Manchurian Candidate

[whitehall]

Sinatra was great in the original movie but why in the world did they pick Brit born Laurence Harvey as a grunt Korean Soldier? The convoluted plot focused on the conduct of a loudmouth anti-Communist senator who was actually a tool of the communist propaganda regime.

 

[g5000]

Sinatra was great in the original movie but why in the world did they pick Brit born Laurence Harvey as a grunt Korean Soldier? The convoluted plot focused on the conduct of a loudmouth anti-Communist senator who was actually a tool of the communist propaganda regime.

What the hell are you talking about?

Harvey played Raymond Shaw, not a Korean soldier.

And he was born in Lithuania, not the UK.

 

[g5000]

Interesting fact. Angela Lansbury was only three years older than Laurence Harvey when she played his mother in The Manchurian Candidate.

 

[whitehall]

What the hell are you talking about?

Harvey played Raymond Shaw, not a Korean soldier.

And he was born in Lithuania, not the UK.

My bad. I should have added that the Shaw character was a U.S. Army Korean war soldier not a Korean. Lithuania or U.K., he had an awkward British accent that didn't resonate as a U.S. Sergeant.

 

[g5000]

My bad. I should have added that the Shaw character was a U.S. Army Korean war soldier not a Korean. Lithuania or U.K., he had an awkward British accent that didn't resonate as a U.S. Sergeant.

Method acting wasn't yet a thing back then.

Another fun thing to watch in that movie is the martial arts fighting compared to the kind you see in action movies these days.

Frank Sinatra, kung-fu master!

 

[whitehall]

Method acting wasn't yet a thing back then.

Another fun thing to watch in that movie is the martial arts fighting compared to the kind you see in action movies these days.

Frank Sinatra, kung-fu master!

The Sinatra character got his ass kicked by the Korean character but Shaw was a typical U.S. Soldier. It seems that method acting was the thing back then.

 

[whitehall]

Hollywood managed to portray the Communist menace as the enemy but at the same time a "republican" senator was the heart of the conspiracy. As preposterous as the plot was it still resonates as a classic suspense movie.

 

[Flopper]

Sinatra was great in the original movie but why in the world did they pick Brit born Laurence Harvey as a grunt Korean Soldier? The convoluted plot focused on the conduct of a loudmouth anti-Communist senator who was actually a tool of the communist propaganda regime.

I really enjoyed the motive. I saw it in Washington D.C. the night before I had an interview with the NSA. I though Laurence Harvey was an excellent choice for the roll.

 

[whitehall]

I really enjoyed the motive. I saw it in Washington D.C. the night before I had an interview with the NSA. I though Laurence Harvey was an excellent choice for the roll.

There were a hundred actors without a Brit (foreign) accent. Harvey was the worse choice. My guess is that he was popular at the time and Hollywood didn't give a damn about the authenticity of a Army Sergeant in the Korean War.

 

[Roy C]

I really enjoyed the motive. I saw it in Washington D.C. the night before I had an interview with the NSA. I though Laurence Harvey was an excellent choice for the roll.

I think butter is a better choice for a roll.

 

[Concerned American]

I really enjoyed the motive. I saw it in Washington D.C. the night before I had an interview with the NSA. I though Laurence Harvey was an excellent choice for the roll.

role?

 

[whitehall]

The remake wasn't so good. I like Denzel but the politics were so convoluted that the movie didn't make sense.

 

[g5000]

Hollywood managed to portray the Communist menace as the enemy but at the same time a "republican" senator was the heart of the conspiracy. As preposterous as the plot was it still resonates as a classic suspense movie.

The novel was written in the aftermath of the McCarthy era. Thus the Republican senator at the center of the plot.

 

[g5000]

The Sinatra character got his ass kicked by the Korean character but Shaw was a typical U.S. Soldier. It seems that method acting was the thing back then.

You obviously don't know what method acting is.

Sinatra was not a method actor.

Marlon Brando was.

 

[g5000]

The remake wasn't so good. I like Denzel but the politics were so convoluted that the movie didn't make sense.

Most remakes suck. There are a few exceptions. But the vast majority suck.

 

[whitehall]

The novel was written in the aftermath of the McCarthy era. Thus the Republican senator at the center of the plot.

My point. Democrats were in charge and McCarthy was just a loudmouth republican while HUAC was a Truman concept. Somehow Hollywood managed to produce an accurate representation of the Communist menace while portraying republicans as agents of the conspiracy. It was a brilliant piece of propaganda worthy of the KGB at the time and still endures to this day.

 

[Flopper]

My point. Democrats were in charge and McCarthy was just a loudmouth republican while HUAC was a Truman concept. Somehow Hollywood managed to produce an accurate representation of the Communist menace while portraying republicans as agents of the conspiracy. It was a brilliant piece of propaganda worthy of the KGB at the time and still endures to this day.

The anti-communist investigations of the House Committee which started in the 1940's are often associated with McCarthyism, although Joseph McCarthy himself (as a U.S. Senator) had no direct involvement with the House committee

Actually McCarthy came to power in the 1953 when he became Chairmen of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Senate Government Operations Committee, the year Eisenhower became president. However, his power was short lived as he was censured by Senate in 1954. He died in 1957, 4yrs before Kennedy took office. Joseph McCarthy was a life long republican and a champion of the party's far right.

The irony of the McCarthy phenomenon, as recent studies of American communism have made abundantly clear, is that Joe McCarthy burst into national prominence with charges about spies and fifth columnists at the very moment when the threat of internal subversion in the executive branch was on the wane, if not entirely extinguished. It would take President, Dwight Eisenhower, to convince the country of this fact. And as we have seen, given McCarthy's continued insistence that "reds," "pinks," and fellow travelers were compromising American national security, it was no simple task. Today, many far right republicans still see McCarty as a hero.

 

[whitehall]

The anti-communist investigations of the House Committee which started in the 1940's are often associated with McCarthyism, although Joseph McCarthy himself (as a U.S. Senator) had no direct involvement with the House committee

Actually McCarthy came to power in the 1953 when he became Chairmen of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Senate Government Operations Committee, the year Eisenhower became president. However, his power was short lived as he was censured by Senate in 1954. He died in 1957, 4yrs before Kennedy took office. Joseph McCarthy was a life long republican and a champion of the party's far right.

The irony of the McCarthy phenomenon, as recent studies of American communism have made abundantly clear, is that Joe McCarthy burst into national prominence with charges about spies and fifth columnists at the very moment when the threat of internal subversion in the executive branch was on the wane, if not entirely extinguished. It would take President, Dwight Eisenhower, to convince the country of this fact. And as we have seen, given McCarthy's continued insistence that "reds," "pinks," and fellow travelers were compromising American national security, it was no simple task. Today, many far right republicans still see McCarty as a hero.

HUAC is associated with McCarthy only because the media said so. Harry Truman was the

The anti-communist investigations of the House Committee which started in the 1940's are often associated with McCarthyism, although Joseph McCarthy himself (as a U.S. Senator) had no direct involvement with the House committee

Actually McCarthy came to power in the 1953 when he became Chairmen of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Senate Government Operations Committee, the year Eisenhower became president. However, his power was short lived as he was censured by Senate in 1954. He died in 1957, 4yrs before Kennedy took office. Joseph McCarthy was a life long republican and a champion of the party's far right.

The irony of the McCarthy phenomenon, as recent studies of American communism have made abundantly clear, is that Joe McCarthy burst into national prominence with charges about spies and fifth columnists at the very moment when the threat of internal subversion in the executive branch was on the wane, if not entirely extinguished. It would take President, Dwight Eisenhower, to convince the country of this fact. And as we have seen, given McCarthy's continued insistence that "reds," "pinks," and fellow travelers were compromising American national security, it was no simple task. Today, many far right republicans still see McCarty as a hero.

McCarthy was made chairman of a sub-committee when republicans gained a slight majority in 1953 but Truman was still president. The outrageous claim that McCarthy "burst into national prominence" is an example of the media that had become the propaganda arm of the democrat party at the time. Of course a senator had no connection to a House committee but the fact that the myth persists today that he was connected to HUAC is an example of the power of the left wing press. Hollywood initially came out in favor of HUAC with a movie starring John Wayne and James Arness. The U.S. government had only subpoena power but had no power to blacklist anyone but when Hollywood decided to fire it's own writers who were to be suspected communists because they thought they might lose money they couldn't blame democrats or Truman so with the cooperation of the media, McCarthy was the likely target and it worked.