill.